What went wrong?

What went wrong?
How it was even possible to fuck up so badly?

It was fine, time for you to fuck off back to the Codex where you belong, nigger.

Nothing went wrong, they delivered on what they promised, not their fault you have no idea how an infinity engine game plays.

>Nothing went wrong, they delivered on what they promised
No, they promised old school style crpg
>not their fault you have no idea how an infinity engine game plays.
But I know, this is exactly why I have problem with this garbage

only thing missing was co-op

divos is nice and all, but it's no rtwp

It's no Planescape Torment but it's certainly better than that Baldur's Gate garbage and that's all I expected from it.

>better than bg
Fight me nigger

>N-nothing went wrong, stop calling the game out for being a steaming pile of shit!

Time for you both to fuck off back to tumblr. OP is right, the game is fucking trash.

IWD2 puts it to shame.

the game is fine what the hell is wrong with you

>jerking off to a 14 year old game

Fuck off back to where you belong codexnigger

It's totally better than BG. BG sucks fucking dick.


BG2, on the other hand, is better.

It would have been GOTY in 1998.
It isn't 1998.

Add to that nostalgia goggles takes at least 5 years to kick in and it won't be considered good by hipsters for a few more years.

What was wrong with it, aside from that manufactured "sjw" shit

That 14 year old game is literally superior in every way.
They couldn't even get something as basic as attribute points right in PoE.

>Unfun, "balanced" garbage
>GOTY in the 1998
No, just no

As someone who really enjoyed playing the BG1 for the first time around last christmas, would I enjoy PoE?

Sure

No
You could have "fun' in the bg
It's impossible to have "fun" in the PoE because obsidian decided to dump down everything and make game boring

DESU, game felt.... bland. It may be that playing BG and BG2 around the time when they came out, as well as IWD, IWD and PST when I was 12-14 years old impacted me differently, however I really did not get any of that deep adult theming they promised. Only slightly it was touched upon when you went to something like level 6-8 in that stronghold basement.

"Demo" it and find out.
If you like it buy it.

I would guess you would probably enjoy it if you liked BG.

as opposed to the masterful decisionmaking involved in Baldur's Gate's "should I roll until I have all 18 stats or should I play a bad character"

The writing and characters were stale. And none of the quests were really very interesting either.

Just dumping a bunch of short stories with OC characters all over the place was never going to make a well-rounded immersive setting.

It was mostly just the terrible storytelling. The gameplay wasn't particularly good either, but the storytelling is what is really supposed to sell this type of game.

>should I play a bad character
Child of modern games...

not quite sure you could do that. I remember spending something along 20 minutes in BG2 rolling stats for thief-swashbuckler half orc.

I liked the idea they touched very little upon what they called 'gates' - idea is - you one thing and you can't do something else. But, IIRC, it was only during that guild quest line...

problem with many modern games is they say you have freedom, but in the end if you don't do black or white you get very bad gameplay.

I have literally played every single Isometric RPG of note except for BG 1 & 2, I can't play either of them without getting bored a couple of hours in. I have tried to play them on and off for over a decade and never got more than three hours in without getting bored out of my mind. I don't understand.

It's ironic you would say that because the success of Baldur's Gate is what started the dumbing down of cRPGs

I don't remember any crpg back then that tried to be like bg and not it's own thing

>It's impossible to have "fun" in the PoE because obsidian decided to dump down everything and make game boring
Sorry bro, but Baldur's Gate's gameplay was even more bland than PoE.

BG2 shits on them both easily, but that's why we have PoE2 coming to get into the juicy high level shit

>I have literally played every single Isometric RPG of note except for BG 1 &2
>I have literally played every single isometric RPG of note except the two best
dude wat?

Why do autists spaz out for this game? Same thing with Witcher 3, just unbridled rage whenever the game is brought up.

>bg1
>best
It's wasn't even good

They promised to deliver the best parts of every IE game and failed to deliver

Wow, you can read, amazing.

Also please stop dicksucking the BG series so fucking hard, there are plenty of games superior to the first game especially.

oh look. another shitposting thread.

like it or not - they delivered what they promised in the kickstarter.

/thread

jesus christ baldurs gate drones are the fucking worst fucking scum

>they delivered on what they promised
>Project Eternity will take the central hero, memorable companions and the epic exploration of Baldur’s Gate, add in the fun, intense combat and dungeon diving of Icewind Dale, and tie it all together with the emotional writing and mature thematic exploration of Planescape: Torment.

Obsidian fanbois defense force
vs
Hipster "Everything is shit" attack force.

A battle royale between to groups who score high on the autism scale.

RPGCodex niggers.

>except the two best known
What's an ellipsis for 200$

>memorable
>epic
>fun
>emotional
>mature

It was a fine, enjoyable game. I look forward to the sequel, and it was only 20 bucks.

It wasnt the best game ever but I really enjoyed myself.

There were some cons, like their insistance that every class be balanced perfectly (like they forgot how OP rogues and inquisitors were in bg2 and IWD2) and the stronghold was a missed opportunity (they should have revolved the game around it) but I look forward to Tyranny

How would you measure any of that objectively?

Yes, and Pillars of Eternity had all of this, fucking RPGCodex faggot

Nice arguments here, supermassive faggot.

Bioware was always shit. Never forget this.

>tfw wanted to play an interrupt based character but an important feat was broken until late patches and interrupt itself didn't quite work as one would expect due to sawyerish balance
fuck this game

>central hero
check
>memorable companions
check
>epic exploration of Baldur’s Gate
check
>intense combat
check
>dungeon diving
check

>and tie it all together with the emotional writing and mature thematic exploration of Planescape: Torment.
I don't really care that much about this part. The writing and plot was sufficient for me, sometimes even enjoyable. The world building definitely is there, you always felt like a part of a bigger world.

There was a point when they were the best.

That was when EA slammed the bux down, and ruined everything. I was active on the forum that day, and people called exactly what would happen, and the devs were all like NONO WE HAVE AUTONOMY

it had everything except the quality writing, which to be honest, I dont think anyone in the industry knows how to reproduce at a Torment level. I feel like for every RPG that comes out, the marketing people tell the story people they want torment, but that it needs to be dumbed down for the plebs, which of course takes the torment aspect away.

As far as Obsidian and inXile go though, I just think they lost what they had in them at Black Isle

Nope, they were always shit. Always.
Always worse than black isle, always worse than inxile, always worse than obsidian, always worse than CDPR. Always subpar. Subpar writing, subpar gameplay.

This, the writing in Baldurs Gate is laughable.

It's a solid crpg. Nothing great but nothing bad either.

Obsidian happened they've been shit for years tbqh

>It's a solid crpg
No, it's not
Just like DA:I

Pillars was their first bad game desu. Really weird

>Pillars was their first bad game
NWN2
Kotor2

>Dungeon Siege 3

>Pillars was their first bad game
no

>Just like DA:I
PoE is an order of magnitude better than Dragon Age

An actual biodrone? On my Sup Forums?

Is such a thing even possible?

I missed BG's and planescape back then and played it a couple of years ago when I was around 24-25 and liked them much much more than PoE.

What the fuck are you talking about?
Pillars was almost as good as MotB

Unnecessary tweaking of obvious dnd ripoffs.

The fuck? PoE is the best isometric rpg ever made. It took all the good things from old rpgs and made them even better. Are you autistic or just contrarians?

Tried to play it too safe, end result was a bland and boring game. That combined with MMO tier design and balance of classes, abilities and items pretty much ruined the game.

It's alright to play through once, but it has no replayability whatsoever. Meanwhile I replay Baldurs Gate 1/2 almost every year.

Gameplay wise? No
Just like with dai, if combat wasn't so bad, they could pass as mediocre games
Even if everything is bad combat is still a major part of the game so if it's good, then game could pass
Witcher3 for example had garbage combat too, but everything else was really good

PoE is Path of Exile, chum.

I had a lot of fun with the game, it has legitimate issues, mainly with the spells being a big too boring and the combat being too static, but people calling it shit must have never played a bad game in their life, Pillars was very decent.

It's shit compared to old games. And some people claim that pillars are somehow better.

These

>No, they promised old school style crpg

I haven't gotten far into the game yet, but that's exactly what they delivered. What are you complaining about?

I enjoyed the story and setting for the most part. What really irks me though is when they create this vast world that has all these unique and interesting locales but end up setting the game in the bland and generic place in the world, and just have the other places told through books or NPC dialogue.

any suggestions on what mmorpg kind of game shoud be fun to play with 3-4 friends, the game should not be uber graphical but rather more a lot of stuff and quests and shit to do together and so on?

I enjoyed KOTOR2, was simply disappointed at the end
never even noticed HK-47 bit was broken until my third playthrough which happened to be my final playthrough because FUCK Peragus

Neverwinter Nights with player made modules is your best bet for a co-op RPG with more than two people. Aielund Saga, Cave of Songs, and The Prophet all support co-op.

It's literally dai with mmorpg combat and no romances.

Why are PoE threads always so bad?

The game itself is bad.

Just tried numenera demo
Yep, it's not infinity engine's fault for the poe being bad, obsidian just incompetent

>not their fault you have no idea how an infinity engine game plays.

It's true, I had no idea it played like shit.

>mmorpg combat

Is kiddynity original shit better?

torment tides of numenera is made by inXile

>mmorpg combat
post those mmorpg's

The spell system it's boring garbage.
The combat it's just shit, planescape level of shit but you don't have the option to play focusing on charisma and wisdom.

This wouldn't even have been goty in 1990 because it's so painfully fucking bland compared to any other games of the genere.

>"oh we wanted do give you a traditional experience of a common rpg campaign"

No you didn't, you're just creatively bankrupt and all the good writer left your sorry ass.

>ugly tranny.jpg

Just wait for pillars of eternity 2, then people will start praising the first one

Old style with new cultural ideas don't work mixed.

Bacause thanks to the edgy elitist cunts from codex it's now cool to hate poe and obsidian in general
the game instelf is fine, strong 7/10 and 8/10 afeter dlc but see, it's not a fucking d&d anymore
you can't solo everything with a mage, you can't romance pixels because you never love in real life and you the most important one, you can't be young again so everything is shit and bg is the best thing ever
Fuck the haters drones, poe 2 is already in the works, tyrrany will be miles better that that fucking indie crap aod
go suck a indie cock rpg edgedex

what game is dis

>back the kickstarter to get the collector edition
>tried to sell it on ebay months later
>nobody fucking wants it

>The spell system it's boring garbage.
because it's not broken?
>planescape level of shit
play planescape again

Obsidian defence force

Old games meaning, only the old games you actually remember ?

Its not on par with timeless classics sure, but it's way above average if you actually played more rpgs than just fucking baldur's gate and fallout

kiddynity original shit, some coop console game with funny humor and memes

>because it's not broken?
No because it's made by "original donut steel" spells that are bordeline useless and extremely circumstantial.


>play planescape again
I did.
You're right, planescape is better.

>Sawyer's concept of a stat system
>Sawyer's concept of balance
>Sawyer's concept of a battle system that will see extensive use throughout the game

>bordeline

your brain is borderline useless

>You're right, planescape is better.
pst combat is way worse than poe

christ people have no idea what that even means.

RPG fans tend to be cunts.

Absurd standards for the classic games that, really don't hold up.

It insulted transsexuals but fixed it so nothing.