New details on the Xbox Scorpio, internally known as the Xbox One-Two

New details on the Xbox Scorpio, internally known as the Xbox One-Two

polygon.com/2016/5/25/11774294/xbox-one-slim-one-two-scorpio

technewstoday.com/29895-xbox-one-scorpio-and-xbox-slim-vs-playstation-4k-neo/


Looks like the new Xbox One iteration will have Oculus Rift support and push up to 6 TFlops and run all existing Xbox One software. Which obviously means this isn't an all together new console, just a hardware upgrade, albeit a massive unprecedented one. 360 compatibility would naturally still work the same. One major developer is already working on an Xbox VR game. A redesigned controller is also in the works. Naturally 4k support is planned. This box will be available Fall 2017.

The question now is, how in gods name do they make it retail for less than 800 dollars!?

I should've bought a PS4

>Inb4 sidelined by both sony and microsoft shills saying I'm either a stupid loser cuck or a lying sony viral marketer

>The question now is, how in gods name do they make it retail for less than 800 dollars!?
Selling at loss. Making the loss back with Live Gold subscriptions and game licensing.

>I should've bought a PC
Fixed.

You shouldve bought the astoundingly weaker console?

This isnt a 900p/1080p difference, this is a 4k and 1080p difference.

Also, the gap between release of the X1 and the X1-2 is gonna be 4 years. That's exactly the same time span as the gap between the original xbox and the 360. How is this a problem?

>tfw Xbox is coming back, and Sony better fucking prepare for the hellfire coming its way.

>Xbox One-Two
that nintendo tier naming.

HAHAHAHA

Good fucking God, a goddamn GTX 1070 gets near 6.5 TFlops. This thing would be plenty powerful enough to run full on Oculus Rift software easily AND keep that bloated UI they wanted so bad.

Your comment makes no sense, but I'm assuming you mean how the Scorpio is going to be more powerful than the neo. Because the original consoles weren't close.

I'll probably get it. I just actually like the Xbone, but it's weak as fuck. I have a PS4 too so no consolewar shit pls. The thing is, won't it be like 800 bucks? That's just not justifiable, really.

Now if only it had some games, already fell for the PS4 meme, 2016 is already half over and still nothing to show for it.

im just watching this console generation push the envelope for finding new ways to fuck consumers.

jesus christ

Don't lie on the internet. End of the year ps4 will have way more games than xbone

>and push up to 6 TFlops
Kek

The original xbox packed A LOT of exclusives and innovations into those four years than the Xbox One did.
That's the issue here. The Xbox One has basically become the cheapo 3rd party console. The Original Xbox was pretty competitive for it's time.

>still nothing to show for it
>End of the year
And sonyggers of Sup Forums would have told you back in 2015 that these game would have already been out.

I've thought about this too and there's absolutely no way they commit the exact same mistake TWICE in a row just a few short years since it alienated most of their fanbase. No way they release this thing with a retail price of more than $450 and work with Gamestop to push generous trade in deals to get the price down to 300.

>he think companies only have access to the same products as normie customers like him.
fun fact : the 1080 1070 is already obsolete in their labs, they already have not only the nex model ready, but the models after in test/prototype too.

This is good Sup Forums (even though you're having to post Polygon to get to it).

As to how they're going to keep the price down, sell at a loss + a full year of manufacturing costs falling. Reminder that anything and everything M$ does these days is to get Windows 10 into your house for dem sweet ad dollars.

>The question now is, how in gods name do they make it retail for less than 800 dollars!?
Dunno. They've got a big chunk of edram that takes up a lot of space and now they're adding an additional 4TF of power, that can't be a small chip at all. Probably 500mm2, which would put it in gtx1080 range. Not to mention wattage. These can't just be shrinks either or they'll overheat. It just sounds like a really expensive setup. Sony's in the same boat too to be honest just less so.

THIS JUST IN

THE NINTENDO WII-2

Did M$ change their mind on making all Xbox one games available on PC? If they haven't then would their be any point in buying this if I already own a PC and PS4?

Visual Representation

Notice that their "target" is 6 tflops. Not set in stone so it might not reach that per say but I don't believe they'll fall short of 5.

>People not understanding AMD is partnering with M$ so they'll get tasty deal
>Forgetting we have no idea what AMD and polaris are up to
>Forgetting M$ just made the most powerful laptop to date the surface with AMD
There's still an entire year and a half to go, it's perfectly possible. And M$ will gladly take a loss to get back at Sony, they can afford to, Sony can't.

>And M$ will gladly take a loss to get back at Sony, they can afford to, Sony can't.
I think this is the biggest factor. Plus 1 1/2 years it a lot of time to figure out how to make a 6tf console possible. They wouldn't target it unless they knew they could hit the mark reasonably.

None, Project Helix is in full swing and they plan to merge Windows and Xbox.This is a step toward making the Xbox as capable as any given PC for a couple years. That way they can share software between Windows and Xbox.

Same concept as a "Steambox" really. They're not nearly as dense as everyone thinks they are so it's not going to make the same price mistakes as these boxes. They'll sell at a loss to regain market share.

This is clearly for those that don't have a PC powerful enough to play games, which are more than you imagine.
If you have a PC already, you are not their main target.

I am glad I waited to buy either a PS4 or a Bone but I fear Scorpio vs Neo will be a harder choice than before.

>not buying the only platform in the world that has a game so good there'll be nothing on its level for another 60 years or more
just get a ps4 now to support sony and upgrade to neo when it comes out, my man.

>boner finally has enough exclusives to warrant actually purchasing it
>now all this news coming out

what to do

Jesus Christ, the gap between the PS4 and X1 was treated as gargantuan but the Scorpio is ABSURDLY more powerful than Neo. Talk about overkill. Hot damn. Make this thing cost less than what it costs for a comparable pc and I'm in.

And what game is that supposed to be?

>PS4 and Xbone already getting significant upgrades
>tfw decided to wait out this gen
Truly the only winning move is to not play.

Scorpio will still play all those games aswell as BC titles

Just wait, theres a Slim Xbox One coming out this fall thats allegedly the smallest console they've ever made. If you want the beef then wait for the Xbox One-2. It's still an Xbox one...but a fucking steroid version of it.

Scorpio will most likely play all Bone's games via BC.

Rumors like this are always funny. People act like the other side is gonna sit back and do nothing.

Driveclub.

>the year of the PC killer

That mockup looks familiar

Sony is too focused on burning money on VR tech rather than making a significant upgrade.

Sony already showed their hand, unlike 3 years ago. Their new iteration is due out this fall and rated at 4.14 TFlops with 4k support. MS planned accordingly and their iteration isn't due out until a year later but with ridiculous hardware.

Show's over, everyone go home.

>Xbox One-Two
Cha-Cha-Cha

would getting one now would be a bad idea then? i have a wii u and a ps4 as well, if its really worth waiting for the xbox 1.5 then i can

>$600
Wew

have you purposefully ignored game media the last month? uncharted 4.

Wait for E3.

Then wait for the hardware and software to actually come out. Remember people bought a PS4 after last years E3, now tell me how they are enjoying The Last Guardian, Shenmue 3, and Final Fantasy 7 remake? Oh yea. Announcements are great, but wait for them to actually come out first before making the plunge.

PSfags only started to care about power. 64 was arguably more powerful to ps1, GC was 50% more powerful, and Xbox twice as powerful as PS2, 360 was more powerful/easier to develop for/cheaper to the PS3. I mean PS4 is probably the best console of this gen, but still power means nothing.

>internally known as the Xbox One-Two

I hope they keep the name "Scorpio". It's rad.

OP here, I just found that picture at random. They have no official design yet. That was not released by MS. Sorry for the confusion.

NOOOOO
NOOOOOOOOOOO
DELETE THIS!!!!

>One major developer is already working on an Xbox VR game.
People say this like it means something.

Yep, wait.

I honestly can't think of original xbox exclusives other than voodoo vince and that shitty rare game about ghosts.

thats why ive waited as long as i have to purchase one. i was waiting for about 5 exclusives to come out that id want to play which has happened, so now its either i nab a bone right now or wait for the new one

ill most likely end up doing this unless i can find one for extremely cheap somewhere

Kek it's like the 90's are repeating themselves with Genesis/Megadrive add-ons which were a failure

M$ has infinite money they can sell at a loss

E3 listings already have an Xbox VR category with Oculus devs attached...

This thing is gonna have built in Rift support and with that much power probably access to all of it's games as well.

Can't wait untill all this upgrading bullshit is done so i can buy the system second hand at the end of it's life cycle when all the good shit has come out.

This is fucking bullshit.
I own both an Xbox One and a PS4 and both and coming out with stronger versions.
Fucking Bullshit!

The PS4 is the best console this gen.

No way Microsoft's shareholders are going to approve the company selling xbox 1.2 at a loss.

So enjoy your $1299 gaming console

>Buying both next-gen consoles

what is wrong with you?

t sonycuck

>I own both an Xbox One and a PS4 and both and coming out with stronger versions.
are you new to consumer technology

we're witnessing the death of consoles

sell your consoles quick.

Not my cup of tea, sorry. Ratchet and Clank is actually more apoealing to me, in the same way Rare Replay is.

Uh for consoles exclusives, fucking retard.

Not him but the original Xbox paved the way for online console gaming. With Halo and Halo 2 plus your Tom Clancy games. It was an innovator.

It is though.

The Dreamcast did it first.

Phil will do do the miracle.
He will bring Xbox back to the Xbox huge and first 360 years.

>x360 bc
>win10 games
>much more powerful than Neo
Sony is finished

If we want to be completely honest, the SNES did it first. But the Xbox was the first one with a REAL online infrastructure, Live.

6 TFlops is still only on par with a 2.something year old 290x. Plus Raw FLOPS =/= gaming performance (though admittedly consoles tend to make it more of a reality).

On paper a 390x (which an overclocked 290x) is on parwith a 980ti but generally the 980ti is two whole tiers of performance above. Pic semi-related, one of those DX12 games that does rely heavily on compute power.

The Mega Drive

And it was shit.

That's how this kinda thing works. If you try and fail, then no one cares. Xbox Live was revolutionary. Ever wonder why Sony followed suit with the same sort of features? Because they would have been silly not to. PS2 online wasn't a cohesive service, it just varied by game. Xbox Live was an innovation.

Wasn't there a university mmo thing that you played online? does that count?

I don't think that, but I do think that they can't afford to put equivalents to those cards on consoles and keep them at 400$ pricetag
PS4 and Xbone had low-mid 2012 hardware and they'll put low-mid 2016 hardware on the new ones

Its not like consolefags need anymore to think they're getting the best

He's right, even tought the PS4 is a mediocre console, its the best one considering the alternatives so far

Add to that the possible Original Xbox BC.

Nah,as of now both are equal,especially review wise on their exclusives. Sony just has more indie filler bullshit and shovel ware weaboo shit than Xbox to pad its games line up.

I have both systems,only play SFV on PS4 right now. Playing Overwatch on Xbox,but all in all both are shit as of now. Matter of fact,this gen has been shit its entirety so far.

The Mega Drive did it first*

Sega beat Nintendo to it

I was just shitposting. But I'm glad you committed this post to this garbage thread, really I am.

I'm this guy's father, I work at Microsoft and I can confirm this. The Xbox Two will be the true next gen gaming platform.

So in 2017 M$ has to deal with

A) Fragmenting the xbone install with a new $999 console for VR gaming

B) Cancelling Windows Phone and writing off the $50+ billion dollar investment into it

C) Losing to Linux in the server market

D) Admitting Win10 is an abysmall failure

I think 2017 might be the last year M$ is in business

Yeah, point is, there were experiments before the Xbox. But the OG Xbox was the first one to did it in a proper way.

> We will not publish xbox1.5
> Go full ballistic with xbox 2

This generation is fucked up

>and it was shit
What the fuck are you talking about?
PSO was god tier. It innovated far more than that piece of shit Xbox did.
The Dreamcast version of Quake has fucking crossplay with the PC, it's amazing.

Nobody with a brain is pretending the Scorpio will kill PC in this thread, you turbocunt.
For a console is still a good step.

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>Fragmenting the xbone install with a new $999 console for VR gaming
Doesn't that apply to the PS4 too though?

40% vs 44%
wow so much bigger

but the PSVR is getting games

i'm so sorry for your parents

Thanks for the info m8, but tell your wife's son to never post as if he was you again

M$ has near unlimited funds

Where were you when sonyggers get their anal blasted?