The NCR has all of the problems of the ancient Roman Republic - extreme bureaucracy, corruption...

>The NCR has all of the problems of the ancient Roman Republic - extreme bureaucracy, corruption, extensive senatorial infighting.
>Just as with the ancient Republic, it is natural that a military force should conquer and transform the NCR into a military dictatorship.
>Thesis and antithesis. The Colorado River is my Rubicon. The NCR council will be {beat} eradicated, but the new synthesis will change the Legion as well...
>...from a basically nomadic army to a New Vegas thread.

Do not respond to bait.

Fallout 4 is the best Fallout game

>Not Fallout 5

Caesar had a very surface-level understanding of Hegel. Absolute pleb.

Reminder

POST IT NOW NIGGERS

>BEST QUEST
>BEST WEAPON
>BEST COMPANION

Killian is still best husbando. Try to prove me wrong, faggots.

What is the best gun and why is it knock knock?

>there are retards who would rather side with a bunch of edgy, machete-wielding savages then a functioning democratic republic

ok, someone respond to my bullet points (for why New Vegas is worse than Fallout 3)

let's have an actual fucking argument this time, no shit-flinging

>New Vegas has 0 atmosphere
>mediocre gunplay (modifications dumb down the combat)
>an awful setting
>terrible music

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Nah fallout shelter is better

>Yfw being pordoned after bombing arizona.

what mods should I look for if I want to make my Courier a slut with a huge butt? I did some independent research but a lot of those mods seem to have vanished from the internet

I can't hear you over my SPURS

>notthisshitagain.jpg

Not the reboot known only as FALLOUT

What's the best order to play the DLCs and at what point of main quests should I do it for maximum immersion?

>Not playing Fallout Seattle and pretending to be a beatnik smacking down the man with your Chinese comrades

Well, most of Hegels works are probably lost to time/nuclear fire.

>ARIZONA KILLER
>PACIENCIA/LUCKY/CHANCE'S KNIFE
>CASS

present an argument, I know we can find objective truth eventually

>BEST COMPANION
Better yet, who is the best non-companion NPC?

Literally stop responding. He's going to reply to each of your posts and he's going to get more replies.

Why is this spess mahreen so smug?

Jesus you derailed the last thread to shit
Stop shitposting faggot

All authoritarians can gtfo my Mojave

YOU WA SHOCK

>QUEST
beyond the beef
>WEAPON
Scoped hunting rifle
>COMPANION
Gannon

He is right, and also displays an unusually indepth knowledge and understanding of Roman history and structure. Surely most of that information would be lost in the bombings.

>functioning

lol

I will say only that, having played through the DLCs recently, I think you should start at like level 15 and go through them all in release order. You could probably even start sooner than that. Just don't make the mistake I did, going into Lonesome Road with a level 45 character killing everything in one shot from the Holorifle.

>an awful setting
Much better than fallout 3
>terrible music
Much MUCH better than fallout 3
>mediocre gunplay
Absolutely the same as fallout 3 + iron sights
>(modifications dumb down the combat)
What
>New Vegas has 0 atmosphere
Well guess how I know you're a retarded normie?

Furst Honest Hearts.
Second Old world Blues
Third Lonesome road
And finally Dead money to get an orderly immersive experience.

If it's your first time going through them, just do it in release order. The game recommends you start DM at level 20.

Honestly I felt NV had worse atmosphere for a while. I don't really know why, I guess 3 resembled an actual post apocalyptic setting a whole lot better than NV (because Fallout isn't supposed to be post apocalyptic) and the Capital Wasteland seemed to be more filled than the Mojave.

Both had great music though. Maybe I just think that because listening to the same songs over and over again on console made me go crazy.

see
I believe I can prove New Vegas is objectively better, present an argument or fuck off

Honest hearts, old world blues, dead money, lonesome road.

Maybe move old world blues and dead money around.

Dead money has a weird difficulty, and the general recommendation is to be a bit overleveled for it.

Because he got away with bombing all of legion and NCR territory and Ceasar forgives him after destroying his rome.

>Well, most of Hegels works are probably lost to time/nuclear fire.
The problem is that his reading of Hegel can't be found in Hegel at all. It's as if Caesar found a copy of Karl Popper, saw his strawman of Hegel and thought "Wow, this is so convincing!", like Caesar was purposefully being an edgy faggot.

>NCR
>Functioning

You're the worst kind of person

Also what the fuck is this order? Yeah okay lets finish with Dead Money even though it foreshadows Lonesome Road.

here's an argument:
go fuck yourself

I completely agree

> Horses are extinct in Fallout

Por que?

I always went with Honest Hearts first, it's kinda easy. Then Dead Money, then Old World blues, then Lonesome Road.

Play Honest Hearts after dealing with the Boomers, play Dead Money after dealing with the Brotherhood, play Old World Blues after doing Khans/etc. and do Lonesome Road before Hoover Dam.

he explains how he learned about it while growing up in the followers of the apocalypse

Even though the thread not to respond to bait
>Zero atmosphere
I got the atmosphere of a western cowboy on a lone trail.
>mediocre gunplay
It is like 3 but with modifications and funner weapons. Wut.
>an awful setting
How is a desert an awful setting? Metros are an awful setting.
>terrible music
>Hating on Johnny Guitar and I GOT THE SPURS THAT GO JINGLE JANLGE

Now for why I like New Vegas more:
>Better story
>Better characters
>Far, far, far more choices
>Interesting tibits of lore
>Actually faithful to original games

Meanwhile in fallout 4
>Far harbor
>Muh synth story carried on from the main quest
>Want new? No, ghouls
>Want new? No, milurk
>Want new? fuck you
>Radiation ghoul zombie milurk fish theme
>Fucking lobster crate as a helmet start printing money right now
>Still no sea life in a sea themed dlc just fucking kill me already

>functioning democratic republic
lmao if the NCR doesn't engage in mass expansion or a complete change in infrastructure, both impossible because of how impotent the government works, the NCR will collapse from famine

Is Old World Blues worth finishing if I didn't like the first hour or two of it?

I planned this shit out a while back, nigga. Do HH after you deal with Benny, but before you side with any faction or even entertain them much. You can RP it as "wanting to take a break from it all." Get back, and pick a side. Then, you'll want to do OWB when the game sends you back to that side of the map (which it will if you're doing Veronica's or Cass' quests). When you get back, work your way up to Arizona Killer/whatever the gay alternative is. If you kill/fail to save Kimball, it serves as a perfect excuse to leave the Mojave and visit the Sierra Madre. Get back, resolve everything, then head off for one last confrontation in the Divide.

Alright switch four and three if you want a proper finish. No need to have an autistic sperg out.

explain why 3 is the better game without petty ad hominem attacks

Music is great.(it has memorable tracks on the radio)
Gunplay is the same if not better than fallout 3's

>vegas
>an awful setting
Because changing coasts was so much better,right?
It's closer to the originals,and still has an identity of it's own.
Unlike D.C which was just a rehash of the originals in a shallow manner.

in the graphic novel preceding nv, there's ncr guys on horses in his flashback to bitter springs

though that might be due to being strung out on tons of drugs

suck my dick

>replying to bait
pls

Dead money last makes a lot of sense because of how much truly imbalanced shit it gives to a player.
You want literally INFINITE .308 ammo, stimpacks, weapon repair kits and other goodies? Lol okay here they are.
You want a weapon of mass destruction that has absolutely fucking ridiculous damage per each shot, that's basically impossible to miss with because of the size of the projectile, that uses MFC which is the most common type of energy ammo in the game and that's one of coolest looking weapons in the game? Here it is bruh!!

Functions about the same as modern society does.

What didn't you like about it? It's my favorite, and I'd argue it is most people's favorite. Though you have a few Dead Money fanatics.

When did I use an ad homenim you bastard?

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OP here, as said in the OP, do not respond to posts talking about 3 or 4 or any other bait.

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the original Fallout at least alluded to Washington DC. New Vegas wasn't mentioned at all, Obsidian pulled the setting out of their asses

Fallout 3's setting has more steam behind it

>letting go
Nah, thanks to mods I can keep all my gold and bankrupt the entire Mojave.

>All these Fallout 4 fanboys ITT latching onto the NV bandwagon
Loving every laugh

Might as well finish it, you can proper rush it if you're not feeling it.

forget about him, it's just bait

Are you retarded bruh?

Who keeps making threads about this shit game?

levels don't matter because New Vegas is easy, but most people recommend starting at level 15. Just make sure you have the right stats or whatever.

Dead Money before meeting Benny.
Honest Hearts after starting Act 2.
Old World Blues in the middle of Act 2.
Lonesome Road right before the Battle for Hoover Damn.

You have to choose. Fallout new vegas with fallout 4's graphics or fallout 4 with fallout new vegas gameplay designs?

Horses are the one retcon I wouldn't mind. It's not like it would be hard to do for Bethesda, seeing as they have them in TES.

People who enjoy video games.

Everyone because it keeps being discussed a lot more than fallout 4 even though it's 6 years old.

>New Vegas was first mentioned as Las Vegas by Tycho in Fallout,

New vegas with fallout 4 graphics and gameplay anyday of the fucking week.

I did. Wanna fight faggot?

Not that guy but I actually don't understand the hate for Fallout 3.. can anyone explain it to me? I prefer it tenfold to New Vegas for a huge variety of reasons, mainly story. The consensus seems to be that New Vegas has better gameplay with a pretty mediocre story, is that true here too?

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>You want a weapon of mass destruction that has absolutely fucking ridiculous damage per each shot, that's basically impossible to miss with because of the size of the projectile, that uses MFC which is the most common type of energy ammo in the game and that's one of coolest looking weapons in the game? Here it is bruh!!

In my current playthrough, I just noticed the Holorifle stopped taking durability damage for some reason. Now I can just use MC cells with impunity.

First all the way

Who cares? I want Fallout 4 with New Vegas's writing.

The first choice easily.

You never mentioned story, so I assumed they were the same as they were.

FO4 with NV gameplay because then it would actually be somewhat of an RPG.

The former is just an ugly game slightly uglier.

>ad hominem attacks
>arguments

pick one

Piper's replaced Cass for ultimate waifu.

I care less about the graphics and more about the animation. F4 may not have caught up with other modern games, but the animation is still smoothest to play of all the TES/Fallout games.

Just imagine the shotgun and repeater animations for New Vegas weapons?

It just feels really disconnected from the rest of the game in a way I don't like. The only other one I played was Honest Hearts and that feels more in line with the rest of the game. OWB feels like Far Cry Blood Dragon more than Fallout.

The government wasn't even in D.C by the apocalypse.
Enclave Oil Rig.Does that ring any bells?
Also,obsidian made NV from the scrapped fallout 3's design documents.

not here to argue, I'm here to tell you to fuck off

Cass was never a waifu. Cass is an old hag but a prime drinking buddy.

>GHOST TOWN GUNFIGHT
>BRUSH GUN
>CASS

The story is dumb, but not as dumb as Fallout 3. The factions are better, the side quests are better, the gameplay is better.

New Vegas is a straight upgrade to Fallout 3, even if it is far from perfect.

If someone remade new vegas with fallout 4 graphics and gameplay i would cum so hard i would need medical attention afterwards

DLC order you should play in (for level and lore purposes): Honest Hearts, Old World Blues, Dead Money, Lonesome Road.

You can play them as long as you play them before the final battle of Hoover Dam and you'd do well to play them before fully committing yourself to 1 faction. You should be pretty familiar with every faction before playing the DLC though.

Oh please Piper a shit.

>there are retards who would rather be taxed by corrupt merchants and lorded over by unimpressive and unefficient bereacrats than live peacefully under a safe, military dictatorship that provides clean water, food, electricity and protection for all of its citizens and whose economy and worldview isn't predicated on finite resources

The hate for Fallout comes from the people who played the originals.

Not only did lore get stuffed up, but Fallout 3 was already in production by Black Isle studios (Who went on to become Obsidian). Also, the rehashing of stuff that did not need to be rehashed (Super Mutants and Enclave)

well then go back to neogaf if you want a hugbox

>The government wasn't even in D.C by the apocalypse.

yeah, source?

True. Cass was the kind of fugly ginger hag that I use to carry my shit and give it a bottle of whiskey as a treat.

Reminder that gameplay =/= gunplay and if that were the case NV would lose shit like skills and checks and DT.