Jak II

>never played Jak series growing up
>sick of modern gaming
>pick up the Jak and Daxter collection for PS3
>play through Jak 1 and enjoy some old school platforming
>have a blast and 100% it
>sweet, time for Jak II
>Jak 1 model for intro, fast forward
>pic related
>Jak is edgy as fuck
>Daxter is using slightly more vulgar vocabulary
>get into town
>dude talks to Jak
>Jak yanks old geezer by the collar, "Where the HELL am I?" in his deep batman voice
>finally free-roam city and it's fucking GTA
>fucking vehicles, cops, and civilians
>get to the sword icon on map, Jak talks all hardcore to the dude

What the fuck is this shit?
How do I go from a light-hearted platforming collectathon (power cells and orbs) to some 2edgy4me GTA?
I understand Jak was tortured in prison for 2 years, but man they really shifted the tone.
I admit I just started and am gonna play more, but I just had to put it out there.
What the FUCK were they thinking?

>guy imprisons and tortures jak for years
>now jak wants to kill him
>this is edgy, and not a completely normal reaction

Does 'edgy' even mean anything anymore?

The farther into the game you get, the more Jak softens back up to becoming something close to what he used to be.

He never really had a personality in the first game either.

It's better. The first game was casual babby shit.

The story IS edgy though

ok

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Sup Forums is full of preschoolers.

Like how sheltered do you have to be to think Jak II of all things is "edgy" or "hardcore"?

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why isn't there any good jak and daxter porn

Atleast Jak 3 he lightens up

By the actual definition, it is somewhat edgy in that the game was an unconventional departure from what the original was.

this

Lets not forget he has dark eco in his blood now which makes him more aggressive. He literally hulks out

A question for the ages.

Jak as a character was only really edgy near the beginning, after getting tortured by Praxis and becoming Dark Jak

Other than that he was pretty normal

it hurts

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It was nice when ND liked giving their girls great asses along with nice tits.

I played Jak II first, and loved the fuck out of it. Found Jak 1 boring and repetitive in comparison.

if thay make another jak game i hope thay will

>thay
Oy vey...

Wait till you play Jak 3, and find out the truth of the Precursors.

......oh my God!

It never did on Sup Forums.

Also keep in mind that Sup Forums is nowadays full of sheltered underage children who genuinely believe that bad things do not happen in the world.

i spell it Wrong on purpose

Unfortunately, you are a liar. With pants on fire.

>and my dick is about to fire on that ass

Agreed OP, the tone shift is fucking ridiculous. Still a good game along with the third one, just try to forget it has anything to do with the first.

i like to make the grammar freaks mad

Don't bother Sup Forums is full of people who played jak 2 when they were 12 and unironically liked it

No I didn't, I legitimately liked it.

>enjoyment is a lie
>fun is a meme

Get down from that glorious machine!

People who go out of their way to find 10+ year old games and retroactively call them edgy don't deserve the air they breathe.

Gameplay is fine
game is fine

You'll probably hate Jak 3 as well.

Even though II has some cheap deaths due to a lack of polish and testing (seriously ND, what the fuck?), I like it more because it is actually more relaxed and chill than 3.

3 is constantly on a countdown towards THE END OF THE WORLD, while 2 gives you all the time you need to save Haven City; the Baron and Metalheads will wait for you.

I don't think any kids had a problem with Jak or Daxter in the second game, I know I didn't at that age. Sure, it might be a little cringey now, but it was a kids game that I enjoyed and still think about playing because the gameplay is fun. Same with Jak 3 and Ratchet 2 and 3. Besides, Jak actually behaves more like and adult later in the game instead of snapping at everyone and everything.

>never played Jak series growing up
>sick of modern gaming

Are you 12? Congrats on discovering Jak

Jak II definitely marks the time when Naughty Dog drastically dropped in quality because "we grew up and want to make mature games for mature people like ourselves."

Which is hilarious, because just as Jak II and beyond were just shitty GTA clones, Uncharted was just a Indiana Jones knockoff with more movie than actual game. Really just shows that they don't have an original bone in their bodies when they don't have Crash to fall back on.

>has probably played all but 5 different AAA titles and nothing else
>sick of modern gaming

nope

I like three a lot more because wherever you go you see the Guard struggling to fight off the KG-bots and the metalheads on all fronts, and you get to see the front line advance as well as have missions with the guard.

I wish they replaced those outdated fucking find the egg or time run challenges for Guard missions in haven city, so you'd help the guard and get eggs. I just love seeing the guard blast metal heads.

It's a western game, and western porn artists are universally awful

>not liking finding things in a platformer

Jak 2 was one of the hardest games on the ps2. Deal with it

>western porn artists are universally awful
True.

But western artist WHO ALSO do porn are great.

Artists who only do porn are shit. All of them.

>it has hovercar stealing therefore it is a GTA clone

Bitch I'm 26 and I tried the first Jak and Daxter PS2 demo at Best Buy back when the game just came out and I wasn't interested.
But I am sick of all the shooters and cinematic games, and I been having an itch for platformers.
Thus why I got the Jak collection cuz I wanted some platforming, but upon playing Jak II, I'm in some GTA mission styled game with vehicles to get around everywhere.

Its BAD GTA clone, the driving is fucking awful, the map is shit, the vehicle selection is barebones and the city is badly designed.

Maybe. Because the game makes you die many times due to being untested.

When we were all 12 yeah maybe. Just played it again recently and the only mission I didn't clear in one shot was pic related

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>What the FUCK were they thinking?
GTA happened.
Seriously, it was released and was huge hit, so Naughty Dog decided they wanted some of that too.

You're just bad.

Do you remember the times when every first person shooter was called "a Doom clone" due to also being first person shooters?

Of course you don't. Because you don't know your gayming history.

How much fucking time did you spend just driving around and jumping from one vehicle to another? Seriously, have you played either GTA or Jak at all? "Oh it has guns and vehicles, it's GTA!".

I'll bet that only 5% of the missions revolved around actual driving.

>not punch spinning through that level

It's even easier if you go dark jak just for the damage reduction it gives. No ammo needed.

There were platforming sections in Jak 2, though. There was the Fortress in the beginning, Dead Town, the Mountain Temple, the strip mine, and the Tomb of Mar later

GTA became a Driver clone. Deal with it.

Or you could just beat it normally.

I know my gayming history underage fuck and the ammount of freeroaming mission based games during the after October 01' exploded, even the fucking Simpsons had a game like that

No, it didn't. Stay wrong.

define normally?
Guns blazin was pretty difficult on that level

Jak suffered from the same thing Dragon Ball did.
First game is like Dragon Ball: it's got
>original setting
>light hearted approach to a serious plot
>great characters
Second game was like early (pre Buu) DBZ
>Jak gets edgy
>big deal with anger issues
>Jak transforms to take on the enemy
>dark future shit
and the third is like Buu saga
>humor is back because Jak grows as a person
>unlocks new transformations (light Jak)
>ends with show down involving Gods
Tl;dr Jak 3 shits all over Jak 2

During the mission with you destroying the giant drill in the caves, when you break all the support cables, Jak stops, and a cutscene plays with the drill blowing up.

If you are on one of the rails above the lava, Jak, who stops automatically, falls in the lave. No amount of GUD will prevent you from dying.


In the Palace mission, after talking to Ashlyn, you go through a passage, climb some platforms, get shot while jumping, fall down and die. Because on your first try, the guards on top of the platforms spawn facing you, shoot, and don't miss. You cannot dodge bullets in this game. You can run away, hoping they'll miss. You cannot dodge bullets. On your first attempt, you get shot, you die. No amount of GUD will help you.


Every now and then, after transforming into Dark Jak, a stray shot transforms you right the fuck back, leaving you stunned in a spot for 2 seconds, rendering you unable to escape enemy shots. If they shoot again, you get hit. No amount of GUD can help you


What was that about the game being well tested.

I prefer to play certain missions as intended by the developer such as not dashing to the end or abusing overpowered things like spin shooting.

It's more fun this way

>make a fun colorful platformer at the end of the genre's prime
>it's tired in concept and mediocre in execution
>the gun platformer that released alongside yours is more loved
>push a 2edgy gun loaded sequel trying to chase yet another trend because you can't make anything original
>it ends up a mess just like last time

it really isn't that hard to figure out

>freeroaming city
>activities and parts of the map opens up as you progress the story
>mission structure progress
>side activities and collectables all around the city
>not a GTA clone

annon plz

>How much fucking time did you spend just driving around and jumping from one vehicle to another?

bitch are you fucking serious? there is no other way of transportation in that clusterfuck of city with relentless psychocops. Getting around in Jak 2 was the WORST part of the game and there is no way you can debate that.

jak 2 is a love hate game for me. i hate the fucking fact that the same exact two songs plays over and over again when your in haven city. but i love the platforming segments and the controls are perfect.

Jak 3 will always be my favourite. I dunno why but I would run away war-torn Haven city for so long helping out these guys from the never ending horde of robots and metal heads. All the missions centered around them were pretty fun too.

>open world game that doesnt have to be open world

thats my biggest gripe with jak 2

This, by Jak 3 he becomes way calmer

jak 3 is my favorite to because i fucking love desert settings

that 5% was responsible for about 80% of my lifetime video game rage.

jak and daxter 1 was the same way

>complains about obsceneties
>entire post is littered with them

also, they were competing with ratchet and clank.

>I sucked, so you all had to as well!

Jak 3 haven city felt a bit comfier for some reason, I guess it's that calm with the rain when you're away from the enemies

>Getting the hoeverboard upgrade that lets you move around in the desert at super speeds

That shit was so fun just being able to jump off the sand dunes doing tricks and shit.

>not allowed to point out the tone change

Also I picked up the Ratchet and Clank Collection as well, and I plan on playing them after the Jak series.

The only way you'll end on top of lava by the end of the rail mission is if you missed them and had to come back the wrong way

They can miss, also you can kill them if you were paying attention.

You'll only transform back if you health runs out, you should've figured this out on your own.

Aside from falling into water being instant death in the the first fragment of mars missions I can't complain, but even then, after I knew, all I had to do was not fall in the water.

At least you didn't complain about pic related 3/10

It takes a whole minute to get from one mission to the next, and the mission progress is identical to Jak 1. There were collectables in Jak 1 and 3, and a fast method to get to each area like warp gates. Travel time is far worse in Jak 3, where you get a whole empty desert plus a speedy hoverboard and light jak flying glitch. How you make Jak 2 out to be the worst in beyond me.

not really

Only thing that annoyed me with Jak 3 was that temple like place near the little city you never enter outside the vehicle. I did all sorts of shit thinking it would be some huge secret.

dsp play jak he fucking sucked

You died cheap death as well.

Are you trying to say you didn't? Did you captured your immaculate no death playthrough on camera?

Are you actually retarded? The story giving reason to Jak being edgy doesn't mean that the game isn't edgy as shit. You realize that Jak isn't a real person right? The tonal shift that Naughty Dog pulled was ridiculous. The game itself is fine, but the atmosphere and story went down the drain with 2.

Jak X was fun

just play gta instead then like the mature gaymer you are

Loved how all the girls had great racks

I'd say the Onin button mashing was worse

Does he actually suck at games or does he pretend? His jak 2 video made me want to Punch the screen

If I remember correctly, there were only a handful that involved actually driving around the city with a ship. There was one where you had to make a delivery to the Hip Hog Saloon, another where you had to pick up money for Krew from money drops around the city, another where you had to turn on power switches, another where you had to free Lurkers that were imprisoned on ships throughout the city, and another where you had to blow up some Krimson Guard ships

That's all I can remember off the top of my head, I play Jak 2 a ton when I was a kid. There are GTA-like elements but to say it's a GTA clone is a bit of an exaggeration, because there are a lot of areas outside the city you have to go to too and there's a much smaller emphasis on side activities

I said I liked the light-hearted tone of the first Jak, you illiterate fuck.

yap wish i had it now

Oh I died, just not in the "unavoidable" ways you claim had to have happened.

>You'll only transform back if you health runs out, you should've figured this out on your own.
Full health bar. Transform. Get shot. In roughly 1/5 cases you transform back. Health percentage does not matter. It's a bug.

Also, your example does not count. You can master it. It is hard, but you can beat it if you're good. In the cases I mentioned, the game just kill you with you having no options but die. That was due to the game not being properly tested. Stop defending Naughty Dog. They make mistakes.

then why complain about how it's a gta clone? do you want lighthearted gta then?

Shame it didn't get ported like the trilogy. Hell, even Ratchet Deadlocked got a port when nobody thought it would.