Is the Witcher high fantasy or low fantasy?

is the Witcher high fantasy or low fantasy?

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it's low brow misogynist entertainment

High. It doesn't take place on earth. This question could have easily been answered by a cursory Google search, but I'm guessing it's a lame attempt at starting an argument due to your ignorance on high vs low fantasy. Because you're an idiot.

High cutscenes low gameplay

low fantasy takes place on earth? i thought it was where there wasnt much magic

Its high fantasy that fell down in the mud.

High fantasy can take place on earth, it would just be an earth with magic and shit.

High Fantasy with more detail put into it than most fantasy stories ever would give a shit enough to.

What are some popular examples of low fantasy? Because even LotR where we see relatively little magic is considered high fantasy? I mean Gandalf, Saruman and that dude we barely see are the only mages left, is it considered low fantasy with only one mage?

It's garbage fantasy at best

No, it has to be a setting outside of our own world. Harry Potter is low fantasy, and most people don't seem to know that Lord of the Rings is also low fantasy.

Middle Earth is Europe in the distant past.

witcher is low fantasy there aint much magic and there is gritty war in a bleak world where things are shitty for most people.

So Game of Thrones is high fantasy then? Get a load of this ignorant.

How come Geralt takes less damage from a punch from a rock troll than he does from Peasant Fistfigher #7?

didn't know there were elves in the past

low fantasy doesnt have to be on earth.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_fantasy

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in poland :DDD

also

>Role-playing games use a different definition of the genre, defining it as closer to realism than to mythic in scope.

id say witcher is low fantasy based on this defintion.

Yeah, the shadow demon babies, resurrections from the Lord of Light, Dragons, Children of the Forest, the White Walkers, and the Faceless Men are all low fantasy.

;^)

Yup, you're retarded.

Friendly reminder that if you don't use Manticore armor you're officially shit-tier

Lotr as a story is low fantasy, the tolkien universe is high fantasy. A low fantasy story is generally one where magic is present but it's the core aspect of that story and world, like Lotr or Asoiaf. Something like the malazan book of fallen saga, which is very gritty, political and character driven, is considered high fantasy since magic is the core aspect of the story and world.

That's because you haven't actually read Tolkien. The Legendarium is an alternate earth history that Tolkien invented.

It's cynical/post-modern high fantasy. I don't remember the youtube reviewer that said it, but yeah it's basically Shrek.

This is a compliment btw

>this miracle is less impossible than this other miracle!
Magic in GoT is rare and far between, even the author said that the final books despite going full magic will have much less magic than most fantasy stories. It's low fantasy.

>Middle Earth is Europe in the distant past
No it isn't

can't believe how great it looks, brings back happy memories

>they bring back the best armor but not the best music track

youtube.com/watch?v=I2WUZ8X4C5o

have you ever read the Ainulindale? it is very clearly not our world
the legendarium STARTED as an attempt to explain the "forgotten origins" of our world, but evolved from that

witcher is full magic bruh! you cray-cray dawg?

It's a world full of monsters and magical creatures, just because the characters are not absolutely good or absolutely evil and fuck all the time doesn't make it low fantasy.

low because magic is rare and hard to do

medium fantasy

>malazan book of fallen saga
These any good? I have them in the backlog.

Low-fantasy is typically fantastical things happening in an average world. Unbreakable and American Gods would be good examples of low-fantasy.

I don't understand any of these definitions or categories. High Fantasy, Low Fantasy, Sword and Sorcery, Middle Fantasy, what the fuck is all this shit? What's Tolkien? What's Arthurian Myth? What about the Greeks? Discworld? Fuck you.

I've read through the first three books and I enjoyed them.
My favorite was the second -- Deadhouse Gates.

It has to be high fantasy. The world was ruled by mythical races until the conjunction of spheres which brought in humans and magical beasts.

The wild hunt are ancient elves from another dimension.


Ciri travels through time and multiple universes.

That's wrong, low fantasy is a setting within the limits of a rational world, it just so happens that earth falls within this category because to us it is the prime example of a 'rational world', mount and blade is clearly low fantasy but isn't set on earth.

it's fantasy written by an anthropologist so it goes real in-depth with the civilizations and shit but it's super high fantasy where it gets like DBZ

once you realize that fantasy is all the same shit, you go to sci fi specifically space operas and stuff like that. alistair reynolds, pete hamilton... etc.

still waiting on that commonwealth tv series... after that games in the setting are inevitable.

I'd probably say High Fantasy with Geralt as the protag.

>a human who got mutated into a Witcher by Kaer Morhen alchemical masters, using now-lost magical techiques, who quaffs potions/uses magical hand gestures to fight monsters

If was Siegfried was the MC I'd say low fantasy. That nigga was just an average human knight who fights monsters using nothing but the BURNING PASSION that is in his heart.

>baiting this hard

Slow day?

Magic is rare and low key because dragons have died. Now that dragons are back, magic is coming back too.

And besides, there's places like Asshai where magic hasn't died.

>I have no knowledge in this particulare field, therefore fuck you
o.k

Welp. It sounds interesting, but the DBZ magical shit sounds off putting. I remember starting to read Sabriel, all excited due because of necromancy, and the first few pages were already too high on the magical shit for me. Dropped it almost immediately.

Guess I'll try the first book and see how it goes.

REMINDER: The terms High and Low refer to setting, not fucking content.

That's why Thomas Covenant is high fantasy, despite the main character being a whiny, leprosy riddled rapist.

The first book is so far the worst that it's not even funny.

Recommend me some good sci-fi books, senpai. I only have the Hyperion Cantos in the backlog (is it even sci-fi?) but don't know where to get started.

Cyberpunk, space cowboys kinda like Firefly, whatever you have.

Sci-fi gets the same way man, there's pulp sci-fi, retro sci-fi , "raygun gothic", hard sci-fi, """speculative fiction""", space opera, space fantasy, and so on

Witcher is high fantasy but does a good job of making the fantasy parts have a real impact on the lives of those in the fictional world.

It's probably my favorite fantasy saga, read it if you enjoy intricate character driven plots and political shanenigans. It's pretty high fantasy tho', magic is very powerful, but there are no special snowflakes, many power players around to keep things balance, a lot of strategy involved.

Have you read Red Rising?

The audiobook for that series is astoundingly good.

The book itself is 7/10.

Personally I think dust of dreams was the weak link.

Really good shitpost

Anomander Rake is pretty edgy.

What kind of stuff do you like? How crazy do you want to get?

>audiobook
Are these actually good? I have no idea why I would get one instead of reading on my own. But no, haven't read it.

>Low fantasy is a subgenre of fantasy fiction involving "nonrational happenings that are without causality or rationality because they occur in the rational world where such things are not supposed to occur."[1] Low fantasy stories are set either in the real world or a fictional but rational world, and are contrasted with high fantasy stories which take place in a completely fictional fantasy world setting with its own set of rules and physical laws.

Both Witcher and ASOIAF are high fantasy. In the Witcher, Destiny and Prophecies are an actual tangible force that can be studied and manipulated in a way and ASOIAF has, besides magic, monsters, dragons and a magic steel, seasons that last for decades.

Its also a multiverse-like,

The Witcher world itself is literally formed from the combination of multiple worlds.

I'm a pleb as far as literature goes. I like magic just fine, but only when not abused. I have my videogames for retarded amounts of magic, raining meteors upon my enemies, and power level comparisons.

For books, I'd rather have it much more mild. I really like ASoIaF. Magic is treated just fine in there for me. It happens, but it's not over the top. Or the Kingkiller Chronicles where magic is more like a very intricate science, and the "true" magic is pretty much forgotten and nobody uses it. I liked Bram Stoker's Dracula when I read it years ago, ignoring the shit ending.

Does that help?

>What's Tolkien
Low fantasy

>What's Arthurian Myth
Low fantasy

>Greeks
An ethnic group native to Greece.

>Discworld
Comic Fantasy

Now was that so hard?

I primarily listen at work, so there's that.

Also, a great reader can add additional depth or color to a story, especially when they work with the author.

Key examples would be Micheal Page in The Lies of Locke Lamora, Stephen Pacey in The First Law or Tim Gerard Reynolds in Red Rising.

Especially in Red Rising, there's a sort of cultural change the protagonist undergoes. The reader showcases this with the inner monologue of the character being in his original accent and his spoken dialogue in a different one. It's very well done.

Not to mention that a reader can give better timing than you might while you read.

And this doesn't even touch the ridiculously enjoyable and cheesy full adaptations like Graphic Audio.

They aren't a replacement for books, they're just a different way to experience them.

Fuck that song, no love lost on that not returning

>Tolkien Low Fantasy
Can you please tell me your reasoning?

High fantasy but set in a world where fairy tales actually happened and science coexists with magic. It might be a gritty setting with politics, and you don't see magic everywhere, but the influence of things like the supernatural and Destiny is very real. There's also a lot of references to the real world and anachronisms.

Shit I'm listening to Morning Star right now. Real fucking good, I love the guy who does the audio. His voice work is amazing.

Yes, audiobooks are fucking awesome because it allows you to do other shit. Things I do while I listen to a book:
Drive
Shower
Lay down to sleep (in the dark)
Playing video games that aren't heavily dependant on sound
Take walks/runs/hikes

etc. Audiobooks are nice because they don't demand your full attention like a book does. I still like books but audiobooks are inherently superior. Plus a lot of the times the monologues that the audiobook authors do are better than my own inner monologue.

First Age Arda is absolutely high fantasy

>Tolkien
>Low Fantasy

>Real fucking good
I enjoyed it so much.

Cannot wait for the sequel series, especially with all the hype shit that happened near the end.

As and have said, Middle EARTH (note the word earth here) takes place on Earth, specfically a European in the distant past. It has magic, but it takes place on Earth, which makes it low fantasy. Tolkien himself said it takes place in North West Europe.

I would say by the time of LOTR Middle Earth is definitely getting towards Low Fantasy, after all it was about all the mystical and wondrous things of the world fading away, it was the last hurrah of that sort of stuff before it became the more mundane world we know today

No, you're just retarded. Tolkien is archetypal High Fantasy.

I'll try Red Rising I suppose, thanks. Maybe I'll like audiobooks.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_fantasy
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_fantasy

It's 100% high, but its grittiness and realism makes it easily confused for low.

Opposite for Game of Thrones: it's definitely low fantasy, but it wouldn't be that hard for somebody to argue that it's high just because of the dragons and rare use of magic.

No, it's not.

>ctrl + f "A Song of Ice and Fire" on High Fantasy link
>3 results
user...

>Middle Earth is Europe in the distant past.

pirate it from audiobookbay. Audiobooks are super expensive and the book is really successful, so don't feel guilty.

Do fucking people not know this by now? Fucking go back to GoT you shithead.

It is you fucking mong. Tolkien himself has said so.

> audiobookbay

Shit thanks user, I've just been getting mine from piratebay or Kat and their selection is...not great.

>pirate it from audiobookbay. Audiobooks are super expensive and the book is really successful, so don't feel guilty.
I was going to when I saw it at $30+ on Amazon. Fuck that pricing.

Ironically, audible is the only good deal Amazon offers.

I use it for stuff not on audiobookbay.

Have all my (you)'s my man

this made me kek harder than it should have

Tolkien has said the fucking opposite. He has gone on record clearly stating that it has nothing to do with our world

You're fucking wrong.

> Letters 294: "...Middle Earth. This is an old word not invented by me, as a reference to a dictionary such as the Shorter Oxford will show. It is meant to be the inhabitable lands of our world, set amid the surrounding Ocean. The actions of the story take place in the North-west of 'middle-earth', equivalent in latitude to the coastlands of Europe and the north shores of the Mediterranean...Hobbiton and Rivendell are taken (as intended) to be about the latitude of Oxford, the Minas Tirith, 600 miles south, is about the latitude of Florence. The mouths of Anduin, and the ancient city of Pelargir are about the latitude of ancient Troy.", Letters, pg 375,376

Get fucked.

High fantasy = everybody knows magic exists
Low fantasy = nobody believes in magic, but it does exist OR there is no magic but it doesn't take place in our world

have... you never read any of the books or seen the maps? The world is shaped like a star

It's not just defined by magic. You can go high fantasy with a non magical setting and low fantasy wit a magical one, it's more about tone and scope.

I think you need some reading comprehension there buddy.
That quote doesn't say what you think it says

The entirety of LOTR is presented as a translation from a lost age of our world that we're lead to believe Tolkien himself found in some dusty archive and worked on himself.

he doesnt explicitly say that middle earth is our earth, only referencing the literal definition of the term

Keep telling yourself that buddy. Tolkien has routined said Middle Earth isn't a fantasy world.

> Letters 183: "I am historically minded. Middle-earth is not an imaginary world. The name is the modern form (appearing in the 13th century) of midden-erd>middel-erd, an ancient name for the oikoumene, the abiding place of Men, the objectively real world, in use specifically opposed to imaginary worlds (as Fairyland) or unseen worlds (as Heaven or Hell). The theatre of my tale is this earth, the one in which we now live, but the historical period is imaginary. The essentials of that abiding place are all there (at any rate for inhabitants of N.W. Europe), so naturally it feels familiar, even if a little glorified by enchantment of distance in time., Letters pg. 239"

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(You) deserve this

See

>The theatre of my tale is this earth, the one in which we now live

>the one in which we now live
>the one in which we now live
>the one in which we now live

One might argue that it's Epic fantasy...

>but the historical period is imaginary

Yeah and? Same as Conan and King Arthur, it's our world but an imaginary lost age