Immersive world

>Immersive world
>Best Gun play of the series
>Could Build your own base
>Made by Bethesda
>God tier character creator
Is hating Fallout 4 LITERALLY just a meme?

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maybe? I enjoyed it and dont see why its so bad.

t. John Smith

>immersive world
Eh, not so much.
>God tier character creator
Yeah because eventually mastering everything is a good system.

It was very different then fallout 3 and thats why so many people hated it. Though fallout 4 was extremely terrific in a different way then fallout 3 was, people were waiting years for another game like fallout 3 and raged when they didn't get it. Fallout 4 was terrific though.

I want summer to leave

The plot was shit and way too linear to even bother with multiple playthroughs.

>>Immersive world
Falls flat on its face, considering Stalker and Metro pulverize it in that case.

>>Best Gun play of the series
It was fucking horrible in the previous games. Going from rock bottom to average isn't something to be proud of.

>>Could Build your own base
Only after copypasting the idea from NV modders.

>>Made by Bethesda
So fucking what?

>God tier character creator
Not enough options, Black Desert rapes it in that case. Not god-tier at all.

The story was shitty, the optimization is horrible, the companions are bland and fucking worthless, the graphics are meh.

No, not just a meme. But I like the mods.

>Immersive world
Not really. Better than 3 but not much.
>Could build your own base
Which means jack shit because raiders still come and abduct someone somehow
>Made by Bethesda
Now I know you're baiting
>God tier character creator
I'll give you that shame all your cool looking character can so is be nice, dick, sarcastic dick or walk away till you're ready to do one of the three choices.

>listing just pros
>ignoring all cons

>Immersive world
It was shit compared to New Vegas.

>Made by Bethesda
Your bait would be less obvious if you got rid of this.

It's not the worst game ever but it's not even anywhere near as good as FO3 or New Vegas.

>meme-ing this hard

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Started playing today.
Mate gave me his old GPU so I've been catching up on PC games that my toaster couldn't run.

I'm 30~ minutes into FO4 and already have power armour, laser rifle, minigun and a companion.
Kinda bored of it already to be honest. None of my open quests are interesting.

The only thing on your list that is correct is the gunplay being the best in the series. And that isn't saying much.

shhhh, Todd is sleeping

>literally just criticizing the game
>somehow memes

You could max out everything in 3 and NV too, and at a much faster pace

The building system was sort of shitty. Couldn't line up junk walls and everything had to be level.

WAKE UP YOU LYING SACK OF SHIT

World isn't that immersive desu. Dialogue is way too bad to be immersive, characters are still stiff as boards and the writing is unnatural. It looks good, though.

Gunplay feels good but it simplified.

Pointless back-of-the-box feature that doesn't interact with the rest of the game well

Use the mat trick

You were that kid in class that would argue with the teacher after getting an answer completely wrong. You're that annoying cunt.

>god tier character creator
Yeah, my favorite part is when I make a fat psycho raider or a grizzled old veteran and they always sound like a young average man and are always a perfectly balanced extremely loving father.

>liking fallout 4

>Immersive world
One of the worst I recently played. Shit doesn't make any sense.

>No roleplay elements
>forced voice acting
>choices didn't matter, everything led to the same result
>got rid of skill points in favor or perk system
>progression is based around randomized loot and "deal 20% more damage with this weapon type"
>junk is meaningful but the encumbrance is too limiting
>writing sucks
>characters for the most part suck
>lack of decent sidequests
>paid and restricted mods (no more lewd mods)

It's literally 1 step forward in terms of some gameplay mechanics, and 3 steps back in terms of everything else.

If you told me Elder Scrolls 6 will be heavily melee focused with forced voice acting and heavy crafting focus, I would believe you. Fallout 4 is closer to an open world FPS than it is to an actual RPG.

i'm digging this new meme desu

>Wah stop Fallout 4 is fun!

Okay doesn't mean I can't call it shit.

Empty desert with a few cluttered shacks really was interesting yep. Two fucking dry lakes with nothing in them taking up half the map also cool.

>judging a game based on mods

I didn't like it in NV either. The only plus that came out of it was stat requirements were placed back in.

JUST BUY

It's how you take mods into account when you have to judge gamebryo games. They are so barebones and broken at launch, you need mods to fix them.

its good

The small weapon pool really killed the game for me

It feels like you have to skip the gunsmith perks if you want any sense of reward from finding weapons at all because you just find a short barrel hunting rifle 8% of the way through the gang and slowly convert it into a huge 50 cal with tacticool shit all over it

Like the random scattering of houses and intact suits of power armor just sitting in the open was any better.

been waiting nearly a year to post this, finally it is appropriate.

>not being able to tell the difference between summer and the kind of bait we get all year round

>paid and restricted mods (no more lewd mods)

wait what? are they really pursuing this?

>Could Build your own base

More like "heres some clunkly editing tools could you finish this game off for us because we can't be bothered"

>fences literally float in the air and don't clip to ground properly

Am like how in Fallout 4 the ending actually matters. In New Vegas it doesn't matter who you side with because the game's over, and FO3 is just LOL.

In 4 if you side with the railroad there will be Railroad Patrols fighting enemies that you can interact with and help and then the radiant quests at taking down remaining coursers and remaining synths.

NV really need edbroken steel like DLC that extends the ending because the ending sucked. If you take over New Vegas for yourself you can't do anything if you side with Caesar you don't get to see the strip populated by Caesar's Legion. All the faction choices and endings are pretty much pointless

Plus your ending carries over into far Harbor and gives you new options which is cool

it may be the best of the series, but its still shit, the game is only good when mods are taken into consideration.

Without mods, ANY bethesda fallout and tes would be shit

The signs are all there user.

>they released a statement saying how disgusted they were with the lewd mods on Skyim/Fallouts/Oblivion

>release of Bethesda.net platform

>inevitable the only place you can download FO4 mods is through Bethesda.net

>tried pushing paid mods again

>said they were going to pursue paid mods again in the future

>If everything is released through bethesda.net, that gives them full control over what can and cant be downloaded to PC and console owners

I don't see the appeal of mods, then again I'm not one of those people who wants an anime waifu or My Little Pony companion in the game.

>Legitimate arguments are now memeing

>I don't see the appeal of mods

FO4's world is all presentation but with no depth

So guys, did you like Fallout 4? Pick one of the following:
1. Yeah, it was great! GOTYAY
2. Absolutely amazing, 10/10
3. Dude, it was totally RAD
4. I'll tell you it was amazing later

It didn't do the things that made me enjoy 3 and NV.

What I got was a Boston with no thought put into it. Even FO3 kept the super mutants vs the Brotherhood warzone far from where most people lived. FO3 at least had thought put into where shit was and the things happening around it. NV did an even better job of making a cohesive world.

4 has two towns completely surrounded by a chaotic warzone of shit just placed there for little to no reason. 4 was such a lazy disaster.

No skills. Very few interesting characters. Awful story. No good unique gear, just lame random drops from "Legendary" enemies. I could keep going but fuck that.

I just wish I had my $60 back.

This picture only covers the shitty plot and dialogue wheel. It doesn't even get into stuff like the Shit graphics.

That's a pretty narrow view of what you consider a mod.

Look up anything regarding gameplay overhauls, new weapons, sidequests, factions, gameplay mechanics, worlds/areas etc.

Mods are a great way for amateurs to learn a skill set and release their stuff for free while greatly extending the life of a game. It's a win/win, and a lot of time if the mod is good enough people will buy the game just to play the mods. I know this is bait

You know what is more interesting? Huge, multi layered motorways with nothing in them. Or houses with nothing interesting inside. After some time simple coming across raiders on those fucking motorways seem like a fucking party.

Its a good casual game to play once in a while. It's not a good Fallout game but that doesn't make it a bad game in general. I personally enjoyed it.

Unless they patch in a complete rehaul to how their games work there's no way they could keep other people from making mods and hosting them elsewhere.

>Immersive world
Done better with FN:V mods.
>Best gun play of the series
Done better with FN:V mods, including Matrix lol.
>Could build your own base.
Again, done better with FN:V mods.
>Made by Bethesda
Oh look! Another huge world to explore filled with nothing, how exciting...
>God Tier Character creator.
You can LITERALLY create anyone on the planet with the right mods in FN:V.

Looking up mod showcases on YouTube just show me things like turning Danse into Buzz Lightyear, giving the girls Triple H busts, adding copyrighted materials like lightsabers and other stupid shit, and the occasional one where someone tries to voice their own character but it sounds like a really bad squeaky teenager

Seeing as how the RPG options seemingly went down the shitter with 4.
Can I at least play it as a Stalker-ish survival game? The casualization has really kept me from buying and playing it.

The fact that base controls are so fucking console friendly annoys me se fucking much. I have a mouse that is a better and more precise controller, but I still need to use that handicapped way of building all houses and other things.

Welcome to Sup Forums sweety :3

>done better with mods

Base New Vegas game confirmed for shit

Has anyone at bethesda played the game and sat through the ordeal that is scrolling through an ever lengthening Misc tab for notes/audiologs that you pick up but can't simply read immediately?

New quests and factions seemed pointless if they're non-canon

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>gunplay
console kid go home

>Falls flat on its face, considering Stalker and Metro pulverize it in that case.

Subjective

>Best Gun play of the series
It was fucking horrible in the previous games. Going from rock bottom to average isn't something to be proud of.

Improving the gameplay mechanics isn't something to be proud of? ok

>Only after copypasting the idea from NV modders.
Shitty logic.. you can use the same logic with any game that will ever come out.

>Not enough options, Black Desert rapes it in that case. Not god-tier at all.

Subjective, but you can say all games character creator sucks cock compared to black desert.

Getting to the ending is shit. In NV you get to start over and play a good game again with 4 DLC worth playing.

In FO4 you have to replay a bad game again in almost the exact same way because nothing you really do matters. The only divergence is which shitty faction do you get to do their full quest log with. Which is okay in theory but bad considering none of the perks matter, there is nothing to see. It's just killing enemies and collecting just held together with awful characters and shitty writing.

not defending it but you know, mods will be a thing for F4 too?

This is a horrible fallout game but a descent shooter with "rpg" mechanics.

the story is retardedly bad

I swear to fucking god the Bioshock Infinite fans and the FO4 fans are the same retarded faggots.

Mods are already dead for F4 though, Skyrim has the best Sexmods and Fallout NV is vastly superior with the script extensions it's made recently.

Modders can't fix bad quests.

5. I pirated it

I completely agree with you except the optimization.

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Why do you guys hate Fallout 4?
There are billions, LITERALLY BILLIONS of places you can explore. It will take you 400 YEARS to explore all the places.

You can do ANYTHING you want in Fallout 4
ANYTHING

>Get made the leader of the Institute
>Oh sweet now I can make peace with the brotherhood and the railroad and find some sort of compromise, at least with one of them
>NO YOU HAVE TO KILL THEM ALL
Fuck you, Bethesda

You have to admit it's a pretty terrible game though.

>wah wah muh story ;_;
>BETHESDA SUX

if it was any other game, LITERALLY
>wah wah muh gameplay ;_;
>STORY DOESNT MATTER
>GAMEPLAY SUX

fucking hypocrites, all of you

Bethesda will never be able to stop modding, because they'll never be able to stop using the fucking Morrowind engine

I like this No Man's Sky maymay

What does that have anything to do with the things NV mods fix?

You and I both know sex mods will be a thing for F4, thats all I got it for anyways.

The real reason why that shit didn't start off for F3 and NV is because why would you even bother

>You can LITERALLY create anyone on the planet with the right mods in FN:V.

Nah, this is one thing FO4 has over NV. You can't even get rid of the neck seam in NV.

>Sup Forums is only you and me
Stop shitposting so much and fuck off with the overwatch threads.

fuck you retard delete this

>switching the before and after pics

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>Remove role playing
>Shit writing

HATE BABY

If you say that Fallout 4 with its cartoon mutants and inbred raiders has more immersion than Stalker - which has a much more realistic approach - or Metro, then you're a moron.

>improving on gameplay isn't something to be proud of?
If you have something near-unplayable in the 3rd game, and un-fuck your shit to a passable, average by today's standards experience in the 4th game, then yes, you should NOT be proud of yourself, because you fucked up and the fact stays.

>shitty logic
Except they literally copypasted the motherfucking feature from a motherfucking mod to their previous motherfucking game into their latest motherfucking game, motherfucker.

>you can say all games character creator sucks cock compared to black desert
Except nobody claims them to be god-tier.
The claim that FO4's character creation is god-tier is a lie and you know it.
But before anything - yes, Black Desert makes other games' creation systems suck monkey cock.

Try again, faggot.

what does me, defending fallout 4, and exposing your bullshit have anything to do with overwatch?

are you baiting me to talk about your stupid game you FUCKING MARKETEER?

how about YOU get the fuck out REEEEEE

the 60% of the currents mods for FO4 are basically lewd mods, 30% are just overhauls, and the rest are just LOL SO RANDOM XD mods, nothing really serious atm

Its really going the way Skyrim went, its going to be a titty fest, loverslab is going to have a field day when the GECK its fully implemented.

Personally, I don't have nothing against that, but fuck me, the game really need some serious mods, not just waifubait

Why did the institute create and release super mutants?

Why can't you call anyone in the institute out on it?

>want to play NV
>already completed it 5 times and explored everything

The missile launcher is the only RPG element in the game

they were experimenting on them, trying to come up with a fucking cure you fucking retard

dumb frogposter

They didn't create them.
They captured them and anal probed them.