Is this what it feels like to play MOBA's?

>Dumbfuck teammates
>Never type
>Never play tank or support
>Double pick classes which are already taken
>Never change class to counterpick
>Play widowmaker despite being unable to aim
>Never go for the objective
>Always lose

Tell me about your most infuriating teammates, Sup Forums

Have you never played Team Fortress?

Just consider yourself lucky there's no Spy class in this game

I knew this game would be dogshit so I just played a few hours of TF2 to get it out of my system and save myself the money and frustration.

At least with TF2 you have 12 people on a team, where 4-6 can be shit and the rest of you can carry, but with Overwatch being 6v6 you basically have to suffer since just a few shit teammates will ruin the game.

Feel bad for people that wasted money on this desu

This is not a MOBA.

>Pick Reinhardt on attack
>Teammate instantly locks in Widowmaker
>Everyone else picks offensive heroes
>We finally pressure another guy to change to support
>Of course he picks the most offense support, Zenyatta
>Literally about a minute into the game Widowmaker makes a comment about our team being retarded
>Remind him that he's shit, Hes playing widow on offense and that I'm playing tank and have more eliminations than him
>He and Zenyatta turn out to be friends
>Zenyatta tells me that hes reported me and then refuses to heal me for the rest of the match
>We lose

Team Fortress was more bearable because you had lots of teammates and it never felt like there was any pressure to win

I know it's not a MOBA, but I've never played another game where I have to rely on my teammates so heavily.

Welcome to team based game pubs

Are you actually surprised?

I hate fucking Widowmakers.
If someone want a sniper in attack, pick Hanzo.

>Team Fortress was more bearable because you had lots of teammates

I haven't played anything but pugs : the post

>Play with 3 friends together
>We actually communicate
>We actually co-ordinate our efforts
>Dominate 90% of our games

>I'm poor as fuck

Yeah no shit, good detective work Sherlock

Why do people who own the noir skin insist on using Widowmaker every game?

win or lose, 90% of my games are fine. competent people doing fairly competent things on both teams.
maybe you're the shitter, stuck in a trench of shitters. have fun, i guess. :^)

>I have no impulse control

>A competitive game I didn't play competitively is better because I played on PUGs

You should try Heroes of the Storm. It's much worst than Overwatch for that. Teamwork is really important. If you see there is no healer, then go heal, dont expect people to do it.

Nothing wrong with having smaller team amounts in a class based shooter. If you're having problems with pub games, DON'T PLAY FUCKING PUB GAMES, IT'S THAT SIMPLE. Play in a team where you can communicate and coordinate where you'll then be matched against other teams of similar skill.

I rarely play solo pubs because there are always shitters who lock in muh favourite every game, every map, every mode, regardless of whether it works in the team selection or whether someone else actually wants to play it.

>Pick Roadhog on Ilios Well Map
>No on picks support
>At least we got Hanzo and Widowmaker amirite
>They don't kill anyone while I fuck the team up
>Eventually die because I'm the only one contesting
>Lose first round
>Same deal next round
>Play as Zarya
>Fuck the entire team up
>Winning second round singlehandedly with four gold medals
>Third round, same deal
>Get my shit wrecked by Reinhardt, Bastion and Junkrat
>Still no support
>Still Hanzo and TWO Widowmakers by now
>We lose since I'm unable to contest
>Everyone in my team says the team is retarded and is too dumb to hold the point for two seconds
>mfw I'm the only one to carry the entire team

What?

>win close match
>only 6 people vote at the end of the game

>Don't play pubs
>In a game with no community servers

Are you mentally retarded?

>TF2 IS BETTER BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL OBLIGATED TO WIN
>COMPETITIVE PLAY WHAT IS THAT?

>Team Fortress
>Competitive

Yeah having to ban 90% of the guns and restricting the teams so they can only play one stale metagame makes for a real competitive game

>playing "competitive" TF2

if you're actually any good, just wait for ranked mode because that will quickly put you with equally skilled players. if you're just a delusional shitter complaining about teammates while you suck yourself, well to bad, you're going to have to enjoy this lame ride for a while.

He means play with friends you autist

>play offense on temple of anubis
>go McCree, get 3 of the gold medals the entire time
>a mei of all people on offense starts giving me shit when their class pick is retarded and they did absolutely nothing all game
>they get the ball rolling at pointing the finger at me when I was the only one killing the widowmaker on the enemy team and actually doing other things too
>"lel you cant long range kill with McCree you're an idiot"

These people need to be nuked. I don't know who's to blame more, Meifags proving they're the worst kinds of people or other McCrees giving the expectation that left click doesn't exist

TF2 isn't a competitive game if those are the words you're trying to string together.

Yes people play competitively in their 6v6 autism fueld hyper meta that bans basically everything, but that doesn't make it built for competitions, retard.

>Friends don't play the game
>Can't make more friends that play because there's no community servers
>Have to send friend invites to every moron I play with in hopes that I'll make a friend to play with

Great game design it's like I'm playing a console FPS from 1999

Not even him but-

>The game requires you to play with friends to be good.

Autist or not, if a game does this, it's a pretty shit game.

It's a game, a pvp game even more. If people can do competitions of farts and burps and cake eating, then TF2 is more than competitive.

>Takes more skill and teamwork than any other shooter released in the last decade
>IT'S NOT COMPETITIVE YOU FUCKER YOU AUTISTIC FUCK STOP PLAYING GAMES I CAN'T PLAY

You have to be 18 to post buddy.

When tf2 came out it was pretty serious.

>Hitscan hero
>Can't kill people at long range

It was probably a Mei main that hasn't played 70% of the heros.

It's a team game. Every team game is better if you know your teammates. It's just like any sport or game.

Were you even old enough to play it when TF2 was released?

So how does this relate to what you said originally at all

>Is this what it feels like to play MOBA's
yes
thought you could argue it's the same for every objective-based multiplayer game

I'm telling you fucks lame Genji is the meta.

Then when he has ultimate you go in with Mercy on your back.

whatever is the purpose of weekly brawl? its atrocious!

>TF2 isn't competitive enough to be like my Counter Strike : RNG Operations!1!!!1!

But in TF2, you can play in a pub and have at least a descent amount of fun.

In Overwatch, one or two people can fuck over everybody.

If you have to rely on having friends to have at least a fun game, then you don't have a good game UNLESS you have friends to play it with. Three of your five other friends busy? Tough luck pal.

Never heard the term "Pug", before, what does it mean?

This.

People forget how serious tf2 was when it first cane out. No hats, No drops, No weapons other than the default. People actually played the game seriously. It was really fun and competitive.

No it just an autiam drop farming chamber. Hopefully when competitive mode comes out it will be like it used to be.

>The game requires you to play with friends to be good.
No, any team based game requires a competent team to have a good chance of winning. You can have bad teams of players, seeing as I've played against plenty in OW.

This isn't difficult to figure out.

>"Yeah well it was really competitive 9 years ago!"

Lmao dude

pick up group

its an old MMO term, just a random group of people basically, not a premade or necessarily coordinated.

>its an old MMO term
>WoW was my first online game

I played Overwatch Solo and had fun. TF2 is more of a shitfest, but if people dont unite and play together then it's just a shitshow. If nobody go heavy and Medic then the team lose 99% of the time on Payloads.

Nah, this is worse.

No double picking in MOBAs and the ults in MOBAs aren't nearly as I-win as they are here.

MOBAs also require strategy, on occasion.

>If you have to rely on having friends to have at least a fun game, then you don't have a good game UNLESS you have friends to play it with. Three of your five other friends busy? Tough luck pal.

Then take the initiative to play with people outside your friendship circle, or roll the dice and play solo and hope you get a good team.

All these TF2 shitters assuming you need friends to play with or else the game sucks are fucking colossal morons.

Just because it looked more serious doesn't mean people magically played it more serious, especially after the Sup Forums/FA related servers and mods got going.

it still is. isn't TF2 still in like the top 5 games with the most users?

free =/= good

>Worst team member
The one telling me what the fuck to do instead of doing it themselves.

Fuck you, if you what the team to have a rein then you switch to him and I'll play whatever hero you were.

for people who wanna mess around and spam ults
does this bamboozle you

>Shitters can't solo a payload as solider or demo

Good luck getting your fat ass and butt buddy anywhere close to your shit, fags.

More users doesn't make it more competitive. Like a 3rd of them are idling or trading and the rest are playing on public servers.

not that retard but it definitely was a bit more serious since a good number of old tf players moved into the game, the skill level was also very high for a bit, now its just a joke.

>Then take the initiative to play with people outside your friendship circle
Whoa yeah let me get some new friends on the community servers to play with later OH WAIT THERE AREN'T ANY

Maybe I should go play with the /vg/ trannies or Reddit faggots instead because the game makes it impossible to build a lasting community, so bazinga pay up $40 and stop bitching because it's your fault that PC FPS staples aren't in babby's first shootan.

MMO =/= wow you faggot


I've never heard anyone say pug in another genre, if you want to name another game the term is used in then go for it, if not fuck off loser :^)

Except as long as you aren't absolutely shit, you can carry your team in a pub in TF2. Why? Because there are 12 players, meaning the margin of error is lower.

Over watch has six players on a team. The margin of error, aka someone being shit, is much more damaging to the entire team.

if you can't get gud without communications than you're not my nigga

Nice quads, user.

I'm beginning to think that if my team has a Genji or Hanzo it's an automatic loss.

The skill level is almost the same now, and the stuff that's easier to do nerfs other essential elements of a class, so you trade in game making utility just to do some stupid bullshit differently or easier.

>Counter-Strike
>Quake 3
>Half-life MP
>Any online shooter released before WoW even existed

>Play widowmaker despite being unable to aim
I only do this when there's a turret or bastion my team is just unablestupid to deal with.

>widow on offense
that's not necessarily bad.

>Our team's Genji
That 11 year old kid who literally only watches Anime

>Enemy team's Genji
Literally Frank Jaeger incarnate

>Hanzo
I wish more people used his wallhack arrows.

it is actually, i stopped playing mobas some time ago and the complaints you fags have for overwatch its basically the exact same

and i mean the same

they already introduced skins before the game was even out and some people dare call it not a moba

>Join game
>First 4 lock ins are Genji #1, Genji 2#, Hanzo and Widowmaker

No. This is what it feels like to play a shitty TF2 ripoff.

>Play TF2 again for the first time in years
>Half the team is awful and doing nothing
>Lead the charge with Soldier and manage to get the jump on enemy team
>Team is able to take off their autism helmets long enough to clean up the enemy team and cap
>Literally cannot under any circumstances carry a pub in Overwatch because there's almost no skill outside of aiming
>Enemy teams can just pop their I Win buttons if someone is getting an edge on them


This game will be dead in a year.

>Play widowmaker despite being unable to aim

This is me. I'm shit at FPS games, but I really like playing snipers.

pick up game, playing with ppl you're not familiar with/don't know
depending on the game, it could also mean 2 chosen captains form their team by picking one after the other a player from the spectators

>complaining he can't single carry in a team based game
if you want to try though, pick mccree or widowmaker.

>Play Windowmaker
>4 Gold medals constantly clearing Obj
>Team cant get the balls to go in and finish up
>Blames me

>People saying OW will be dead in a year
>Worse case scenario I spent $40 for a year's worth of enjoyment

You're going to have to try harder to make me feel bad about buying this game.

>defense
>2 widow makers or 2 ninja guys
>1 hanzo
>guy who picks the bjorn, but puts his turrent in a shitty spot and/or doesnt upgrade it to level 2
>reinhardt that doesnt use his shield for the team

theres LITERALLY no reason for there to be more than one character on a team. Theres fucking 21 different ones and only 6 players. (other than multiple bjorn on defense) And i know its fucking kids picking them only because "hurr dey look kewl"

>theres LITERALLY no reason for there to be more than one character on a team.
don't you know the meta? double lucio, double winston.

How?

I like supports but the only support i think it is fun it is zenyatta. Would you guys be mad if i ended up picking him?

I'm not sure what i'm supposed to do as him too, staying on backline and tossing my orbs? I can't stand close to other people advancing because he literally dies in 1 hit from anything

>Widow on offense

It's a team based game with no tools for actually building a team unless you already have friends outside the game or squat in shitholes like /vg/ and reddit though.

It's not even on Steam, and if you want to get your Steam friends to buy it then you have to be "that guy" who bothers them on a regular basis to get into something they don't really care about, and at $40 fucking nobody is going to do that unless they're desperate for a TF2 knockoff, and from all the crappy design decisions in the game for everyone to see the people holding out aren't going to get into it unless Blizzard makes a shitton of changes, which they won't.

>theres LITERALLY no reason for there to be more than one character on a team.
If there are two Mercy and both buff a character, does the buff add up or would it be the same than with just one Mercy?

>route 66
>choose 76
>hanzo, widowmaker, and 2 genjis
>Me and DVa push the entire way
>4 gold medals, 3:03 of objective time
>93% o match on fire
>they commend the genji that was masturbating himself to reflects
Y tho

There are always lower levels that play widow maker and hang back, maybe getting 3 or 4 kills top. I've been in games where there have multiple people doing this. It amazes me that they don't seem to notice how they are not helping and their team is losing. If I'm playing mei, I just start blocking them with icewalls eventually

He actually said he was in the back of his teamates.

Playing against a team with 4-6 Torbjorns is such bullshit

>that guy who picks mercy and just switches to her gun and starts trying to shoot the other players and heals you as a secondary thing if he feels like it

You could heal and buff at once but no stacking AFAIK

Why waste money on a game with such a bad design that it murders itself within a year when you can just play all the F2P games that do basically the same thing

It's just a video game, who cares if you win or lose?

>playing a memeba game in 2016

You brought it on yourself. HotS was a clear indicator this game was going to be shit, and you fell for it.

The most infuriating teammates are the ones who whine all game for absolutely no reason like OP probably does.

The buffs are additive. +30% for the first, +60% with the second etc.

Using Mercy and Zenyatta, the results are multiplicative. +50% with the discord orb, +30% with the damage boost beam, total +95%.

>Get the game at launch
>Playing with 5 other friends
>Already getting bored of it
>Constantly being bothered to play all the time because I'm the odd man out

Playing this game is going to turn into a chore soon enough.