What are your thoughts on this character?

What are your thoughts on this character?

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Just started dr2. He's chill, cool in my book

leave this thread, don't get spoiled

get out of here boy spoiler are coming

Literally me. Smart, handsome, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor.

I just buyed a pvc statue of nagito, grinned a little when i saw the extra hand on the bottom of the box

i dont like you

I enjoy the concept of someone going to the extremes to satisfy their ideals of hope, making them look like a madman in the process

also the idea of a character being perfectly fine with co-operating with a killer and even dying for them makes the game much more interesting, but unfortunately thats never used to its full extent

made the game

Pretty disturbing, insane character. He made the story a lot more exciting and interesting.

Literally the only worthwhile thing in DR2.

Also, dat laugh.

he was a help more than was a trouble

Literally did nothing wrong

2-1: trouble
2-2: trouble (barely helps in the class trial, only thing he figures out are the footprints which were a red herring, he's the one that convinced Mahiru to play the video game)
2-3: help
2-4: help
2-5: trouble

>(barely helps in the class trial, only thing he figures out are the footprints which were a red herring, he's the one that convinced Mahiru to play the video game)

You can't blame him for writers' incompetence.

That's not writer's incompetence, that case just isn't about him.

Having Saionji as a red herring added nothing, and just made it drag on longer. Honestly, who thought that it was her? It made no sense from a motive perspective (though, to be entirely honest, that flies out of the window by Case 3). All the cases had bullshit like that. They used used Komaeda as a means to cement that diversion and pad out the playtime.

What do you mean "added nothing"? The most obvious motive was Fuyuhiko, not Saionji. She fell into a trap.

It added nothing because it didn't expand on a character (like Togami's interference in Fujisaki's scene), didn't misdirect the player from Fuyuhiko (and why the asspull with Pekoyama? To get rid of her, I guess). It was totally meaningless, just some extra evidence to get out of the way until you continue through to the actual casework.

All the cases sucked, though. Except 3.

Chiaki a cute!

Carried the entire game. Best character.

expanded on Saionji, really it's the only Hiyoko-focused thing that happens in the entire game. It did misdirect the player from Fuyuhiko, who had the most obvious motive. It wasn't an asspull with Peko, that was her entire character. Just because you don't like the story beats doesn't mean they were a waste of time.

Nah, Peko was a shit character and the whole "tool lmao" was fucking terrible. It literally could have been anyone if they so wanted to.

Terrible case.

Literally did everything wrong.

They were a waste of time, though. No one would expect Saionji because her greatest character expansion was that she was too clumsy to tie her kimono sash, and got close to megadyke Mahiru for that reason. Fuyuhiko made sense, and they pointed so strongly toward him, that it seemed like that was the way they would get the player to suspect Saionji.

>Fuyuhiko wants to kill the megadyke because of the gaem.
>Can't be; is too obviously!
>Then it must be Mahiru, because the footprints.
>Wait! No! Pekoyama's actually an assassin and her sword was the clue! Plus, she was super wet when she came to the diner! It makes sense once you think about it!

It all makes sense, but the reasoning is an asspull, and the misdirections are all clumsy as fuck and just bloat the case until it's boring to go through. DR2 was just sloppy that way. If they handled Pekoyama better, then it would have made sense, but they had to pull it out of the ass that Yakuza Boy had his 'sword' to rely on.

under that reasoning any character could've been any character. That was Peko's character, it was consistent with her character, you're still not making clear what your problem is

>it was consistent with her character
0/10

>>Then it must be Saionji*

It's like Nagito implies in the first ten minutes of that trial. If Fuyuhiko was the blackened, it'd be the worst class trial in the series because he so obviously had the strongest motive. But his motive was so strong that he had to factor in somehow.

The misdirections weren't "asspulls", they were traps set up before Hiyoko even showed up.

Full disclosure: Peko was the only person I figured out was the blackened before the class trial in SDR2. So I especially don't think it was an asspull, it made sense because she's the only one that could've gotten the blood off.

>subservient character becomes the blackened to serve her master
how is that not consistent

He's unable to understand anything. He's a shitposter, leave him alone since he'll probably never understand something as simple as defining character traits.

>It's like Nagito implies in the first ten minutes of that trial. If Fuyuhiko was the blackened, it'd be the worst class trial in the series because he so obviously had the strongest motive.

Yeah, they hung a lot of lampshades. It was more of a:
>What we're doing is stupid, we know it's stupid, but we're going to do it anyway!
sort of deal.

>The misdirections weren't 'asspulls', they were traps set up before Hiyoko even showed up.
Yeah, unnecessarily, too. Who the fuck would suspect Saionji? It makes zero logical sense. It's almost as if it was just there to make the case drag out longer because they couldn't make it interesting without having some sort of contrivance, but also had to factor in the unrelated component to mirror the second case from the first game.

>The spoiler
Yeah, I had it figured out too, but it was stupid and it was dragged out. I went back on that assumption several times because of how little sense it made, and:
What the fuck was with the serial killer killer nonsense? That was totally unnecessary and stupid without knowing their relationship, which was totally unnecessary and stupid in the first place. It was just clumsy writing and bloat.

>that obvious samefagging
Holy shit.

>Fuck this shit, I'm summarizing this case
>still end up having to do the closing argument
Why

What did they do that was stupid? Fuyuhiko's a hothead and he just found out his sister got killed and Mahiru covered it up. His familial feelings and his Yakuza upbringing are telling him to kill Mahiru, but he's too kind-hearted in nature to go through with it until Mahiru pushes him. It's not an intelligence thing.
>Yeah, unnecessarily, too. Who the fuck would suspect Saionji? It makes zero logical sense. It's almost as if it was just there to make the case drag out longer because they couldn't make it interesting without having some sort of contrivance, but also had to factor in the unrelated component to mirror the second case from the first game.
Hiyoko was easy to lure because of her relationship with Mahiru. She was also easy to frame because of her connection to gummies. She's also a mean-spirited bitch so she could be a killer. Finally, she's not the sharpest tool in the shed, as she showed by refusing to tell the truth straight up. She made for a perfect patsy.
>the serial killer stuff
It was there to draw more attention on Peko, so that they'd vote for her. Her ideal situation would be them voting for anybody other than Fuyuhiko, with him as the blackened. That way he wins the killing game.

If you're talking about case 2-4 then you didn't pay any attention to what happened afterwards. New elements were introduced that Nagito hadn't considered, which is why the Closing Argument was necessary in that case.

Literally the only thing that happens between his argument and Hajime's is the PTA and the revelation of the Four Dark Devas

Fuyuhiko's motivations were totally right, I agree. That's absolutely correct, but it's also what makes the case so weak. Since his motivations are too strong, it would be impossible for the player to suspect him, since, duh, it can't be that obvious.

Regarding Hiyoko: the gummy connection is one of the weakest parts of the case, and a source of major confusion. That we're expected to assume the yellow gummy is lemon makes sense, but it doesn't make sense that there are 'no yellow gummies in the package' - the package graphic shows yellow gummies. As for the other parts, yeah, sure, we can argue that until the sun comes up, but it makes no sense in terms of storytelling other than giving us a reason to look away from Fuyuhiko for a half hour. Give us a better reason for that, instead of shoehorning in Saionji.

Again, it makes sense in the situation, but it's the situation that just doesn't work well. It's cheap, it's contrived, and it's only there to prolong things instead of having more interesting reasons.

It's still new information. Plus, are you saying you don't dig the theme that plays when the Closing Argument is played out, and that the comics are some of the best parts of a trial? Come on, don't be ridiculous.

also just to add on more evidence that this wasn't an "asspull", it's foreshadowed earlier in the game. Peko is the one who constantly brings Fuyuhiko back into the fold in the first chapter. Souda comments that she looks like an assassin in the first class trial. Hiyoko has a love of candy, etc.

And Owari mentioned that only a ninja could get in and out of the window. Forgive me, asspull was the incorrect phrase to use here, I'll admit that: it all makes sense, but it's not used right. It feels totally forced the way they used it.

Asspull is not the correct word, but the whole thing felt forced as fuck.

Funny enough that was less obvious and forced than Mikan's EVERYTHING and the soundproof room/hamsters pushing the button in Gundham's case.

>Fuyuhiko's motivations were totally right, I agree. That's absolutely correct, but it's also what makes the case so weak. Since his motivations are too strong, it would be impossible for the player to suspect him, since, duh, it can't be that obvious.
Which isn't a problem because Fuyuhiko spends approximately 0% of that class trial as the primary suspect. Whenever the mood could shift towards him, Peko changes the subject. They only figure out Fuyuhiko was even in the ROOM after the vote. They even come up with that weird ninja sword escape thing for Peko instead of the more obvious thing in my mind, that Peko and Fuyuhiko helped each other escape. I think Fuyuhiko's involvement was perfect in that case, you're supposed to be suspicious of calling him out because his motive is so strong. Even one of the characters essentially points that out, as I said earlier. Compare to something like the Celeste case in DR1 where she's the primary suspect before the murder even happens. That's a case of bad writing.
>Regarding Hiyoko: the gummy connection is one of the weakest parts of the case, and a source of major confusion. That we're expected to assume the yellow gummy is lemon makes sense, but it doesn't make sense that there are 'no yellow gummies in the package' - the package graphic shows yellow gummies. As for the other parts, yeah, sure, we can argue that until the sun comes up, but it makes no sense in terms of storytelling other than giving us a reason to look away from Fuyuhiko for a half hour. Give us a better reason for that, instead of shoehorning in Saionji.
I had no problem with the gummy thing. It's some stupid art error, the text box pretty much made clear there weren't supposed to be any yellow gummies. It's established she likes candy, it's established she likes Mahiru. Not only was she not shoehorned, I think she was created for that one part in that one class trial.

>Again, it makes sense in the situation, but it's the situation that just doesn't work well. It's cheap, it's contrived, and it's only there to prolong things instead of having more interesting reasons.
How am I supposed to come up with an argument against this? If you don't like it, you don't like it. But to me the character motivations make sense, everything is properly foreshadowed, the murder plan makes sense, and the characters don't come off as Jesus like figures or scum of the earth. Seems like the perfect DR case to me, and it's not even my favorite.

Oh, no mistake, most of the game is just like that. Mikan's whole motivation makes no sense, until we get down to it, even though the case is the tightest.

I'd argue that it's not: it's fine for us to expect Celeste in the beginning, and all the way through, since the whole point is to PROVE that they're the blackened. Having some ambiguity around that is fine, definitely, but throwing out a bunch of red herrings that you can justify, but are totally forced, just doesn't sit right. It feels like padding, especially when you do figure out who the blackened is, but have to cut through twenty different possibilities to do so.

So, Saionji literally just exists to be used as a tool in a case where any other red herring could be introduced? That's what I'd call an example of bad writing, and one of the fundamental flaws in DR2. Either the character is a one-note that exists just for one thing (basically, Maizono and Leon through the whole thing), or it makes no sense for the character to be the blackened until the EMOTIONAL BACKSTORY OF THE CHAPTER arrives.

>The murder plan makes sense.
Luring together the two characters makes sense, but it doesn't make sense to suspect the lured one: there's literally no motivation for Saionji to off Mahiru, it's far too obvious for the player, and makes just for padding. Why not lure the creepy nurse in, instead? There's different ways to handle it that wouldn't have come off as artificial as having Saionji suspected for killing her only emotional rock on the islands. Plus, let's factor in the backstory, which, while foreshadowed, is just stupid. Yakuza, that I can accept; the kendo master being just a tool for that Yakuza to swing around, just so we can have more sympathy for Fuyuhiko and maybe make one or two people shed a few tears at the shitty execution scene? Not really.

>even though the case is the tightest.
What the fuck, that case was horrible and with more holes than swiss cheese, I can't take you seriously if you genuinely believe this, I don't know whether to call you different or just retarded.

What you call red herrings are basically just ways the killer tries to get around getting called out in a class trial. In 1-3 it was basically everything involving Hagakure. I don't see how you can criticize the game for that, if the killer didn't try to throw people off THAT'D be worth criticism.

I disagree with you, it's perfectly fine to have a character serve a singular purpose. You mentioned Sayaka and Leon, they were there for the 1-1 case. Sayaka especially, I think, was a fully actualized character, and she might have less screen time than anybody in the series other than Mukuro. In Hiyoko's case, she's there to be the patsy in Mahiru's class trial. You don't need to be the blackened to have your character revealed, and as I said earlier most of Hiyoko's character beats come in that class trial.

Hiyoko obviously had a motive to kill Mahiru: to win the killing game. DR constantly plays on the dual-faced nature of man, I don't think it's irrational to suspect someone like Hiyoko of killing someone. I mean, the first thing you see her doing is killing animals. The game is trying to shift suspicion on her from the moment you meet her.
And I did feel sympathy for the "top three" in that case. Fuyuhiko for losing his cool and essentially leading to two deaths, including a person dear to him. Mahiru because she was caught in a shitty situation where two people died on her behalf. Peko because only right before the execution does she realize that she never had to be a tool.

All the evidence made sense and nothing was there to bloat the case. It wasn't boring, the logic was there, and its only flaw was that Mikan snapped and your only clues were that she was hot when sleeping on you, which, hey, have you ever had a woman sleep on you before? It is kinda stuffy.

Except the Hagakure thing didn't waste my time or bore me during the case. It was pretty well-done, since it led away from the actual killer, didn't totally distract from the main line, and could be discarded easily. There's no point in just bloating the time spent on a case, it's just clumsy writing to drag a twist on as long as it was this time. Hagakure's involvement took up the perfect amount of time for a red herring.

No, they already had come out: she liked candy, was foul-mouthed, and Mahiru was her sole emotional rock because the megadyke saw a chance to get some sweet lolibutt by tying a kimono sash.

>to win the killing game.
Yeah, everyone had that motive.
>dual-faced nature of man
Which was what Mahiru served with Saionji.
>irrational to suspect someone like Hiyoko of killing someone
Not her one emotional rock.
>first thing you see her doing is killing animals
Yeah, as a counterpoint to her cute exterior, because muh juxtaposition.

Fuyuhiko wouldn't have caused those two deaths if the motivations weren't so forced. Mahiru was just Mahiru, there's not much to write home about the megadyke, and the only reason they didn't off her before Twogami was because of the epic twist. Pekoyama's little moment of emotion was so forced that I couldn't help but cringe at how badly the writers were trying to MAKE me feel something.

>Literally the most obvious as fuck case since all the evidence points to Mikan
>Full of holes

Beyond retarded.

They still failed to explain how Ibuki stepped on a pool of blood like it was nobody's business
That's a huge plot hole

The Gullibility Fever. She was probably told to hang herself by Tsumiki, and had to step through Saionji's blood to do so.

I just don't buy your differentiations of the Hagakure stuff and the stuff in 2-2. They didn't "distract" from the case any more than that other stuff, whether you got bored by it is your own opinion.
To be frank, I didn't really see the depths of Hiyoko's love of Mahiru until the class trial and after. Until then she just seemed like a clingy kid with maybe a little something more there. But Hiyoko's relationship with Mahiru isn't the only characteristic about her, that only really lasts a chapter anyway.

>Everyone had that motive
and it's a powerful motive you can't discount with "she had no motive." Almost everyone has a motive at all times in DR.
>Which was what Mahiru served with Hiyoko
except both those characters are multifaceted. Mahiru is caring, responsible, and social. She's also a person who will cover up a murder. Hiyoko's a cunt, but she's got a softer side with people she trusts.
>Not her one emotional rock
I think you're overstating their relationship. Sayaka setting up Naegi in DR1 seemed to be a bigger betrayal to me.
>Yeah, as a counterpoint to her cute exterior, because muh juxtaposition.
or, as I said earlier, dual faced nature of men. See Monokuma.

Of course Fuyuhiko wouldn't have caused those deaths if he didn't have a strong motive, he's essentially a good person at heart. Mahiru was just as much made for this case as Hiyoko was, IMO. Not sure what to say for your Peko thing, I thought it was brilliant. Especially since she says about 5 minutes before that that she'll never fall to despair, and then she does before the execution even happens.

And she still didn't hang herself

For those comparing Saiyonji to Sayaka and Leon for being characters just there to fulfill a purpose, the purposes of Sayaka and Leon were to be impactful on the world around you.

Sayaka is shown to be a Maya-esque assistant to make you think this is a game like that and then BAM, she's the first dead

Leon is there to show that the students can and will kill, as well as be the one to show off the brutality of the executions in a more frightening way since there isn't much time to get attached to him.

Saiyonji doesn't feel like she has a real purpose as a red herring, and it's likely she would have gotten a little bigger one had she been a survivor like originally planned. That change in development just turned her into a rather pointless character.

>and Mahiru was her sole emotional rock because the megadyke saw a chance to get some sweet lolibutt by tying a kimono sash
Looks like someone misunderstands Mahiru's character. Mahiru is as traditionalist as possible. She is in no way a lesbian. Her father was super lazy so she projects those expectations onto every male person she meets. She just needs to realise that every male person isn't as lazy as her dad. Ultimately, she wants to be helpful towards those she cares about. That's what made her want to help Saionji: she just wanted to help her, which nobody else wanted to do. This is again consistent with her character.

Ibuki didn't commit suicide, she was strangled by Mikan. The only reason she was hanging where she was, was because Mikan lowered the rig so she could hang Ibuki from that hight. The only reason you remember the event like this is the short clip that Hajime (or rather, you, the player) saw, which obfuscated the entire situation. If you'll remember, the status of the rope didn't entirely match up with the story of Ibuki committing suicide at all. Despite the rope being brand-new, the middle part of the rope was clearly torn and used. The only explanation behind this is that Ibuki was strangled by Mikan first, and _then_ suspended by Mikan.

Hell, this is the only reason the candle is found at the Music Venue in the first place. To confuse the player. I must say, if you argue like this, it had a considerable effect on you.

Disagree, I think Hiyoko got a lot more development than Leon got. I don't think there's anything wrong with a character serving one purpose in this series, especially with the cast as big as it usually is. I think Hiyoko served her purpose well and I'm glad she got killed off for Fuyuhiko.

Best voice in the game.

Not either of those two posters, but why does it matter? Ibuki was in the room with somebody who just got killed. The blood on her shoes were used as evidence to show that Mikan is trying to obscure the order of the deaths. How she got it is immaterial; we don't know what was going on with Ibuki in her last moments.

...

The Hagakure stuff in 1-3 didn't overstay its welcome. It could have been handled a bit better, but, still, it never dragged on.
Saionji clearly relied on Mahiru, and after her death she was devastated. That's why she ran past the diner in tears instead of telling anyone. Also, if it just lasts a chapter, why have it there except to fit the case in somehow?

>and it's a powerful motive you can't discount with "she had no motive."
Except she had all the motive to not kill Mahiru: her emotional dependence.
>Hiyoko's a cunt, but she's got a softer side with people she trusts.
And that's what Mahiru is there to expose.
>I think you're overstating their relationship.
Again, Saionji was fucking devastated at Mahiru's loss, and there were hints all up and down the line that she was beginning to rely on the megadyke as an elder sister/matron figure.
>dual-faced nature of men
No, it was a cheap juxtaposition. Monokuma got hit a little with the clumsiness, but not as much, and even so, it's forgiveable in between the Usami/Monokuma manzai bits and his behavior in DR1.

>I thought it was brilliant.
I think that shows that we're going to get nowhere in discussing this.

Right, forgot that she didn't hang herself. It did throw me for a bit of a loop...guess it was a bit of clever misdirection, then.

As for the Mahiru bit, I never bothered to get to know her better because she was boring. Still, what was up with that super-obvious blush, then? Just shyness at exposing her caring side? With just Saionji? Or is it because she's embarrassed to take the older sister role? Either way, she's still there as an obvious emotional rock for Saionji to rely on.

Okay, Sup Forums. Which one of these two would you distrust

>we don't know what was going on with Ibuki in her last moments.
Ibuki was not stupid. She wanted to live. Literally one of her first comments after being affected by the disease was her begging for her life
There was a pool of blood out in the stage. Why the fuck did she step on it? and why in the fuck did Mikan not clean it before Ibuki stepped on the stage? at that point Saionji was already a goner
Such crucial questions that the player is expected to answer in order to understand the mystery and not even the game properly explains them. That's shitty writing. Maybe you should learn what is bad writing before doing your rants.

I found the Hagakure stuff annoying because I went into it thinking Celeste was the killer, and if you approach that case with that mindset it becomes obvious. But I don't begrudge the case for trying to obscure the real killer, that's what the blackened should be trying to do.
As I said, at the class trial and after. Hiyoko running away you could just as easily attribute to seeing any dead body and Hiyoko being emotionally immature.
>Except she had all the motive to not kill Mahiru: her emotional dependence.
except she had a motive: her own survival.
>And that's what Mahiru is there to expose.
I suppose, but I feel like Mahiru has a higher purpose than just making Hiyoko redeemable.
>Again, Saionji was fucking devastated at Mahiru's loss
as I said, during the class trial and after. A lot of her devotion to Mahiru is revealed during and after the time you're figuring out she couldn't have done it.
>No, it was a cheap juxtaposition.
call it whatever you like. As for Monokuma, I meant that he's literally black and white with a happy bear face and a scary bear face. DR likes to focus on a person's good and bad sides.
>I think that shows that we're going to get nowhere in discussing this.
Sorry you didn't like the case as much as I did.

Ibuki was pretty stupid, just going off how she worked in a class trial. Add in the fact that she had the naive disease and could be told to do anything by anyone, I could see her walking over some blood. Or maybe she did it while Mikan was handling Hiyoko and Mikan didn't notice. Either way we'll never know, but the nature of Ibuki's disease makes it pretty easy for her to walk in a pool of blood.

Pretty annoying character till after the fun house. Then he's pretty great.

Ibuki's not that stupid if you look at her free time events. She does have actually intelligent musings with Hajime and she does show that she considers life important. I think her way of handling the trials is more a coping method to the absurd situation more than anything.

that sounds like bullshit. If she's using a life or death situation as a coping mechanism then she's stupid.

But whether she's stupid or not doesn't really matter. If anything the smart move would've been to step in some blood as that ended up hurting Mikan's case. But I doubt she intentionally did either, considering her mental state at the time.

Nagito was a huge faggot who ruined everything and got cutie Chiaki crushed. I will never forgive him and I hope he's the only one of who never wakes from their coma. He also had the audacity to steal Junko's beautiful, magnificent arm.

She's not stupid, and her disease is not naivety. She also wasn't there when Saionji was murdered, she was taken from the hospital afterwards when Saionji corpse was hiding in the pillar. You would expect Tsumiki to clean the pool before bringing her over, but she didn't. That's beyond being clumsy

Where's the good in Junko Enoshima?

>If she's using a life or death situation as a coping mechanism
user, are you dyslexic or just retarded

The tits and the porn, really. and the erpfags

You're wrong about almost everything
>She's not stupid,
she is
>and her disease is not naivety.
it was
>She also wasn't there when Saionji was murdered,
she was
>she was taken from the hospital afterwards when Saionji corpse was hiding in the pillar.
No, Hiyoko walked in on Mikan and Ibuki.
>You would expect Tsumiki to clean the pool before bringing her over, but she didn't.
she cleaned the pool of blood after killing both of them

I'm curious, what would you do if you have Nagito's luck?

She's gullible. That's the despair disease strain she has.

Tomato, tomahto. She had the disease where she'll listen to anything anybody says.

I guess it just comes down to differing interpretation and taste, then, since we both seem to understand what's going on. Hence why I figured it's not worth arguing anymore.

>Sorry you didn't like the case as much as I did.
What's the smarminess about?

Wew lad
Saionji walked in on Saionji setting up the stage
it's the reason why the orders of death mattered at all and the only way that clusterfuck of a case could make some sort of sense
hell Hinata literally mentions this in the case

Naivety and being gullible are different, though. A naive person just believes what other people say, while someone gullible means that they're far easier to cheat and order around with lies. They're slightly different.

Just listening to something is way different than listening to something and then immediately proceed to believe what has been said to you. I hope you know this important distinction.

It's not smarminess, I legitimately feel bad for people when they say they didn't feel for a part of a game like I did. Like the people who didn't feel bad when Aeris died or whatever.

*Saionji walked in on Mikan setting up the stage

Gullible and naive are synonyms
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>I legitimately feel bad for people when they say they didn't feel for a part of a game like I did.
I get what you're saying, I guess. Regardless, we can both agree that Nagito's laugh is pretty awesome, right?

No, Hiyoko walked in on Mikan preparing to kill Ibuki. That's why she freaked, and why Mikan had to kill her first.

Saionji was supposed to live. It is a fucking crime that she got killed off.

Agreed.

No
read the case again
she walked on Mikan setting up the stage
again Hinata mentions this. Ibuki was not there when this happened. Ibuki is gullible, not suicidal

He was the character DR needed, but not the one it deserved.

Post the part where Hajime says Ibuki was not there. That'd make no sense, because the entire point of Mikan hastily setting up the killing to mirror the movie was because she unexpectedly had to deal with two murders instead of one.

I'm a bit late, but I was really disappointed you didn't actually get to do the closing argument as Nagito, like how you briefly play as him during the investigation.

>Like the people who didn't feel bad when Aeris died or whatever.
Not the same guy, but the characters models are way too goofy for me to give a shit, so when that happened I really didn't feel anything at all.

I remember thinking that Sonia did it because she showed up to the diner in a wetsuit, which were in the closet of the house where mahiru died.

Nigger I just replayed the game two months ago and it's there, watch it on youtube or something, she suddenly met Saionji which fucked her entire plan of setting an alibi up and thus had to murder her and hide her behind the pillar, then did a bunch of gymnastics to make it seem like the movie as a tribute to her dyke crush.

>Implying that was actually Junko's arm

She was crushed beyond repair.

You think Naegi would just tell a lie?

I beat it and replayed it sooner than you, it's not there. Hiyoko walked in on Ibuki AND Mikan. Not only does your version go against the motive for the copycat killings. Further, it'd make no sense for Mikan to go back to the hospital to go get Ibuki after killing Hiyoko.

user...

That was Mukuro's arm

Explain corpse fucking then