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Might and Magic is better

What's even happening here?

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Why does RPG suck so hard?

>open console
>toggle combat ai with 'tcai'
>take cherrypicked webm
Oblivion and Skyrim have the 'best' combat systems out of TES games. Doesn't make them not shit compared to Dark Souls for example though.

Things haven't changed all that much.

>just keep whacking away at damage sponges until they fall down
>no tactics required, just stats

nope, you can circle strafe anyone like that in the game
if you toggle AI i'm pretty sure they don't even follow you
>Doesn't make them not shit compared to Dark Souls for example though.
wew lad

>Oblivion and Skyrim have the 'best' combat systems out of TES games
Can you explain how? They have the best animations obviously but mechanically they're not much better. In fact I would argue they're worse since they don't integrate any kind of dodge/parry.

to this?

No, I remember confusing Arena combatants by strafing in a circle

Kek lol nozzle me zozzle lmao
Dark holes having a better combat system then elder scrolls

to this

to this

>this is a japanese kids show

You mean this?

>stupid and cheesy as fuck
>suddenly dismemberment with blood spraying
wat

>all hits stagger
Why is a 14 year old game more reactive than a game released in 2011, and that took 5 years to make.

Instead off complaining about the fighting system, tell us Sup Forums, how would you make a good RPG fighting system.

Holy fuck, this is brutal.

>MUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDA

shit overpaid as fuck coders who can't code physics in a game to save their family's life.
Bethesda should hire the coders from NBA 2k to do their physics and collisions because Bethesda is failsauce.

Detach the player from the action by using a perspective different than first person and build a system based more on character sheet than precise player input.

That is how you do RPG combat. If you want action, you don't want RPG.

Omg did that really happen in ultraman?

morrowinds combat was not as bad as people remember, it was just a table top dice roll style, and limited your weapons you had no skill in to misses rather than less damage.
after level 40-50 in a weapon skill you never really miss

Actually, the best non-magical TES combat goes to Online.

still could be a lot better though.

I'm curious where this logic comes from when Wizardry was one of the first if not the first party based CRPG which takes place in a first person perspective and works quite well.

It's a slightly different beast. It's hard to talk about first person when that "person" is a 6-man party glued together. That's already a layer of abstraction to hide behind, and then there's the fact that it's turn based, which means rng is expected.

Did someone say Online?

MM6 and onwards can be played realtime

>your entire party fugs the demon queen
lol

>Skeletal warrior just dies

Every TES game so far had shit combat

The TES games rank lowest in any possible combat in open world games because they have 0 deepth , are boring as fuck and just consists in Click Left mouse to win

Post the daggerfall vampire cage molestation webm

Holy fucking shit.

Stop...he's already given up....

How would fel to penitraite vagoo?

Like sticking your dick under the leg of your table.

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holy fuck, I just got spooked. please post trigger warnings next time

This seriously is very gruesome.

Is this a parody?

that's seriously pretty fucking brutal
this is a show for kids

>blood comes out
>and then it explodes
Ok.

I recently played Marrowind again (Got stuck and stopped playing but that's a different story) and yeah, combat was way better than I remember.
I tried to build a custom battlemage, and it SUCKED. Literally that mudcrab webm. I took 10 minutes to look at some quick guides, and the next character I made was slicing through enemies proper.

might and magic is better, ultima underworld is better but of course Sup Forums babbies only know betheshit

TES Arena and Daggerfall were pretty much just shitty ripoffs of Ultima Underworld with an empty open world slapped on top.

and fucking retarded guards that walk into walls constantly

What happened to RADICAL LIZZY?

And this is why I never made it further than the first city in Morrowind. First fucking mob literally would not get hit.

out of my way, elder scrolls fucking shits

the fuck is this and is it good?

youtu.be/KnxgQMSsc8c

What is this and where can I get it?

Yes

Dark Messiah of Might and Magic.
It's pretty good, played it again a few months ago and it still holds up.
Allthough you can pretty much abuse the dynamics to make it really easy.

Dark Messiah of Might and Magic (it's on steam)

And yes it's very fun

Praise Dark Messiah

Bootin' 'n' lootin'

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That level is fucking great

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>Skyrim

I thought that game only restricts to play as an Archer with emphasis on Stealth.

It's the only remotely fun thing, pretty much. People shrug off your puny magic like it's nothing and melee lacks any kind of oomph.

Fucking love The Quest, dev is pretty bro-tier and made changes to the game just cause a few of us asked on steam forum.

Damn that nigga's hands are really far apart.