NVidia BTFO

>Kicking off at this moment is AMD’s Computex 2016 keynote. The company has multiple announcements scheduled this evening, but we’re going to jump right into an area that has been of extreme interest for many of our readers: GPUs

>Ahead of this evening’s event, AMD sent out an email to the press teasing the first of their discrete Polaris architecture based cards. Called the Radeon RX 480, AMD has unveiled much of the product’s specifications, but also its price and availability. When the card hits the streets on June 29th, it will be starting at the crucial mainstream battleground price point of $199.

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go away with your AMD Poolaris, Rajeet

Enjoy your shit optimization in games

the price sounds awesome, but I want to see some fucking benchmarks before I decide wether to get hype

Getting a 1070 regardless unless this thing can even come close to the same performance.

Damage control

$200 card that beats a 390/970

wew lad

Pretty excited to see what the fucking 490 can do

Hes right. On some games, you get lower performance than Nvidia cards on release. It gets much better after AMD releases new drivers and devs realease patch for their games. I'm still buying an AMD card thought.

>not proving him wrong
>just spaming shit
Good Job dude, you really showed him!

POOS ON SUICIDE WATCH

Performance.

Might get a pair.

If they are still doing the never settle thing. I could use 2 more ships in star citizen

>It gets much better after AMD releases new drivers
kekek haha literaley never happen's lololol!

i would buy one instead of 970 but amd makes terrible linux and opengl drivers.

>AMD
>drivers

>I could use 2 more ships in star citizen
>Buying anything other than a starter

*That beats 980 and borders into Fury territory.

It'll probably perform around the quality of a 970. You can quote me on that.

i hate this news so fucking much
its going to kill bitcoin

>damage control

Not really impressive considering the 970 came out like 2 years ago for about 130 or so dollars more. So this is just your normal adjustment.
If it outperforms the 980 then it would be something.

DX12 and vulkan won't need per game optimization.

Only thing Nvidia can do is push devs to not use async compute.

probably half that lolkek

>r9 390x

yawn
on par with a 970 then

fuck off

still buying a 1070

Wow a $199 GTX970.

NVidia BTFO. Who needs 1440+ gaming when we can do 1080 @ 60fps for $199!

Preordered, thanks OP!

I really doubt it will beat a 980 m8. Regardless the amount of tflops, Polaris can't be 'that' good. It would be like skipping 2 generations.

Also how fucked would the pricing on older cards be? If a 480 beats a 980, that means a 390/970 would drop to like $120 price point. I really doubt that's going to happen.

Haha no

pcgamer.com/amd-radeon-rx-480-shoots-for-value-at-200/

>390x
>on par with 970
Is this what 970 owners tell themselves to justify their bad choices?

The 970 is a 1080p card. It chokes beyond that.

biased garbage, 970 is objectively better

why would i buy a card that is at 61% when i can get a card that is at around 80?

Based Hd 7970/280x

It's true, Fallout 4 comes to my mind.

I had 0 problems when i had my hd 5770 (apart from one time that i overdid the overclock and windows crashed everytime thanks to it, but i kinda think it was my fault). But now, with my gtx 760 i still fear every new driver release. I'm still using the one released i n April or May of last year, since the new ones forced me to reinstall windows. Not even DDU could help me.

That's because 970 is shit. I'm playing games at 2560x1440 just fine on a 390.

that's an average of 16 different games. It's the least biased benchmark

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because you can get two for less than what the other costs

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There were two batch of cards that had their benchmark leaked a day before the event.

Just an hour ago (or so), it was confirmed the 480 was the C7 variant. So that leaves the C4 variant as the $149 version card.

Notice the C4 variant outperforming 970 by quite a margin? The C7 variant is between 980 and Fury. That would mean the performance is in between those two.

Now step back a moment and think for a second. Remove those two cards from the list, and you get something like this.

>1080 > Titan X > 980 ti > Fury X > Fury > 980 > 390X > 970

This is exactly how a real world gaming performance would be on average right now. If you check almost any game, this would be how the gaming benchmark would show as.

This isn't much, but if you simply assume that the chart is correct, then the 480 would indeed be better than 980. Now there might be few games where 980 beats Fury, but overall Fury is the better card. So in theory, the new 480 will be better than 980 in most games but 980 might beat/tie it in few select games.

As for the C4 variant, thats probably a RX470. The R9 390 might drop out of market and the used cards might go around $120 or so.

because the 80 costs almost twice as much as 61. Not worth the dosh.

>sweatingnvidiots.jpg

That much of a price drop is crazy though compared to relative performance. When the 3xx series came out it was lackluster as fuck because a 290x and a 390 are basically the same card. Fury/x is still too high a price point for it to be "amazing".

But when shit like this happens it throws EVERYTHING out of whack. AMD drops a $200 superclocked 970/390, ALL the prices for EVERY card go down. Brands like MSI, XFX, Sapphire, etc start panicking to figure out how much to sell their old shit for and you wind up with stuff like how I got a 290x LIGHTNING edition for $250 brand new.

These are good times my friend.

AMD fags celebrate price points because that is the literal only thing they can talk about in these threads. They're like a Smart Car on the autobahn getting blown away by a Porsche while going "HAHA YOU MAD THIS CAR WAS CHEAPER YOU IDIOT"

Dude, synthetic benchmarks.

Come the fuck on.

>970
>$130

Yeah, no

>Get 2x 480 for around a GTX 1080 performance for a fuckton of money less

Why wouldnt i do it?

Pc is a joke.

If it performs as a 970 then it will be perfect
$200 for a 970 I cant really complain
$400 for two cards that out perform a 980 im sold

yeah i know alot of games run worse on crossfire but I imagine we're talking mostly AAA titles

I think youre pushing it to have even equal performance to a 980

AMD arent trying to keep up with nVidia anymore by the looks of it

They seemed to have taken the fact that nVidia will always be ahead to their advantage and are now focusing on poorfag market

l2read nerd

>$130 more

Because CF is a meme until DX12/Vulkan become standard.

>cheap
>strong

Perfection

not even that guy but

>130 or so dollars more
>130 + 200 = ????

What happen to people who buy shits at reasonable price instead of cashing out on the expensive shits in the market?

My bad
Still shit considering the new AMD card does the same for a cheaper price

I misread, sue me

>I've had zero problems
>works for me!

I think two 480 will perform like a 980 or 980ti
and also alot of games have poor/no support for crossfire/sli

but for $400 why the fuck not

You have to remember that this is Sup Forums and $60 for a game is blowing the budget for most of the people here

I'm still waiting for the 490x or 1080ti

someone wake me up when the 490x comes around

>That's because 970 is shit. I'm playing games at 2560x1440 just fine on a 390.

not everyone enjoys games at 1440p 30 fps

what's Sup Forums's opinion on all this mess? do they have 24/7 nvidia shills too?

Sup Forums will tell you to never go crossfire/SLI over a single card. If you have 400$, you get a 400$ equivalent single card. Heat alone is a good reason to just go with a single card.

Again, read the remarks. Synthetic benchmarks, but the results align exactly with how a real world benchmark would be.

There are some games like Ashes of Singularity, Hitman, Absolution where AMD cards would dominate. There are some games with gameworks where nvidia would dominate. The average is somewhere like this.


You can check the 3d marks score site and the results averaged out would be something similar to this benchmark result. So basically, the 480 would be more or less be better than 980 given the average. YES, some games it would suck against 980 and some games it would compete with 1070, but the average would be just above 980. This is almost a foregone conclusion at this point.

14nm and 16nm are new production processes. it will be some time before the big cards reach consumers. Don't expect anything before 2017

Ok so

I have an old PC witha 550 in it

Is this card a good upgrade value? Or should I grab one of those EVGA 970s for 200 on newegg?

I find nVidia software easy to use but AMD is far more reliable imo. Shit constantly breaks with nVidia 9/10 youre better off using the graphics drivers that come on the disc that same with mobo/graphics card.

AMD settings can be annoying when you need to find a specific option but they have it all

nVidia although easy to navigate just shitty have multiple apps for one piece of hardware

>Cards getting more and more powerful, while consuming less power
>Games require more and require powerful rigs
>Meanwhile the games themselves don't look much better in comparison to a few years ago

the 980ti came out about 4-6 months after the 980 revealed. Since Nvidia released the 980 this time 2 years ago and the 980ti previewed that fall its likely that the 1080 comes out now then the 1080ti comes out this fall too

See

Dude, you're suggesting AMD is going to release a $200 equivalent to their Fury? The Fury is still $550 god damn dollars. There is no way in hell dude.

I guess we'll have to see how the 480 performs before buying a single card is worth

because if its of actual price to performance value then maybe two 480's is better than a single $400 card.

But we cant know fo rsure until the card is released

pls respond

>would drop to like $120 price point. I really doubt that's going to happen.
That almost never happens, they even become more expensive for some reason.

the 1070 is right around the corner and is expected to take the 970's original price point of 400 dollars

the 1060 will be out later this year as well

980ti was the last 28nm card to be released and based on a previously released Titan.

the first 28nm card was the 680 and it took almost a year before a Titan on the same architecture was released. Another 9 months before there was a Ti version of Kepler.

Wait until the card comes out and we have performance specs

then deicde wether or not to go 970 or 480
Also if you wait for release 970 price will go down [hopefully]

If you buy a 970 in the current year, you're retarded.

but its not a kepler, the 980ti is a maxwell

They said, in their words, their $200 card will compete with $500 cards.

The (1) benchmark shows the card right below Fury and above 980.

Put the two together, and you get a "destructive", their word, card this generation.

AMD wants to disrupt the nvidia dominance with this card. This is exactly the same thing they did with the 4870 HD back then. Its a repeat of history again

>t. AMDcuck shill

No, you never go crossfire over a single solution. Crossfire is for nerds with 300$ towers and liquid cooling solutions. You are just a basic user. You can't handle the heat.

>almost same performance as gtx 980
>8GB of VRAM for better future high res texture suppot
>DX12 architecture support (i mean who gives a fuck tho really)
>150W TDP. ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY.

FOR $199!!!!! I mean seriously, I don't think any card on the market provides even close to that much performance per dollar. It's pretty insane.

>GTX 1080 can't even handle true DX 12 games with async at 60fps
maximum kek
youtube.com/watch?v=TyeSWceptY8

>Literally no difference between Low settings and High settings in games like The Division and DS3.
Why is this allowed?

Maxwell was released when 28nm was already a mature process. It is not comparable to Pascal.
Pascal being the first 16nm generation is comparable to Kepler, i.e. the first generation on the 28nm node

We've hit the point in gaming where graphics really can't go much farther. The graphics wars of the last 20 years are done. Now Nvidia and AMD are struggling to sell stuff like before so they have to hock on a ton of worthless shit and make gaming companys program for it just to make people buy new cards.

Look at how Nvidia is making their drivers lock out their old cards now, they've resorted to cheap frauds to keep their hardware selling. Capitalism at its finest I tell ya.

why? the 970 keeps up just fine
Hes hasnt stated what res hes playing at, im assuming 1080p so 970 is still a boss.

There arent many games that the 970 cant run at max at 1080p

and when the time comes tha you have to change settings from high to medium

buy another

The 8GB version is I think $229. The 4GB version is $199.

>why? the 970 keeps up just fine

>2x the price of a card that performs the same

???

AMD just announced a card that offers better performance than a 970 for $200
Unless you can get a 970 for $150 there is no point.

Look, I think AMD are total bros with all the open source shit they do; but no way in fucking hell, no way in this fucking UNIVERSE are shareholders going to allow a brand new product to destroy their previous investments.

You're living in a meme dream.

>implying desktop computers actually get hot enough to thermal throttle

unless you live where its hot or have a heater on

or just have shit ventilation/fan setup

your pc wont over heat

But i live in new zealand so temps are fine here

That makes more sense, but you're still only paying 30 dollars more for DOUBLE the VRAM; the same amount of vram the gtx 1070 and 1080s have.

Because it's about to less than worthless in comparison to both Nvidia and AMD offerings.

If you're a complete semen slurping Nvidiadrone and want something at that price point, wait for the 1060 which will wipe the floor with a 970.

This whole generation of cards is a major step up from the last. These aren't shitty rebrands.

>Pascal being the first 16nm generation is comparable to Kepler, i.e. the first generation on the 28nm node
Some late Fermi GPUs were built in 28nm, mostly for laptops I think. But yeah, I expect next year Nvidia will have an even more efficient GPU built on the same lithography.

Shareholders want something different. AMD will continue to lose market if they keep pussyfooting.

I think shareholders want this type of disruption and market share more so than simply releasing weak performing cards @ $200. That won't gain any traction with 1070/1080's stronger approach. I was actually considering 1070 myself @ 380 but given the 480 glimpses, there is a great chance that this will be this generations' 970 and with much more mass market appeal.

Yes, my mistake, the new AMD card WILL be better as it is newer and will have better support

but IF he could get a 2nd hand one of craigslist or something for $150 then it would be asolid deal

Thats why i said wait until new card is realeased so the 970 price is justifiable

My single 390 XFX reaches 75c at load in 26c ambient temps. Open case, plenty of headroom. If I stuck another 390 in there my shit would implode.

Don't buy dual cards user, I'm warning you.

Why would he try to prove wrong a guys baseless argument?

>Enjoy your shit optimization in games
That is a baseless argument.

I am never going to buy an AMD product. AMD is like the chinese knockoff of Nvidia graphics cards and Intel CPU's. They run hotter, have no driver support, and use more power.
I've built PC's professionally for the past 5 years. Yes, when people are looking to buy a budget build, I recommend an AMD CPU and graphics card, but it's only a temporary and short term solution to a more optimized build.

Why do all you faggots care so much about what company you buy from? Why don't you just buy the card that fits your system best? You're all fucking retarded. If this card performs better, or close to the same than the GTX 1070, you can bet your ass I'm going to pick it up.

I would not be so sure the $150 used 970 is great at this point either.

Check this benchmark The C7 is 480 the C4 is most likely 470. Its going to be ~$150. Stronger than 970 and half its current price. So a used one at $150 might not even be a good buy.

These are however speculations, we still need to wait for more comprehensive benchmarks. However if its even remotely close to the benchmark, this is gamechanging.

Shareholders will get mad if AMD stays behind nVidia by a year

If AMD can rake in cash by selling to poorfags then its working

also new cheap card will make their other cards cheaper meaning they sell more product

they are looking at selling more here

youll get more by selling $200 cards to a billion poorfags than you will selling $1000 cards to a million rich guys