Why doesn't Nintendo make games anymore? I feel like 90% of their current business model is just manufacturing physical products and marketing.
Are they really only going have Zelda WiiU at E3 when the NX is supposed to release 8 months after E3? That's pretty retarded.
It makes them look weak and pathetic
I can't wait for their justification being something like "we didn't want to overshadow Zelda U" or "We didn't want the NX to be overshadowed"
Why do you love making the same threads over and over again?
Here I go!
>Are they really only going have Zelda WiiU at E3 when the NX is supposed to release 8 months after E3? That's pretty retarded.
This has been discussed to death, holy fuck.
THEY DON'T WANT TO BE OVERSHADOWED
Is this a hard point to get through your heads?
1. When they reveal their console, they'll reveal it when THEY'RE in the spotlight, not when they're sharing it with Sony, MS, Ubisoft and EA.
2. There hasn't been a console revealed at E3 since the WiiU, and it didn't work out well
3. They've lost a shitload of ground in Japan between the Playstation brand and mobile. Japs don't watch E3. They'll need a strong homebase and will reveal it at an event for the Japs.
Christ.
Let's get rid of Sup Forums for the rest of the day
That Bayonetta 2 shoot was from two years ago though.
I'M DOING IT
And the shill Nintendo defense force has arrived!
>record time
/vr/ please
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only the third post in and hes already copy pasting the canned lines from nintendo central command. within the next 3 posts one of them will talk about E3 dying and how everyone is pulling out, despite there being more conferences than ever before this year.
They struck autism gold with amiibos.
That and since they fucking refuse to get third party support, the WiiU got abandoned already.
they're diversifying their business so they can keep making videogames which will allow you obsessive cocksuckers to keep complaining about how bad they are for another decade, you should be grateful
>THEY DON'T WANT TO BE OVERSHADOWED
Are you suggesting a console announcement at E3 of all places would be overshadowed by a couple of game announcements for competing systems?
If anything they'd be overshadowing everyone else with the "new thing".
>somebody at some point in time wrote this
Funny after how after years of Nintendrones memeing "Muh-tendo will never die" and "they have enough cash to keep making failed products till the next millennium xD" they're finally starting to fold. Good riddance too, Nintendo should've gone the way of Sega many years ago.
It's possible Sony will show off the gaf console, so yeah, it's possible they'd be overshadowed
>90% of their current business model is just manufacturing physical products and marketing.
Jesus christ you people are fucking children.
This has, and always will be the case.
Same goes for Sony and MS.
These people are businessmen, they're fucking job is to sell you something.
Your choice is whether or not to buy, your purchase decisions influence their business choices.
If these things didn't work, they would try something else. If genuine effort to make a good game was all that was needed to sell, or if it was the most effective way, everyone would do it.
But time after time has proven that most people don't give a shit about making everything the best it could be, time after time has proven that marketing is literally all you fucking need.
Time after time has proven that you fucking people will still buy this shit, thus perpetuating their business models.
You want things to change, you have to somehow convince the normie crowd to stop paying up. (which outnumber all of you 10 to 1 and is the reason why they are appealed to and why their shitty, uneducated opinion, matters much more than all of you irrelevant elitists who no one in the world would pander to). Your bitching on a forum most people don't want to touch holds no damn ground.
It's pathetic when you retards swear you know the fate of the industry. "Sony is dead, no games and 4.5k". Grow the fuck up fatties, you people are a ridiculous minority, you're out of your mind if you think your voice reaches further than the next couple of posts under you. No one outside of here think like any of you, no one thinks they're fucking "betrayed" when companies do shit like this, it's just things to spend money on to them.
You fags are so fucking disconnected.
Let me remind you fucking shut ins, that normies outnumber you and their purchase and opinion matters 10 times more than any of yours, and these companies are businesses, ran by business men, not passionate game devs that just want to make you happy.
I refuse to support Nintendo, and pretty much any console, because of the garbage they keep peddling.
>mfw all of the pricey DLC for smash brothers, which was already a 50-60 dollar game
what did he mean by this?
>people actually buy amiibos and other pointless Nintendo shovelware
I don't blame Nintendo for making them but holy shit the average consumer is retarded as fuck if they actually buy such low quality products.
Its like Nintendrones have an addiction to the shitty, and the more generic/shitty it is, the better.
I think my last Nintendo related purchase was SMM in 2015. Nintendo hasn't made anything I wanted lately. And I refuse to buy Fates or TMS because those fucks at NoA keep censoring everything.
It's hilarious.
>Super Nintendo is very powerful, only competition is Sega Genesis
>Sega shoots themselves in the foot, Nintendo wins.
>N64 is powerful, no one buys it
>Gamecube is powerful, no one buys it
>Wii is severely underpowered, but cheaper and relies on a gimmick
>Most sold system of the gen
>DS is weaker than PSP and uses touch screen gimmick
>Blows PSP out the water
>3DS is weaker than Vita, has 3D gimmick
>Blows PSVita out of the water
>Wii U comes out with weak marketing campaign
>No one buys it
>Nintendo continuously changes business model to adapt to these things, increasing their marketing strategy
>Amiibos and whatnot prove to be successful
>WAAAAHHH NINTENDO TURNED TO GREEDY JEWS, THEY'RE DOOMED
Nintendo tries to make a genuine effort to make something powerful for big but conventionally good games, and no one gives a shit. They decide to sell you retards toys, even locking game content behind it.
You call them greedy jews, but you actually fucking buy this shit.
Like, how the fuck don't you people look back and realize how much of this shit is your fault
"And even Nintendo still makes games... but, that's debatable."
What did he mean by this..?
Who /Loadline/ here?
>But time after time has proven that most people don't give a shit about making everything the best it could be, time after time has proven that marketing is literally all you fucking need.
This. The gameboy absolutely murdered the competition despite being underpowered and arguably overpriced. Same with the NES. I still love both systems though. Software also plays into it, with the third parties all leaving post SNES its no wonder Nintendo ended up where they are now.
Because they are pretty much on standby until the Wii U dies.
>Nintendo tries to make a genuine effort to make something powerful for big but conventionally good games
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. All consoles had trash hardware compared to their PC counterparts. Nintendo was just better at hiding it.
the sheer lack of fucks nintendo gives about the industry is endearing, they are like that nut relative of yours that ends up peeing on the carpet at family reunions
Meme aside everyone is fucking aware that Nintendo are less productive than Sega at this point.
They're the new Atari.
It's time for them to move on and accept the glory of the Emperor instead.
>All consoles had trash hardware compared to their PC counterparts.
At the time of the N64's release this wasn't true. By just a few years later it was though.
UNJUST
>Nintendo's business plans are fucktarded
>They censor shit
>But they make the only games worth playing now
TRANSFORMATION!!!
DELETING IT WONT STOP ME
ROLLIIIING
>Let's not get ahead of ourselves. All consoles had trash hardware compared to their PC counterparts. Nintendo was just better at hiding it.
Oh please shut up. Who the fuck doesn't know that PC is more powerful, why even make that statement? Did you feel better about your fatself by restating some obvious as fuck shit like that, did you feel more validated in life?
And hell, PC is great example of why power and being efficiently the best bang for buck, doesn't mean jack shit. When the shitty under powered consoles is still everyone's "go to" when they think of video games.
People want to be told what to buy. If getting the best quality and most options for your dollar was what sold, there would ONLY be PC and maybe Nintendo.
Once again, you retards want the companies to stop jewing you, stop fucking buying, and then you gotta convince the normies to stop to.
Good fucking luck with that, we're talking about people who buy the new fucking iphone EVERY YEAR.
>Nintendo games
>Worth playing
Nintendo consoles started being shit after the Gamecube and Nintendo handhelds started being shit after the DS, nintendo doesn't make good games anymore.
This. Lmao I feel so sorry for people who take video games this seriously.
>If anything they'd be overshadowing everyone else with the "new thing".
And "journalists" don't care.
Nintendo could announce the NX with the official blowjob add-on, and websites would still talk about how fucking great the PS4 is and how Sony is so amazing.
Nintendo can't win. This is why they have Directs to begin with.
>And hell, PC is great example of why power and being efficiently the best bang for buck, doesn't mean jack shit. When the shitty under powered consoles is still everyone's "go to" when they think of video games.
So, are you implying that popularity makes consoles better? Because that's what I'm getting from your post.
Nah they still make good games that are fun and enjoyable to play.
>fun and enjoyable
You could say that about every console, if we're going by "popular opinion" or "metacritic".
No i'm going by personal experience. I play games instead of sitting on Sup Forums and complaining about the ones I never touched.
As for every console, yes you can say that when companies still do make good games.
Obey the trips.
Reminder that if you don't like Nintendo games you might as well go full normie.
They are, Pepe.
I loved Hyrule Warriors, I think it's very fun to play AND I enjoy playing it. Same with Tropical Freeze.
I'm sorry that you disagree.
>popular opinion
>metacritic
the primary shitposting tools these days.
look, if you can enjoy Undertale or Uncharted(hahaha Uncharted for the love of god!) I can enjoy Mario Kart.
No.
I'm not implying anything is better than anything.
I'm clarifying to you disconnected manchildren that the real world doesn't think like you, not anywhere close.
That the reason for why Nintendo's business model is the way it is now, and why every companies business model revolves around advertising us to death and selling us bullshit, still works and is still going strong.
Because you people, and more importantly, everyone else, buys this shit every time.
Popularity doesn't make consoles better, popularity is why consoles sell better and why people buy it more.
You want good games and a good console with goodness in it?
Fuck off, you morons wont fucking buy it if they do it.
They instead polish a turd and tell you it's exotic chocolate, you fucking idiots and everyone else buys it each and every single time.
And every fucking year you're here screaming "WHY DO THEY KEEP SELLING US SHIT!"
So fuck it, it makes perfect fucking sense. Actually trying to do something honest gets you shut down. It's much much much better to sell an underwhelming product with millions poured into making sure you're convinced it's otherwise.
What have they even put out this year besides a shitty Star Fox reboot?
No.
A bunch of games will be announced and the big question will be "why aren't these games coming to Nintendo's new console?"
Why are you so mad?
See, this is the major flaw in your arguing logic. You say that Undertale and Uncharted are "pure dogshit", but then another user who presumably shares your viewpoint says that "Mario is objectively good because alot of people like it".
So which is it? Does popularity dictate quality, or does your personal opinion nullify the opinions of others? You can't have your cake and eat it too.
But I only buy things I think are good and pirate everything else. The last Nintendo game I bought was Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate and I haven't given Nintendo a dime since.
That's fucking retarded.
>dodging the question
>defending uncharted
Get a load of this Sonygger queer.
Undertale is pretty good though.
Seriously, are you guys paying attention, are you reading what the fuck is happening here? This thread is here, bitching about Nintendo selling shit like amiibos, and then later there will be another thread about people showing off their fucking Amiibo collection.
The hell is wrong with you people? Do you even know wtf you want?
New zelda amiibos in happy meals
has the actually happened or did plans fall through?
Don't quote me.
Probably because of PS4K rumors.
You say shitty, I say fun.
Also there is Planet Robobot, Fire Emblem Fates (Complain all you want about the story but Conquest's gameplay was fantastic), While they didn't make it themselves, there was Pokken.
Plus there were more game released near the end of 2015 that were really good like Super Mystery Dungeon and Paper Jam along with Xenoblade X
>Bayonetta Playboy promotion is somehow bad
>no one mentions that Nintendo owns the rights to two Mario themed pornos
>they're currently known more for their stupid toys than their consoles
that's bad user, its literally telling Nintendo to quit video games and just sell toys
Well you could say the pre GameCube Mario games were objectively good because they set industry standards for game design.
Dude where the fuck in my post Do I pull this popularity comparison bullshit?
Once again the cognitive dissonance here is astounding. Please, tell me why you think you have the sole right to determine whether a game is good or not.
The same could be said of Half Life 1 on the PC. But it doesn't stop people hating it here.
>there are people who still haven't realized Nintendo lives off nostalgia and nothing more
open your eyes already, they have been doing for quite some time now what square just did: trying to monetize on FF VII after such long time, just building up more and more nostalgia.
They will NEVER be the same as the NES/SNES/N64 era. The sooner you realize that, the better.
which video?
>defending uncharted
Get a load of this Sonygger queer.
Do people actually care about Amiibo nowadays? Unless a waifu like Isabelle, Callie/Marie or Midna gets announced I think only collectfags buy them.
You're not quoting the same person there m8. You quoted a bunch of different individuals.
So who the hell are you talking to?
I'm pretty sure no one thinks popularity = quality, we're just saying, quality = no money in the vidya world so far, so stop being so surprised.
And you are one in a god damn million user.
See the problem? I'm like you, i buy it if it's actually worth it, pirate it if it's not. Sure, cool. Guess what?
Our dollar doesn't mean shit.
So if we ask for quality and the normies ask for anything else, then forget about it.
how about judging the entire gen instead of this past year
3ds and wii u's libraries are solid
People on this board generally like HL1 but dislike the games it inspired, much like how they feel about RE4 and Winback.
That'd be like telling Nintendo to go back to making toys like they made for the past 100+ years
There was no way that was ever going to happen. The average amiibo costs way more than what a happy meal toy is worth.
yes people do buy them. They're a stupid success.
So Nintendo will keep making them.
Thank your fellow waifu fags around here.
i wouldnt buy a ps4 and i dont care for uncharted, but how can you compare a game like uncharted 4 to junk shovelware like metroid federation force or star fox zero? its actually laughable that nintendo fans actually think theyre comparable or that they can criticize any other games on the market. their shit is equivalent to the junk xbox 360 games they gave out at burger king.
Please tell me why you think you have the sole right to determine whether a game is bad or not.
As for me, I can determine it because I have played the games for myself, have found them engaging and felt satisfied with the product I spent my money on and I would most likely recommend the product to friends.
3rd party devs don't wanna touch their Ipad console. People are growing tired of the same old franchises they've been rehashing for years. They're just doing this to hold themselves over til they can launch the NX or whatever its going to be called.
>defending uncharted
Get a load of this Sonygger queer.
It's like they're going full circle.
DUDE ZELDA E3
LMAO!!
Now, when did I ever defend Uncharted?
>we're just saying, quality = no money in the vidya world
Yet Splatoon outsold Bloodborne, and I'm pretty sure you'd defend Splatoon as a good game. So you've contradicted yourself yet again.
Seeing the massive stock of animal crossing amiibo tells me no.
I love the autistic butthurt from Amiibo because I know if there was Soniibo, Micromiibo, or Bliizard/Valvemiibo you guys would eat it up.
The 3DS is at the end of its lifespan and compared to every handheld that came before it (talking GB, GBA, DS, PSP) I don't think its library is as good, let alone better than any of them.
>started with cards and toys
>going to end with cards and toys
poetic.
Or even the GC era for that matter atleast they tried to make original games then. Splatoon is the only ambitious game Nintendo has done this gen, the rest is just more of the same to build on nostalgia.
>giving Sonyggers and general shitposters attention
thats why you're not a grandmaster.
Look at your shoes user. Shoes can go from tens to hundreds of dollars.
Made by gook children for about 5-10 fucking cents.
And you fucking think putting an Amiibo in a happymeal is going too far?
>Please tell me why you think you have the sole right to determine whether a game is bad or not.
Unlike your posts, I can use reasoning and logic to argue my point. I can't claim them as fact, but I can back up what I say with things other than opinions. For example, you can say that you had fun with Uncharted, but I can point out the massive issues in the combat, the FPS drops, the quick time events, the linearity of the maps despite claims of being open ended, and the buggy online.
So my argument has a few more legs to stand on.
>b-but Dude Raider is good guise!!!1
Go back to the Gaf sonyfriend.
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Codename STEAM also happened.
I'd rather be a normie than a manchild weeb like you
At least I would get laid unlike any Nintenfag ever :^)
see
>Kirby game
>Zelda HD
>Pokken
>StarFox Zero
>StarFox Guard
>FE Fates (Europe)
>Pokemon Sun/Moon
So far. Pretty good lineup, really
now compare this to metroid federation force. its actually laughable that you think you can criticize other random games to defend nintendo's burger king games.