>2 people on your overwatch team are retarded
>effectively 2/3rds of a team
>2 people on your tf2 team are retarded
>effectively 5/6ths of a team
this is why it's frustrating and why this game needs better matchmaking
i dont want some level 4 playing hanzo on offense on my team because it matters far more than it seems
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What if they're a good hanzo
Well then... it's less bad than in TF2 ? Since a less big part of your team is retarded ?
>a tf2 team is 2.4 people
What?
>ANOTHER FUCKING KEKWATCH THREAD
STOP MAKING THESE THREADS FOR YOUR KEKGAME, BLIZZKEK SHILL
Even good Hanzo players just spam arrows in general direction of enemies until something hits. OP is also retarded and thinks it isn't way more likely for more than two people to be retarded in tf2 given bigger team sizes
a tf2 team is 12 people
10/12 is 5/6
>It's a two Hanzo's and a Widow on attack episode
They show this one way too often.
12 people, user. He's saying that 12 - 2 = 10. 10/12 = 5/6
While in overwatch: 6 - 2 = 4. 4/6 = 2/3
Level 42 main Hanzo and I can shit on just about everyone.
But I do know this pain. Hadn't played in a few days and we had a full group last night. My friend was dead set on getting a Hanzo achievement and he was essentially useless. We lost almost every game.
>it's a widow on attack episode period
I don't care how good your KDR is, you'd be more useful as LITERALLY ANYONE ELSE.
Is this game crossplat?
>people talk about game
>THEY'RE ALL SHILLS
fuck off.
Sometimes Heavy counts as more than one person
>lol fanny math done wrong meme
Fuck off
Don't be ridiculous. It's a fps, console shitters would get destroyed if they were playing with mustards.
I told you guys 6v6 only would be frustrating as hell. Blizzard focused too much on "muh esports serious business tourneyfags!" and forgot that first and foremost a game should be fun.
>mom, how do I into fractions?
He meant
>[non retarded people] effectively make up 5/6 of a team
and what games do you like, user?
youtube.com
FIX THIS.
no, Blizzard stated M+KB users would decimate console players. they're not opposed to cross-console play though.
>2/6 = 2/3
wot
>because it matters far more than it seems
Yeah, wouldn't want to miss out on those points from winning a match in this super serious, highly competitive, high stakes game that was polished with pin point precision, where careers are made, money is lost and team sponsors are on the line.
You giant cock chewing faggot. Go kill yourself, this isn't a joke or sarcasm.
Oh, cool, I read that completely wrong.
Thanks, man.
I pick Widow on attack, on control point maps, because its really easy to counter static defenses that people set up. Widow is particularly good on the second point of Anubis.
Other way around. He's saying you only have 4 players in a 6 man team.
Oh.
I watched several videos of this game and some people looks like they were playing with gamepads. The devs also needs to trim down the hitboxes a bit and do some nerfing.
Why is it that when I start my Battle.net there's always a 30-60 mb patch?
Yet, patch notes are never changing.
You're retarded. Widow is OP as fuck when she's not being countered by a winston and is the end-all be-all when it comes to taking out and pushing back bastions and tor.
Stop being a retard and push up while she covers you.
I bet you're the kind of faggot who refuses to move to the objective until a tank overcommits for you.
Know who else is good for that? Junkrat. And he does it while being able to actually attack the point too. Your waifu is shit.
>People think Widow isn't good on attack
Lmao, Widow is good on literally any side of any map.
Blame the ASSFAGGOTS games. They breed these kind of cucks.
>he cares about e-"""sports"""
LMAO
Ah, I see what he's saying. 1/3 of your team is retarded, so you only have 2/3 of an actual team. Could've chosen a much better way to say that.
>junkrat
>good at beating bastion/tor
That's some funny shit, user.
Next you'll tell me Pharah is a good counter to Widow
They're the same people who will automatically switch away from Lucio when someone clicks Mercy because a good World of Warcraft group only has one healer.
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>Widow is particularly good on the second point of Anubis.
This is how I know a shitter is talking
Might be a patch file tagging issue user. Does it only happen to you?
this one is great every time
>Duong Ha
rofl
You have to go full fucking Mei ro even get through the last part of Anubis
lmao I laugh when I see Widowmaker pathetically standing on top of the archway/under it while her team's time is running out
>Junkrat
>good at beating bastion/tor
Actually yes Junkrat is good at beating Bastion/Tor in about 95% of the situation. Bastion in Turret mode or Toblerones Turrets unless they're waaaay far at the back then that accounts for the 5%
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This. As you hide in the back or behind the walls and she hopes you expose yourself.
Anything that can displace the enemy is good for Anubis 2nd point. Roadhog really shines if you can land jumping hooks
Then pick pharah, take the turrets out and STILL be a useful team member outside of that
>TF2 players don't stack snipers cause they aren't retarded
>Battlefield/CoD players lock sniper counters in lobbies to prevent shitters from going all snipers
>Overwatch players swear the strat works in their game
>junkrat
>not the go-to for anti-turret
Widow players everybody.
An offensive widow on Anubis B forces the defenders to stay to the sides of the point, giving peopld flanking from the left a clear shot at all the targets
Trying to teamfight on the point or stall a capture with an offensuve widow unmolested is suicide
The only reason widow isn't top tier (read: used at all times in comp) is because she gets countered hard by Winston and the heroes she counters best (tor, bastion, pharah) see almost no use.
>pharah
>good at killing rein or tor
Holy shit
How do you manage not to choke on your own spit
Reinhardt is also good for the last point since defense only had one angle to shoot him from, depending on where he pushes in.
CP maps are still retarded though. You can literally wipe the defense team and they'll just respawn, spam their ults, and back to square one.
>Then pick pharah, take the turrets out and STILL be a useful team member outside of that
Sure that works in some cases but there's times when you need to lob grenades over an obstacle or into a building.
What... its 1/6 not 5/6 5/6 is 10 ppl
>giving peopld flanking from the left a clear shot at all the targets
Are we gonna ignore the little U-Turn around the statue behind the point? You can force the enemy onto the point into a massacre if you wait it out in there.
Never said you kill Rein with Pharah, though her concussive blast removes him and his shield from the fight (assuming you finished middle school and understand the concept of a blast radius).
>You can literally wipe the defense team and they'll just respawn, spam their ults, and back to square one.
ooor
wipe the defense and block the spawn with Mei as they cry and you win.
Widow is the worst hero in the game bar none. If you play her you're shit and doing nothing for your team.
I usually switch to Hanzo when there's a bastion or Torbjorn problem. He clears out stationary turrets better than anyone else.
>Are we gonna ignore the little U-Turn around the statue behind the point
You mean the little "please rale my face off" hidey hole behind the point? The one with both entrances directly in Widow's line of sight.
No. No we aren't forgetting it.
>I didn't say rein
No, but you did say pharah beats bastion and tor, which is so far from correct I wonder if you didn't mean something else entirely.
>Pharah's rockets on hit does 120 dmg
>Snipers on full charge can do 125-150
>Has the benefit of having big generous hitboxes
>Can spam more charged shots out than what Pharah can spam out
Why is this allowed?
I fucking hate sniper mains. At least Hanzo can be helpful on attack, but every fucking game some special snowflake decides to instant pick widow. She's a situational counter to certain characters and only that.
Sniper shots dont have splash damage :^)
You can dodge rockets but you cant dodge sniper shit
>which is so far from correct I wonder if you didn't mean something else entirely.
How can she not beat them when she can literally shoot torbrets outside of their range?
How can she not beat them when you can get an angle on Bastion that he can't return fire from?
Let me guess, you pick pharah, press shift+space and try to rain rockets down like you're just gonna be able to get away with that
She's even bad at that. There's NO reason to play widow when you could pick a real character.
>implying Hanzo's charge is instant, does splash damage and fires in a straight line
You're retarded.
Tor turret range is massive and hitting airborne pharah with his primary fire is cake.
Bastion has an even easier time. If you attack head on you'll get shredded and any bastion with two brain cells to rub together will get up after being hit by a rocket and wreck you with his assault rifle.
Pharah is fucking garbage at dealing with hitscan characters you retard
Widow does it just as good and can actually snipe people
Widow players everybody.
I'd argue that Pharah handles tobjorn better, and genji and... anyone with sense can usually deal with bastion. It's amazing how often another player will forget that you're still around if you hide, and bastion turrets are really easy to sneak up on.
Tor turret range is less than Pharah range.
Holy shit you guys must be the biggest shitter humanly possibly.
A decent Widow can literally carry a team of 5 retards.
>reading comprehension
>Lijiang towers
>our team has a fucking Torbjörn
>he refuses to switch until the very last second
>he's completely shit with whatever he picks
>always defaults back to Torbjörn, with who he dies over and over
What's the point of MMR if you get matched with complete retards 1/3 of the time? So many times I've had nice, balanced matches between equal opponents where I didn't even care if we lost because everyone was playing well to the last second.
>Let me guess, you pick pharah, press shift+space and try to rain rockets down like you're just gonna be able to get away with that
>Tor turret range is massive and hitting airborne pharah with his primary fire is cake
>mfw Widowmaker players actually ARE retarded
Are you a console player? Bastion has 360 degree aim in turret mode and a ttk that beats everyone. Yku can't just "sneak up" on Bastion.
And if maps were one long hallway that would matter
Are there even maps with enough space for something to be outside of Torbjorn turret's range?
What kind of Torbjorn would put a turret in such place?
Not him, but you're looking at the game as if every Pharah you've experienced is a moron, honestly. Pharah can counter torb/bast/rein and basically wipe any defensive setup very easily if you actually learn the maps and coordinate lurks properly.
I like torb on point battle...
>surprised retards are playing a game made by blizzard.
>Get matched near the end of the game in Hollywood because some faggot quit
>Say fuck it and Toblerone up
>We end up getting to overtime but lost at the last second
Wasn't mad that we lost because the team was really good until a few of us slipped, but seriously, fuck people who drop near the end of the match.
>What's the point of MMR if you get matched with complete retards 1/3 of the time
that's MMR doing it's job.
Let's say the system knows you got 4 REALLY good players on your team while the other team is 6 average players. The queue will throw you 2 GARBAGE players because that balances the matchmaking equation regardless of the ramifications caused by having 2 players that bad in the first place.
>are you a console player
>you just can't sneak up on bastion
>mfw
>find a match
>load in
>DEFEAT
It's quite the opposite, you lot are acting as though every bastion is a blind and deaf invalid.
Pharah loterally cannot kill a non-retarded bastion. Her rockets are slow and his recon mode fucks Pharah sideways just as well as Soldier 76 does.
Flying up is suicide and peeking and shooting is ineffectual.
A widow can charge, peek, then double tap for a near instant bastion kill. One that happens faster than he can react to escape.
Not even the splash dmg is high. Not at all.
Sniper hits you with a full shot and comes with a small shot right after it.
Pharah players are literally fucked.
Did you know though? If Bastion switches to recon, he's not defending the point anymore.
Can I play with you, Duong. I need a cool azn friend.
>find a match
>load in
>my teammates have chosen Widowmaker, Widowmaker and Hanzo on offense
>I leave the game and find another
this happens like almost every fucking game
>ITT people bitch about every sniper but Roadhog
>YFW Roadhog is the tank version of a sniper
>everyone saying torb/bastion destroys pharah
Holy shit you guys are morons. I'm going to explain this ONE time. Here's how to handle ANY defense as a character that is good at picking off priority targets or ripping apart a group.
>get ready at flank of the 30 turret defense setup they have
>wait for team to push
>once they attract the wrath of the horde you poke out
>clean up shop
This may seem hard to understand to you widowmaker players but this is a team game. Bastion and and Torb cannot shoot more than 1 person at a time. So if they're shooting someone that's NOT you, that means you're free to shoot them without them shooting back.
See how that works?
It's a neat little concept right?
Wow!, numbers sure are cool!
Nice face, retard.
Enemy footsteps are loud as fuck, bastion's ttk is near instant, and bastion can face any direction in turret mode. Unless you can stun or reflect then "sneaking up" on bastion is just going to get you perforated
Except on console where people can't turn or aim quickly, which is why I assume your dumb pharah-promiting ass is a console player.
I see your point but I actually "don't" think that way. I know bastions strength but if bastions trying to help focus a tank down he's literally a sitting duck for lurking. I've gotten behind SO MANY teams on pharah in a 6 stack it's not even funny.
also this
I could never see this game maintaining a following.
It's the definition of over-designed. Yeah lets just draw the wonkiest characters we can so that maybe someone will notice us.
Now lets throw lines and random colors all over the screen because we hate ourselves and the player
It needs dedicated servers so you cna find a good server and stick to it
>every game is a 1v6 where the enemy is only shooting me always, at all times, no matter what
>be bastion
>get hit by pharah from a corner
>move five feet to the left, plop right back down
Such effective
Much rockets
>YFW roadhog isn't picked that often and is 2nd worst tank
>pharah moves 5 feet to the left
what now faggot
What about the other teammates that are sitting next to Bastion and Torb's turret? What if they never push, or if they do, they push the flank that you were camping?
>my hero is great at X if no one is paying attention to them!
Did anyone ever tell you that you were special?
>Nobody ever picks tanks or healers the video game experience
I made an experiment and stopped picking any support for the game for like 10 games straight just to see what would happen.
Players are fucking awful at this game. They will not swap heroes, they will ignore composition and pick just what gives them kills them complain about how "shit" is their team when they lose the game because they trickle in, meaning even if they do get a kill they eventually run into their counter and keep on dying forever until the match is over.
The only way I win is either by carrying with Roadhog in PUGs or coordinating with friends.
Why do you retards always compare Tf2 and Overwatch?
>Duh it has classes, so that means it's exactly like tf2.
Overwatch is more like Csgo combined with League of Legends or dota or something similar