Without over exaggerating or le movie meme,name one thing bad about this game

Without over exaggerating or le movie meme,name one thing bad about this game.

Go ahead,I'll wait.

Framerate is very choppy in parts

Act 3

Bossfight on the clocktower

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No sexy MGS1 sneaking suit.
They gave Snake his young face, but he's still stuck with the old man suit, it's depressing.

For some reason he decided to make it end of a chapter cut scene, then mission briefing and finally the next chapter opening cut scene. Im pretty sure between some chapters is like 30 mins with no gameplay.


Having said that I love the game and have beaten it 30 times but holy shit did he fuck up putting the missions briefings in the game like that

Levels are too short. The first two chapters are the peak of the game's quality.

i bought it, and later that day my dad went to prison. fuck mgs4 guns of the poop-triots

PS3 exclusive

Extremely linear level design. No time to revisit locations and backtrack.

The rest of the game is not like Act 1 or 2. Seriously, all those cutscenes would be more tolerable if they had this kind of gameplay between them.

Too many cutscenes even by MGS standards. Poorly written even by Kojima standards. Gameplay, boss fights (still kind of lacking compared to the other three) and replay value mostly made up for it though. Still better than the abominations that were Peace Walker and MGS V though.

there's barely any unique objectives. you just go to point A to B without a hassle. at least in MGS1 you got to like have card keys or do something shits like that. that's missing in MGS4. you just head straight to the goal without any much challenge not counting those forced fights and boss fights by the way. there mediocre to be honest

You lose. You broke the rules.

Come back when you can read.

Story
Length
Bland color palette
Shitty plot
Raping the story from the previous games
Retcons
Giving BB the worst VA imaginable and fucking his face up
Loading times
Some of the bosses
Campiness turned into fucking cringe

Big Boss is still alive at the end, which pretty much undermines the entire course of events through the Solid series and makes the whole damn saga pointless as fuck.

What did I say that triggered you?

It's a third person shooter.

I don't care if taking the third person perspective is what's keeping it alive.

PW is objectively the best MGS tho

I hope no one falls to the bait above my post.

Acts 1 and 2 were the only parts of the game with compelling gameplay. after that it was all linear setpieces and movies.

>tell me why the game is bad without telling me why it's bad
Maybe you should go back to school first, kiddo

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Holy fuck,how am I only realising now just how retarded all of you are?

Also fucking Johnny and Sunny

More than any other Metal Gear, you can run through the game and win. There's no mission objective other than get to the end of the level.

>undermines the entire course of events
It was implied that BB is alive since MGS 1.

Before MGS5 i would say that the pacing is bad. Now i see that the game is almost perfect.

Gameplay as insubstantial as fuck after chapter 2.

Act 3 sure is bad but if we're being honest the final fight with Liquid/Ocelot is the greatest conclusion to any media franchise ever created.

Between act 3-4 and 4-5 is around 30 mins of cut scenes in both its not an over exaggeration

>Maybe you should go back to school first, kiddo
The cringe is real

the plot consists solely of explanations of plots to previous games, making the plot of MGS4 feel like shit

Too many cutscenes and not enough gameplay are its major problems. What gameplay is there is good, but there just isn't enough of it to make it better than the the first three. It's impossible to talk about 4 without referring to it as being "a movie", since it's the games biggest flaw.

It's too bad that you're too much of a fanboy faggot to realize that.

>I'm triggered

Oh well

Not when your big bossing it on the hardest setting. Only way to play 4. It made me love the game even more.

Didn't like that every NPC's accent was American, despite the fact that the PMC groups nationalities were clearly laid out: British, French, Russian, etc.

Not to mention resistance fighters, Middle East, South America, etc.

>the final fight with Liquid/Ocelot is the greatest conclusion to any media franchise ever created

why? It's a fight with literally no purpose to happen and it plays using controls that don't exist in the rest of the game. It has literally none of the strengths of the series besides the music and the UI.

Is that why you liked it, user? Because the health bars kept changing and music was playing and you remembered better games?

Octocamo was bullshit

It is not implied anywhere that big boss is alive at any point after the zanzibar land uprising in any game released before mgs4.

It's just a shitty twist for the sake of having a twist. Him being alive undermines liquids motivation of 1, which implies that there's even more Patriots fuckery afoot than was previously realized, to the point where EVERYTHING post Zanzibar is just a clever trick by the patriots. May as well say the whole thing was a dream at that point, it's fucking stupid.

MGO2 servers are down.

Act 3 is utter trash and Act 5 is too short

The on-rails segment was a huge mark against an otherwise great Act 2

THIS. The final boss of mgs4 is just a cheap Nostalgia bait that's abandon the core Stealth gameplay to turn into contextual qte fighting game

Maybe if you hate traditional MGS games. I don't see how any true fan could prefer V or Peace Walker to the first four games. The people that praise V in particular, always make me wonder if it wasn't their first MGS game.

>many cutscenes and not enough gameplay are its major problems.

Try to play on Boss and without tranq crutch.
There is more gameplay than in previous games.

Because it's 100% pure fanservice and that's literally the entire reason the MGS games are good.
If all I cared about was good stealth gameplay I'd just play Splinter Cell. It's better in every single way in terms of gameplay

the Solid Eye is too useful to take out of your item slot. You're at a massive disadvantage using the box, barrel, ipod or any item that isn't the Eye or noob rations.

The game can't fix this problem, so it exchanges it for an equal problem in chapter 3 by forcing you to use the transmitter

The game was half baked as fuck. I still get mad that the location names in this game are things like "south america" and "the middle east" when every other game has very specific locations (even if about half of them are fantasy)

Sub 20fps in a lot of places and 60 in others. Too jarring.

writing's especially bad
>adam and eve bullshit
>platitudes (like above) out the ass
>meryl and johnny rolling around on each other planning their wedding
>snake literally standing next to raiden saying "i'm a shadow"
>no more patriot AI interaction
>really takes a shit after act 2
>revisiting shadow moses is ruined by annoying fucking robots
>drebin & monkey sucks; exposition dumps after every boss fight
>no one speaks like a human being in this fucking game; fate, the apple, nanomachines
>should've ended with snake killing himself
>soundtrack has zero input from norihiko hibino
>no tomokazu fukushima

I'm not as sour as I used to be with MGS4. It's fun and playing a well realized "old man" in a video game is unique. I've also always loved the series realization of CQC and the ways the characters conduct themselves, through their military advisor Motosada Mori.

MGS1=MGS2>MGS3>MGS4>>>>>>>>>TPP>PW

>ignore this glaring flaw which ruins the entire "game"
ok bud :^)

>No true scotsman

Shut the fuck up faggot

>no true MGS fan

I'm sorry mgsv actually relied on being a video game instead of a movie game.

It added MGS3 to the overarching plotline of The Patriots for no reason, and possibly in the dumbest way thinkable.

I blame MGS3 for being a worthless filler homage, but MGS4 is the real stake in the heart.

It was a continuation of the worst MGS game. Ifitweren't forthe vastly improved gameplay it'd belong under a mountain of shit like 2, aka babies first politics.

Its a remake of the fight from MGS1, its the exact same thing. Was it that shitty in 1?

Yeah, you're right, I never even thought about that.

Weirdest one is the 'Europe' location, which is clearly Prague.

not sure if worth calling it the best i think it was alright spin off in gameplay perspective

Emulating this is gonna be a pain
The game is capped at 60fps while running at 30fps most of the time
On one hand it supports 60fps perfectly, on the other you need twice the power or you'll play at half speed
I just want 60fps MGS4, PS4 port when?

>Average MGS3 fan

Naomi

> cheap Nostalgia bait
Holy fuck how can people miss the point so hard. I bet you also didn`t like Raiden in MGS2.

the whole everyone you ever met in the series is in this game felt forced as fuck

explain it better then faggot

NA got the FACES version of the cover art instead of OP pic in the traditional style of MGS

You have 500 badass guns to choose from, with an immense amount of customization and you'll only ever use the three fucking non-lethal weapons.

MGS isn't about overarching plot. Each game is an individual work that expresses its own theme, Kojima is not documenting a series of fictional events. Mgs3 is not filler because every game is meant to stand on its own except maybe mgs4, which is the worst one for that very reason.

Are you serious? Mgs1 didn't rely on contextual qtes. That fist fight was based entirely in the core gameplay

Too bad it was bad video game with shitty repetitive gameplay and almost no boss fights or memorable moments to speak of. I know you probably think of yourself as a MGS fan after playing V on your pc for the first time, but the rest of us want nothing to do with your kind.

Stop it now just let me be a contrarian memer and irrationally hate things. If other people like something it can't be good!

>but don't worry, after a cutscene where snake uses the m4 or the handgun, he'll have it equipped over your chosen primary so you have to go into the menu and fix your backpack.

that shit pissed me off immensely during non-lethal runs

Dude I love Raiden and understand that mgs4 is backhanded appeasement of the people who didn't like mgs2. That doesn't mean mgs4 final boss battle doesn't suck

MGS4 uses its fanservice and nostalgia to tell a story, and its great.

>first mgs strawman

Shows that you only likes MGS because it was your secret Club of incomprehensible movie games that let you feel like an enlightened euphoric Fedora Tipper

>The Patriots
>Not an overarching plot

I cant even understand what you just wrote, he said the end fight of 4 is shit but its a call back to the fight in 1 so I was curious if he didn't like the fight in 1 as well. No meme there at all just curious

It does a shit job of both since it fucked up the gameplay.

Why don't you go crawl around a desert for 12 hours.

>PS4 port when?
I'd be the first one to buy it if it ever came out
I loved that game

and it turned out to be a pretty bad video game, all things considered
unless you think "clear minefield 08" and "eliminate heavy patrol 12" is fantastic game design

mgsv probably could've had a better shot if it didn't go open world

it hardly is when they just redefine them to keep the story going

>they're a powerful secret group of men who control all information and have done so for centuries
>lol that makes no sense, it was actually Sigint and Zero. See? The story's all perfectly wrapped up now

The Patriots were originally never meant to be explained numbnuts. they were specifically included in MGS2 to be an unknowable organization. The very nature of the Patriots and Cipher change within each game to fit that individual theme.

the ending was garbage outside of that it's better than 2 and pw

There are only special move qtes in the fight most of the fight is fist to fist fighting combat. They also changed up the gameplay in 2 giving you sword combat all the games have stuff like that

>MGS6
>the patriots were actually time traveling Huey all along trying to prevent otacon from being born

The gameplay is also best in series.

Always thought Zero and co being the patriots was an intentional cop out for those who demanded explanations for MGS2

I'd be okay with that.

>Huey pushes himself down the stairs

Any part of act 3 that isn't the opening cutscene with snake and Meryl. Argue with that, you can't

That's exactly what it was. Everything in mgs4 is Kojima giving the shittiest answer possible to please idiots who didn't understand mgs2

So many people refuse to understand that MGS is not about a timeline it is about a series of individual games that's cover a different aspects of identity combined with meta-commentary on the nature of video games themselves

pretty much every "nanomachines" moment in MGS4 and all the powerpoint presentations making everything in MGS3 important (EVA was Solid and Liquid's mother, for one) felt like that

Infiltrating the same outpost and fulton extracting the same bunch of cunts for the 50th time is not good game design. I think you meant to say that it has good mechanics, because that's all V has going for it.

When I think about it it really does suck

>Kojima makes MGS1 a generic action movie with the main character being a complete rip off from an action movie
>Make MGS2 to dissect Americas obsession with action stars and go as far as name snake the movie star you ripped him from
>Realize people aren't that smart and most of them actually like MGS1s story more than 2
>MGS3 is him going "ok you like action movies? Well here is james bond MGS"

I feel like thats how the series went. I consider 1 and 2 to be the same game, you cant experience 2 the way your suppose to if you haven't played 1 first. The rest of the games in the series are the result how people reacted to 1&2

Even if you take out the open-world shit and boil mgsv down to its most basic missions it still provides more content that is a lot more substantial than in any other MGS game.

I can't. It's literally one of my absolute favorite games of all time and people are way too fucked up an unappreciative about it.

>The game has more content
>I mean its shit but at least theres more of it

2 seemed more of an exploration on the purpose of a sequel and the expectations involved, and the meaning of the player in the context of the game, though the blind idolizing and hero figures is a part of it

That seems a little smarter than how they were really thinking.

Explains a lot , no idea why he felt the need to tie everything together , a lot of it seems even sillier now that 5 retroactively made Zero remorseful

More content, yes. More quality, hell no. The boss fights in 1 and 3 are far better than anything that V shits out in its hundred hours.

I think you mean MGS1-3 are your favorite games of all time and MGS4 is perfect nostalgia bait for someone that liked the series.
Sorry there's just no way someone could truly like MGS4 on its own. If 1-3 didn't exist it's a terrible game.

Boss fights are nice but they are not the core of a stealth game experience. And I genuinely believe the sniper skulls on Extreme are among the best bosses in the entire series.