>beat DOOM
>fuck that was great, I wish there was more
>played some of Doom, Doom 2 and Doom 64 but don't remember every beating them
>feel like trying out Final Doom on a whim
>TNT here we go
>I ain't no pussy Ultra Violence here we go
>my anus is bleeding
Heavy Weapon Guys are bullshit. I've been stuck on e1m3 for like an hour now.
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give this wad a try
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oh and btw, according to DOOM its canon
Uh yeah thanks I guess.
How is this on Youtube?
>TNT
As someone who just recently replayed it, It's not worth it.
its generally seen as the worst doom, and with very good reason.
The first 10 levels are the only levels worth playing if at all, the rest is just horribly designed bullshit that will just piss you off.
if you really want to tear your asshole apart with some really good .wads, I heavily recommend you try out Alien vendetta, and hell revealed 2 if you haven't already. The later levels are complete bullshit but it's a slaughterfest of the best kind
Because YouTube doesn't care about what's on their platform unless a wealthy corporate entity copyright claims something for shits and giggles.
final doom is supposed to be harder and there are far harder megawads anyway
Sometimes I wonder if I played the DOOM series in the wrong order.
>Play DOOM 1 shareware in childhood on Windows 95.
>Much later in life, play doom on Xbox Live Arcade.
>Play the fucking SHIT out of that game. Every fucking day. For months. And have it be my occasional go-to game for years.
>Fast forward 7 years, play DOOM II on DOSbox.
>Quit after a few hours of play, even though I enjoyed it.
>Two years later, play and beat DOOM 3 and its expansion.
>Play DOOM 4 beta for half an hour and get bored.
>Still haven't played DOOM II like I should have.
Should I just skip to Plutonia?
Yeah this is TOO hard.
I mean, I remember Revenants being hard but fighting them at point blank range is nearly impossible here. There's nothing to hide behind to throw the rockets off and they home like a fucking bitch.
Yes, skip tnt. Plutonia is pretty good but the layout can be pretty confusing at times if you aren't into the habit of using the automap
plutonia is harder than TNT just stick with it
>Still haven't played DOOM II like I should have
You should go do that then
>I remember Revenants being hard but fighting them at point blank range is nearly impossible here
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This is a good start.
You don't really need a lot of cover to fight Revenants in general, you need room for sure though.
TNT is kind of lame.
Plutonia is a lot harder.
TNT is just "i place minigunner", play plutonia instead, it is better designed even though there is still lots of minigunners
Plutonia is fucking garbage.
Bruv, most of your Doom experience was with a controller on an unmoddable platform, you have been missing out bigtime. Yes, you should play Doom2, but you should also play Doom 1. The real Doom 1.
And a whole wide world of third party maps await, too. Go 2 it.
>tnt: minigunners
>plutonia: minigunners + revenents
neither are worth playing. Final Doom is bad. There's a million wads out there that are much better.
THERES A FUCKING ARCHVILE IN THE FIRST LEVEL
IS THIS CORRECT
DID I GET THE WRONG .WAD OR SOMETHING
THIS IS PLUTONIA'S E1M1???
Plutonia is made to be hard.
If you did Doom 1 you should have done E4, which is like the Lost Levels of Doom.
You can think of Plutonia as the same deal.
AND THEN I WALK RIGHT AND THERE'S FOUR REVENANTS OH FUCK I DIDNT EVEN SCREENSHOT THAT SHIT
see"plutonia is good" Sup Forums's doom fanbase equivalent to Deus Ex's "put all points into swimming"
I jumped for the teleporter and I "made" it but I don't think Plutonia is right for me.
What are some good .wads and not, y'know, fucking bullshit hard with no sense of scaling?
It's not though user.
That would be trying to get someone to play a Terry wad.
Plutonia is just kind of eh with level design and is only worth playing if you like challenge.
Play Scythe.
It's a great level set.
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Doom 1, episodes 1-3
That's about it. Episode 4 is awful. doom 2 is awful. Final doom is awful.
Plutonia is more popular among Doomworld than Sup Forums.
That said, I really think its nowhere near as hard as people make it out to be.
>Jumped
user no
That breaks level sets.
How am I supposed to kill them.
use chaingun
You can chaingun tap(Two shots with 100% accuracy)
You can come back later when you get a rocket launcher
You can wait until you are closer.
You have options
I've played some modded DOOM 1 and WADs before, just haven't done it very much.
Play Scythe. It's a megawad with an emphasis on small but very active and challenging levels. If you like it, check out Scythe 2.
What are some good wads that change the gameplay around, have only done Demonsteele and Trailblazer. No Brutal Doom pls
Play Memento Mori
GMOTA
Project MSX
None of them are good, IMO. They almost never take map balance into account. So they usually end up just being a power fantasy that gets boring after an hour.
Mommy pls
So yeah, think I'll try out Scythe now because I'm tired of being sodomized by Revenants with no fucking place to dodge them from.
I thought I was the only one who felt this way about them. Stuff like Demonsteele and Metroid: Dreadnought are neat but get old after a few minutes.
>Demonsteele
Pick a higher difficulty than UV.
It's the only way. 2 HP is basically the baseline.
>Metroid
You can set up limits to not get a lot of HP and due to lack of armor you can have a good time with harder level sets.
>Trailblazer
Literally made for slaughtermaps only and trivializes them.
Not as bad as how Guncaster does it though.
I like the effort put into making everything, but with how overpowered everything is it's hard to really get invested in anything like that.
Weapons of Saturn is pretty cool. SUAB is different but pretty cool.
Just a simple changes of animations makes the whole thing feel different.
Project MSX is fun, and you can find recommended/new wads for it on its page
Or play something like Winter's Fury.
I put Scythe in the directory and the text file in the license folder but it doesn't show up on the list when I start zdoom.
What am I missing/doing wrong/ignorant of?
click and drag it onto the zdoom exe. I'm not completely sure about all things doom modding, but that should work for that. It might ask you to open a different wad, just pick Doom 2 and it should still boot Scythe.
Wait yeah I got it.
Is it supposed to look all red?
Fuck TNT.
if you mean the main menu, yes.
Reelism, DoomRL Arsenal + Oblige megawad.
Demonsteele is really something that wants its own custom-designed wads. Leaping around all over the place is fun as fuck, but its rare to find levels that really facilitate doing that to its maximum potential.
you get a rocket launcher in the first map. Just use it there
>revenants
if possible, get into melee range, make 'em whiff punches (kind of tricky, since if you fuck up, a: they punch just as hard as a missile and b: if you go slightly outside of melee range, they'll hit you with a missile at minimum range)
in short, watch the video linked
Revenant missiles are scary. There's nothing quite as dumb as running down several 90 degree turns, finally thinking you're safe, and then suddenly getting hit for 60% damage because it was still following you.
happened when testing a wad I was making
>339336747
>beat DOOM
>fuck that was great, I wish there was more
NO MORE FOR YOU
FUCK YOU
WE REMOVED ANY AND ALL MOD SUPPORT
LOL SNAPMAP
DLC SOON
FUCK YOU MODDERS
I know this is one of the maps from Going Down but what sprite/graphics mod are you using?
Beautiful Doom.
I wanted something with a bit more zip and it works pretty well. Doesn't change anything mechanically, just looks better.
I started playing Thy Flesh Consumed earlier, that second level was pretty tough. But over all it's kinda just felt like Doom 2 without all the enemies
>he did not build scuba diver character to get the secret atlantis ending
user, how can you be so bad at video games?
I'm always amazed at how shitty 4chans doom players are. Tnt is fucking easy. Plutonia is harder but even that's not anywhere near the kinds of megawads the fans have made now.
From the command-line: doom2 -file scythe.wad
Substitute 'doom2' with whatever engine you use. (Though you should have been playing vanilla, m8.)
You think this fag is gonna be able to play av or hr2 if he can't even fucking play tnt?
Personally I prefer Smooth Doom.
What are some good Hexen/Heretic .wads?
user, there are really great user maps out there build with SnapMap™
just take a short look at this gem:
M8, I don't know about you but I wasn't born a Doom god. When Final Doom first came out I found it hard. OP is just discovering Doom, it'd be bloody amazing if he could just waltz through Plutonia on skill 4.
motherfucking contra doom in nightmare difficulty enable chasecam for better chances of survival
Multiplayer DLC no less, for a multi that's probably dead by now.
I really don't get that shit, the tomb raider reboot had the same shit, people begging for single player DLC maps and NOPE YOU MULTIPLAYER DLC which died in like 2 weeks.
It does change things.
The Chaingun and super shotgun having single fire.
Unless it was updated and removed these changes?
I use Smooth Doom personally for those animated N64 shotguns.
Every time
I'd argue that while doom 2 added great new monsters and the SSG, the maps dont hold up to Doom
Hey guys, I've been meaning to play Doom II. I beat the original a couple years ago.
Which source port should I use? I've been thinking ZDoom or Chocolate Doom.
I like brutal doom.
GMOTA feels somewhat balanced, that's why it's my favourite of the bunch.
I played through both plutonia and tnt keyboard only on uv when I was about 15. They were fine. You don't have to be a doom God not to find them hard, you just have to be a non retard
Good. You're retarded
Chocolate Doom for the closest to vanilla experience.
>I use Smooth Doom personally for those animated N64 shotguns.
My Smooth Doom keeps fucking up when I use the N64 weapons. I forgot the error it says but it doesn't work in ZDoom.
Just play the new Doom. I hear its really good.
Try with GZDoom and remember to have the latest SVN versions of your source ports.
>doom
>good
lmao. shitty graphics, literal autoaim, retarded level design
maybe it was good in the 80s but liking it now is just a meme
>according to DOOM it's canon
What
The only autoaim in Doom is vertical.
holy shit. how do you fuck up this badly? what is even the point?
>E4M1 on Ultra-Violence
Trouble with being sarcastic or facetious, no-one can tell; the retards then start spouting it as gospel.
plutonia is good but it's hard
Every time
>tfw it took you an hour to beat E4M2 on UV
Sadly after E4M3 the rest of the levels weren't so bad
get your ass ready for the megawads made by the community
>ancient ayylmaos' map05
i'm probably playing like shit but dear god the ammo is scarce
...
you'll need to get good at doom first
Is the Hell on Earth starterpack for Brutal Doom any good?
but it's so fucking good though, these maps are so sexy they make me feel bad for even trying to map myself.
it should be much easier to play fps on pc than console because of mouse precision. are you new to playing with a mouse or something?
Any good level sets for coop with my friend
Doom is great, but when you're ready to graduate beyond childs-play, try Descent.
descent is kind of forgotten and underrated
you can't get it anymore because interplay jewing the original creators
this is all you need for the first 2 games v
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It's pretty good.
So far Doom 2 w/ brutal doom has been my favorite of the total remakes.
Best game.
I don't think you get it, what I'm saying.
My reaction time is bad, sup par by far, almost a quarter of a second slower than the average.
Which in turn makes it harder to hit things especially if they're moving fast or if I'm moving fast. On console I've got the auto aim and everything slow so because I try hard I can generally stomp console plebs.
On PC people try just as hard as me, many try a lot harder, and have much better reaction times as well. So I can't compete. Even on console if it's something like Street Fighter or Smash, I can't compete.
Even in singleplayer stuff fast movement throws me off, because again, my reaction time is beyond awful. In turn, I'm awful at anything fast paced, very much including Doom.
>no sense of scaling
what are you talking about? it only gets harder from there. plutonia is the only mapset that even makes use of the new super shotgun and enemies introduced in 2.
this is great
no effective means to dodge homing missiles
chaingunners are worse than karl marx
Thank you for posting those links, user. Everyone should seriously try Descent if they haven't already. There's even still a relatively active multiplayer scene.
Wasn't there some redux of descent released recently? Or maybe it was some stupid steam beta thing?