So what the fuck ever happened to the VR craze that was buzzing around last year? the end result of it was "don't buy rift, buy the vive, it's way better." yet even with that decided, ultimately I never hear a peep about VR gaming or anything, was this a complete waste of hype and a shit gimmick as many expected? 100% not worth the price tag? (what the fuck is it like 700 bucks?)
I honestly was looking forward to the "next" big thing, but seems this wasn't it?
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Got my Vive a few days ago, it is fucking amazing. I would say you haven't heard much because most of the games coming out are small experimental sandbox ones. Thus far the only "big" release is Budget Cuts, and that is still Pre Alpha.
>want to play shit like Skyrim with this
>need a fucking 40 dollar driver ontop of the already 800$ device
Yeah fuck that. VR is literally made to suck your money, call me when someone has a legit torrent of VorpX.
870 bucks with tax and shipping for most places in the US. can take from days to months apparently to receive one after placing a purchase. my bank kept declining the purchase even after i made an authorization for the exact amount, and i hear similar stories from everyone else. had to transfer money to paypal and that took four days.
after all that, you need a good videocard, cpu, and anyone who's upgrading even might need a new PSU. or if they're on an older socket not supported anymore, a new mobo.
even after all that, there's not a ton of great games yet, though there are a few worth experiencing. most of these games are overpriced for what they are, but not all.
for the vive, you can play games seated, but plenty of them require walking around and shit, so you need like a minimum of 6ft x 5.5 space, or else you can't even play them. some games require larger spaces too.
after all of that though, it's a really great experience, even browsing youtube in the thing is pretty dope, and you can play non VR games / emulated games in a virtual theatre, also pretty fuckin neat. never got sick using VR, but apparently pansys get sick from walking while seated, so no game seems to support walking around and exploring, you have to teleport in all these games, and that's boring as hell.
my other complaints are that while it fits over my glasses, i get a far better experience with contacts. taking my glasses off makes it blurry, i guess there is actual depth? the lenses on the vive are also pretty blurry around the edges, but it's not a huge deal
it takes 2 years to develop a good game. I'm sure by the end of the year there will be some big name titles with vr like bf and cod.
I'd like to use the Vive but I feel like it design philosophy is flawed. I don't want to install the shitty boxes in me room and move around.
I just want to remap camera controls to the headset and play as I normally would. I just want to be able to look down and be my Skyrim waifu and self insert in my amorous adventures.
Hell, I'd probably make a male character for once so I can have my waifus syck my vidya peen too.
This. Got my Vive early because fuck it, the hype got to me and I want to support VR early. Only a matter of time before large scale title start getting released. The motion controllers on the Vive and the ones Oculus will get will basically be the Wii all over again, except much better and much more open.
The hype stopped once people realized that $600+ is real fucking outrageous for a peripheral.
It's worth the money for sure.
It's incredible.
I've demo'd it to over 40 people (including many people who laughed at me for 'wasting my money') and every single person came out of it with a huge fucking grin, and was blown away.
In saying that, i'd only recommend it to wealthy people and/or enthusiasts.
Wait.
You mean you have to be moving around and acting like a spaz? is this just the fucking xbox Kinect all over?
I thought it was just sitting down and playing Skyrim normally but with your head controlling the camera, basically.
I wear glasses and I can't do contacts. I've tried and they just irritate my eyes so badly that no amount of "getting used to them" will ever work. Can't do movie 3D shit either cause of them. Big thick ass coke bottle 8.5 diopter glasses.
Guess no VR for me. Oh well.
With the Vive yeah. I just want a headset to put me in. Not move around myself. Moving my head, sure, my srms and walking around, nah.
You need an empty room too.
some games worth playing in VR:
>distance
>enemystarfighter (changed title to house of the dying sun)
>elite dangerous
>eve valkyrie
>the lab
>that "new retro arcade" game where you walk around a room full of emulated games, on multiple consoles and cabinets
>job simulator (call me a pleb, but shit was amusing)
again, 95% of the people with vives seem to be dads with more sense than money, they talk about their kids using the vive and complain about their children being too short to play games properly, and the wifey :))) not letting them spend more money on their rigs after dropping a grand on the things. these are the vocal minority, probably never played a video game in their life, and barfing because their weak brains can't comprehend that their sitting down and playing a game in VR.
so no, no cod or BF3, unless they removing walking and everyone teleports instead
Most peoples TVs are more expensive than this, and they're really fucking old technology, with a much smaller resolution.
You can play seated or roomscale.
>I thought it was just sitting down and playing Skyrim normally but with your head controlling the camera, basically.
Will make you very motion sick.
>is this just the fucking xbox Kinect all over?
This is nothing like the kinect. This is perfect 1;1 movement with no latency. It's mind blowing.
A lot of people think how you do, then they try it, and they do a complete 180.
>demo'd it
I seriously hate people like you (in an envious way) I wish to all fucking hell I can just TRY this thing for myself, I can't decide if it's worth over 800 bucks if I can't try it. Idk anyone who has the fucking thing and all the stores I have nearby are best buys and kmarts and shit and they don't know anything about these things and have no setups for it
Yeah but a TV is better and less restricting.
You've clearly never used VR if you think a TV is better and less restrictive.
You can fucking sit in your chair, and wear VR and be in a fucking giant imax cinema watching TV on a giant fucking screen in VR.
VR can do everything a TV can, and infinitely more.
I dont really want to move around in VR or anything like that, i just want to play in my chair with m+kb or a controller and be able to look around, so the game would feel more immersive. So can you use vive at all while sitting in a chair?
you can use the vive for stationary shit, you still have to set up the lasers though. and whatever peripherals you want, hotas, wheels, gamepad, m+kb, a fucking rockband guitar, no need for wagglin
As someone that's in the UNITY3D scene. there's a LOT of experimentation going on there.
Suffice to say give it a couple of years and wel'l see big games made with these kinds of game mechanics:
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As you can see the hardware is ready, just need a while for the indie devs to make a decent game, and then to get bought out by a big dev and turned into a flagship franchise.
And then theyl'l all start doing it.
yeah, but you still have to set up the sensors and shit
most people's tvs are much cheaper than the vive alone
also televisions are usable for more than vidya. if you want basic VR you can just use google cardboard with a smartphone
You're retarded.
Let me put it this way...
If you purchase it, you are NOT going to regret it. It's amazing.
HOWEVER, if you have to ask the question of whether to get it or not... that means it's a big purchase for you. In which case i'd recommend waiting until gen2, if you can...
>what is 90fps
>also televisions are usable for more than vidya. if you want basic VR you can just use google cardboard with a smartphone
See;
VR's applications are almost infinite.
Saying a TV is better than VR is on par with saying... a football stadium is better than the internet.
VR is a whole fucking platform. It can do EVERYTHING and will be EVERYWHERE.
It's not a "big purchase" for me $ wise, it's more I'm cheap as shit and I don't buy a 9$ Pizza if I'm not 100% sure it will be tasty and give me satisfaction. I want to try it before dropping 800 bucks on something that may just be whatever
>PC is pretty shitty
>Would have to buy a 800-1,000$ PC ontop of the 800 for VR
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How much usage would you need to get out of it to consider it worthwhile?
I was one of the first to get the Vive, and im currently using it around 10 hours per week.
It's get exercise, and a lot of fun.
However, i can imagine some people would be bored by the 'lack of content'.
It really depends what you're into. If you like big long singleplayer games like Skyrim, you'll probably be a bit disappointed.
If you like arcadey games, you'll be very happy.
If you like multiplayer games, you'll be satisfied, and there's lots of good multiplayer stuff coming up that will be awesome.
I only really play multiplayer games, but i'm loving the arcadey stuff too (Space Pirate Trainer, Longbow, etc)
he's only a little retarded, while there's a loss in quality and a bit of blur around the edges of the lenses, it just works and is great to see.
just boot up steamVR and hit desktop, and you're looking at what feels like an enormous projector screen of your desktop. watching movie, anime, youtube videos, hell, pornhub has VR porn on it now. even just using your desktop is sexy as fuck. there's even an improved desktop application, but i won't be jewed into buying it after reading the reviews
>tfw upgrading my GPU, no biggie
>also want VR though
>un-ironically looking at spending $2,000 on 2 things for my PC
I just want to look at anime panties.
Not him but I personally like showing people what VR is like, for those reactions alone it's worth it.
Depends on how many people you'd show it too though, some people have no friends.
There are no games for VR.
There will never be games for motion-control VR.
The buzz has been an excellent demonstration why hype is stupid.
>Not him but I personally like showing people what VR is like, for those reactions alone it's worth it.
Definitely agree. It's almost as fun as playing. I've shown mine to over 40 people, and it's just great.
My favorite moment is when i pass the controllers to them, and their face just has this "WTF WOOOOOOOOOOOOW" expression.
>microsoft store in my town has the demo setup
S..should I go try it? acting like a complete spaz with a fucking headset on while 1,000s of HOT CHICKS look and laugh at me in a public mall is kinda triggering my shit here.
Maybe I should go on tuesday night or some shit, I have no work and hopefully it'll be empty there
I bought a Vive. I got it in one of the first shipments. I'm not using it much nowadays, I just burned through all the content, which isn't much, and now I want something deeper. I'm probably using it on average 1-2 hours a week now just because there might be some new stuff or sometimes I feel like dropping in on one of the arcade type games like Audi oshield.
You're as dumb as the people who said the internet was a fad in the 90s.
Short sighted simpleton.
It's really like I'm watching a monitor strapped to my face.
I went to one of the stores and it sold me. desu I think if anyone even looks at you they will be looking at the Vive rather than you acting like a spaz.
I also don't have any people around me physically where I'm at so I'm not having fun demoing it to people, it's mostly collecting dust. I used to demo it a lot to people where I'm not living now.
Depends if its the Rift or the Vive.
Rift is pretty gimmicky, as you just sit there and get motion sick.
Vive is incredible. GO NOW!
>look up all the prices on these beta testing VR games
>14$
>29$
>14$
>29$
Yeah fuck that I'll just buy the headset and pirate all the gam...
>0 hits on ANY of these VR games on kickass and piratebay
Literally fuck off, VR cancer. It's a fucking black hole for your wallet
... I'm sitting on money waiting for the availability of VR to improve.
They really fucking dropped the ball on that.
Not spending hundreds and waiting for half a year for something to show up.
>while 1,000s of HOT CHICKS look and laugh at me
this is my fetish
Tell me, when is that Kinect gonna catch on? The tech has been out for years now, so there's not that excuse that it's too new for devs to work with the hardware. So why didn't it ever get big? Because, it's fucking stupid
Same thing will happen to VR. It's not practical for gaming, or anything else for that matter. I just feel sorry for every dipshit who blew nearly a thousand dollars down the drain on this meme
I'll 3D print one for myself in a few years and see whether games caught up to the tech
When is the prostate play attachment set to release?
>implying the Internet is comparable to shitty WAGGLIN WITH GOGGLES
The hype is stupid because game companies treat VR as some sort of second coming of motion controls, as if wearing shitty eyestrain glasses is what was lacking from making the kinect, wii and PissMove viable serious gaming platform.
In reality the only real potential VR has is a niche luxury replacement for a monitor, for a few very specific games in very specific genres. Trying to market it to general audiences is just so fucking mindboggling stupid.
Guys.
Okay.
Let's just cut right through all this bullshit and get to the real question everyone wants to ask.
If I have the vive, will it make VR Skyrim with porn mods that much hotter? the thought of looking down IRL and finding myself banging my busty khajiit slut of a companion would make me nut hands-free, but only if it's good. Also I heard you have to buy a 40$ driver to make non "steam approved" VR games to work with vive? it's not just plug and play shit?
Kinect failed because the tracking was shit, the XBOX is shit, and there is only so much you can do with a camera watching being the only sensor. Also because, by being for XBOX only, it was more cost effective to make regular XBOX games than to make Kinect games, while VR, being on PC, can just exist on the indie market until it grows enough for the mainstream industry to get into it.
>Kinect
The shit M$ put out that never lived up to the promises. No shit, it didnt catch on.
VR? Too early to see if it lives up to the promises. Owners certainly think it is headed in the right direction as a majority.
>comparing Kinect to VR
you guys are so fucking gay
those pictures he was jacking it to were pretty tame, what an unrealistic scene.
... isn't it your bed time, old man?
Kinect failed because it was bad.
VR will succeed because it's amazing.
Why do you sit on the internet making bold statements about things you've never even used?
Fuck off and do something useful with your time.
See above. You clearly have never used a Vive, or you'd understand.
Go have invalid opinions elsewhere.
The Vives controllers are perfectly tracked 1:1 with no latency. The same cannot be said for anything else on the market. It is mind blowingly good. One day you'll try it and realize you're a fucking idiot, and go "wow, im glad i am a degenerate on an anonymous image board, otherwise my reputation would be ruined! oh well, off i go to shitpost something else i know nothing about"
Do you want to masturbate while looking like a racoon afterwards?
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>investing hundreds of dollars, simply to masturbate
you don't seem to get it, it's not some flat image that's pressed right up against your eyes. it's like your monitor is in real life, but floating in virtual space, blown up to home theatre size.
if i really wanted to i could scoot my chair back and move away from it
you see that desktop?you can scale it
The actual interactive experience plays through the headset. The images just show your selection, like a dvd case. Looks like he chose 3 of the same girl (two in bikini, one in dress), another in yellow cut off top, and one more in a low low cut dress.
What fucking GPU are you buying that's $1k+?
It happened and it was very neat but the games available right now are very shallow so everyone's waiting for new, meatier offerings.
>spending hundreds-thousands to fuck a woman
fucking normies. go get laid or something.
nig you can explore the fucking GALAXY in virtual reality with a 1:1 scale of entire planets
it's amazing. you will literally never see things that large with your own eyes, outside of vr.
and if you know how to use unity or whatever you can scale anime characters up to that size too.
>have to buy a PC capable of this shit
>have to buy the thing itself
>have to buy a bunch of vr ready games
>have to buy a driver for non steam games
wew lad
The "buzz" disappeared because that's as long the VR marketers paid the companies to shill for. Video game companies market on Sup Forums. Its apparently a fact of life anymore here
gpu is 750~?, vive like 1200.
They're made to fit over glasses. It's not ideal, but you'd be fine.
Do you fucking working for Microsoft or something you shill shit? literally FUCK OFF. VR is a fucking shit gimmick that no one gives a shit about.
People play games to just sit on ass and relax.
Kinect failed
wii waggle failed
virtual boy failed
failed
This is just the current gen version of VR failing. Yeah some people will buy it, it's not the "next big thing" it's a flop, it's shit, it's a gimmick.
If it's like my monitor in real life why wouldn't I just use my monitor?
Dollarydoos? Guess that explains it. Stuff like the 390 covers VR though, certainly that can't be that much there.
>mad and gay poorfag
lol
>wii waggle failed
Yes, that's why it was the best-selling console of its generation, retard.
The inherent problem with motion controls isn't the input delay, it's the fact that nobody wants to stand and waggle their limbs while playing vidya. You play to relax, not to get back pains.
>a bunch of vr ready games
But there aren't any
It's a proof of concept for what is right now a purely enthusiast product. Doesn't mean that it's not awesome, but this is the first generation of an experimental technology, and if you get one without being fully aware of this fact then you probably shouldn't be trusted with all that money.
I don't know what a dolalrydoo is but yeah I'm getting a 1080 probably. AMD is retarded to buy.
Aussiebucks. Also, you're a moron. Look at the 970 fiasco. Think that won't happen again?
>wii waggle failed
bruh
Stay poor and/or old.
holy shit i wasted 1000 usd
Gotta have games my man.
Few tech demos and god awful shoe-horning of real games to function with VR is not enough.
This. Also, fuck both the shills/hypers and the nay-sayers. They either don't know shit or are just full on themselves. VR people don't need to push their things down other people's throats. No matter what they say, other people will have different opinions, and not everyone will try VR and like it in its current stage. The naysayers are also retarded in that they either haven't tried VR and don't know shit about it, or they're just overly critical/cynical.
The tech is cool and can provide an amazing, immersive experience. But tech is only half the battle, and the tech is extremely expensive. You need to convince developers to make expensive video games, to do that you have to have an install base. Currently there is no, one game that makes the vive worth having. Most of the games are indie shovelware and tech demos.
Sony is set to win the VR war right now. Their headset is half the price and better designed and more comfortable. They have actual video games as launch titles. They have convinced actual video game development studios to put resources into making games for it. Their tech may be the weakest, but its still comparable.
>overly critical/cynical.
or they have no perspective/imagination to see where the tech is heading.
>to see where the tech is heading.
It's just games with the monitor strapped to your face. Calm your shit
The 970 is a good card even despite that shortcoming. There were under a handful of occasions when that 'fiasco' even had an impact on actual gaming.
AMD is garbage in comparison even to that card.
>emulation/opengl
>energy consumption
>useful software gimmicks
>graphics(hbao+, aa methods, inspector, enb, etc)
I'm not a moron but you truly are for suggesting to anything that buying trash is okay :)
This is the #1 reason I haven't bought into VR yet.
If people were ripping all these tech demos or early access garbage it could justify the pricetag of the original unit but not a single one of those games are worth their set price on top of it all.
>emulation is perfectly fine, AMD processors are what you're thinking of braindead retard
>this will cost you a maximum of a couple bucks a year, and I pay my own energy bill
>closed-source proprietary gimmicks
>good
>any AMD GPU does all this as well
>AMD processors are what you're thinking of braindead retard
Stopped reading there. Nice try shill.
>actively saying their processors are shit
>hurr shill
.03 cents has been deposited to your Nvidicuck account.
Did you ever considered a surgery?
>actively saying their shit gpus are good
A shill.
Hell I agree AMD gpus are good, but Nvidia is objectively better in every way.
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>House of the Dying Sun
i feel like this title is right on the border of cute and embarrassing
not sure which way its leaning
It's early technology and there are shills but I've never seen anybody on Sup Forums has given a solid argument against vr. It's always oversimplifications or using examples that are decades old, before HD compact screens existed.
There are issues with movement and balance but they're being addressed by multiple parties. Yet Sup Forums say things like 'never' as if technology stands still. It's childish.
I have a GearVR with my Galaxy S7 and it's cool and all, but I spent more time watching porn on it than playing games or anything. The VR porn that's available isn't even very good. It mostly just collects dust now.
It'll be worth getting into in like 3-5 years, but for now it's not worth the cost to the average consumer.
Also they're pretty uncomfortable to wear for more than like half an hour. Not just eye-strain but having the whole thing strapped onto your face.
Sup Forums realized they couldn't afford it and began shitposting it to death
it's first generation enthusiast technology, nobody in their right minds expected it to be in everyone's homes within months, let alone capable of what everyone in this shit hole was hyping it up to be
yall created some unrealistic expectations for yourselves, expecting some SAO waifu shit on day one
that being said I love my gear vr, this tech is the future
Really? You've taken all arguments into consideration?
You silly little faggot.
No good software to make use of the hardware. VR needs a decent AAA title. Like a cawadootyVR or something along those lines. Personally, I'm looking forward to ace combat 7 in VR but thats a ways off.