I've been keeping an eye on the job listings on Crystal Dynamics' careers page on their website here: crystald.com/careers
Most of these position descriptions directly referred to the Legacy of Kain franchise by name up until recently. All of the listings that had these references have been modified since then, and no longer feature any references to any games. Unfortunately, I did not take screenshots of any of these listings when they had these references.
Agreed, this is what scares me the most. Especially since she's working for EA currently, and EA is basically a prison.
Zachary Morales
FUCK YOU VAMPIRE
Leo Martin
But what if it's even worse than Dead Sun?
Jackson Green
LoK should remain as the good memories they are. I have no faith that today's developers could do it justice.
Brandon Watson
By "Let's hope this turns out better than LoK: Dead Sun", I was not referring to the quality of that game. I was referring to it being cancelled.
Carter Green
>inb4 spin off not really connected to previous games
Levi Martinez
>Nosgoth cancelled Whoever thought anyone wanted this was a retard and I hope they learned from that abominable mistake.
Ayden Ward
It must be weird for Raziel learning that his past self was a cocky dick.
Ethan Wood
Most likely gonna happen since all the assets from Dead Sun are already there. Wouldn't mind it being finished up, with a good story behind it.
Jose Diaz
>people bashing dead sun
>game never came out and like 1 video exists
o k
Henry Morris
Honestly, if they worked that shit out better, it could've been the fuel to reignite the franchise's popularity.
But no, they dropped the ball pretty fucking hard.
Christian Peterson
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Nathan Edwards
toppest of keks
Jackson Powell
That one video was enough already.
That spectral realm was awful, it's supposed to look like dark, cold and lonely and not like straight out of Finding Nemo.
Camden Collins
>triple You mean quadruple
Lucas Barnes
bump
Caleb Barnes
I have no hope for future LoK games the only real way to go at this point it would just get modernized and becomes shit amy herself said thats the only way to go
Nicholas Flores
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Joseph Hall
Time for some Spider-Raziel images
Benjamin Cooper
>tfw this
Eli Reyes
this is why you dont reply to namefags
Christian Brown
you mean that game that look like it was just DmC but with legacy of kain's name and was so bad that it got cancelled
Joseph Hernandez
Yup. I don't know why I still try and hope for a better fate for this series but...
>Tony Jay is dead >Paul Lukather is dead >Michael Bell and Richard Doyle are in their seventies >Simon Templeman is at least in his sixties by now >Amy Hennig will never work on the series again
Adam Gomez
No, that was Defiance and it got released. Dark Sun was the one looking like asscreed.
Jonathan Taylor
I think this is bullshit because the rumors in the past were after Microsoft canned Phantom Dust reboot, CD was picked up to redo it.
They would be so incredibly early into a LoK game they wouldn't even do a CGI trailer yet
Gavin Gomez
You are missing the point I was pointing out the game looked like a needless reboot where the game itself is only in the franchise by name, is incredibly edgy, and tosses out anything that the fans were interested in and appears to be aimed at a fanbase that probably doesnt exist just like DmC to the DMC series
Henry Miller
Damn OP why are you getting our hopes up?
Andrew Bell
I have these games. What are they about?
Noah Nguyen
Vampires that talk in an overly verbose manner.
Ryan Moore
Just go play em and find out.
They're classics all of them.
Ryder Flores
Two vampires that try to alter the machinations of fate and defy the tyrannous stars.
Dylan Murphy
It's dead, OP. Let it die.
Let it fucking die. Please. Don't talk about it, don't fucking acknowledge it even if it's true. The best way to honor the series' legacy is to allow it a single, definitive death.
So please, don't fall for the hype. Even if it is real, let them see how little anyone cares and we just might be able to stop it.
Daniel Thomas
Is there a way to make these playable on modern systems?
Play them in this order: -Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain -Legacy of Kain: Blood Omen 2 -Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver -Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver 2 -Legacy of Kain: Defiance
They were released in this order: -Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain -Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver -Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver 2 -Legacy of Kain: Blood Omen 2 -Legacy of Kain: Defiance
Elijah Price
They're great, abstract and moody games about vampires with the best voice acting in all of vidya.
Isaiah Martin
Dont' listen to this asshole. Play in release order, but skip BO2. It'll just confuse you.
Adrian Gray
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Jose Rodriguez
BO2's definitely playable desu. It's the worst in the series, but it gives you the Hylden tidbits you'd otherwise miss
Bentley Price
No fuck that
Play all of them in the order they came out. BO2 is worth a play too even though it's the worst in the series. Still fun.
Logan Myers
>literally did nothing wrong.
Jayden Brooks
Kain is deified. The clans tell tales of him, few know the truth. He was mortal once, as were we all. However, his contempt for humanity drove him to create me and my brethren. I am Raziel, first born of his lieutenants. I stood with Kain and my brethren at the dawn of the empire. I have served him a millennium. Over time we became less human and more...divine. Kain would enter the state of change and emerge with a new gift. Some years after the master, our evolution would follow, until I had the honour of surpassing my lord. For my transgression, I earned a new kind of reward. Agony. There was only one possible outcome, my eternal damnation. I, Raziel, was to suffer the fate of traitors and weaklings: to burn forever in the bowels of the Lake of the Dead.
Cast him in.
Adam Phillips
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Oliver Green
Jesus fuck, she wrote that cliffhanger ending knowing full well she was leaving?
I mean I guess I get it in that she basically got to the point where Kain begins his redemption so it was a good time to hand off the torch but FUCK, we'll never see the end of that story.
Even if the series comes back, it'll be some spin-off or reboot. I guess she couldn't have known, especially since Dark Prophecy began development shortly after but that still grinds my gears.
Grayson Lopez
>you mean that game that look like it was just DmC but with legacy of kain's name
you talking about defiance?
Luke Cooper
She left three people in charge of the series when she left, people she trusted to get the job done.
Two of them left the company. The third one died in a car wreck.
Adrian Perry
>Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain
Guessing this one's not on Steam? Only have four and I'm pretty sure I bought the collection.
Blake Ramirez
It ended on a right note. If the series went on and depicted Kain solving all of world's problems, it would have felt like bullshit and you know it.
John Roberts
NONE of them work on modern systems anyways so it's irrelevant.
Kevin Myers
If it was somehow a crazy awesome HD remake with upscaled original audio and a vastly extended world for SR1 and 2, I would be a happy person. That'll never happen.
Xavier Jackson
>Two of them left the company. The third one died in a car wreck.
Literally story of LoK's life
Christopher Nelson
I'm pretty sure I replayed the series on W7 no problem. The first BO was the only game that acted up.
Austin Bell
Yeah the ports are half-assed. However, with X-padder you can make Soul Reaver 2 and Defiance work alright.
Soul Reaver has HUGE audio problems, with skipping sounds and some of the OST being missing.
Dreamcast or PS1 emulation is the go-to
Alexander Baker
I wouldn't mind it if we finally got Dark Prophecy. That was supposed to be the sequel to Defiance, showing Kain's redemption and his battle against the Hylden.
If they churn out anything different from that (ie a new protagonist in a far away time like Dead Sun), then we are fucked. They will just come up with new shit and lore without following any past indication and "rule" and the game will be a mess, like Dead Sun was shaping up to be.
Tyler Lopez
It is indeed not on Steam. It was released on PlayStation, so you can either buy it or emulate it.
Christian Evans
>new LoK title >without Tony Jay >without Paul Lukather >without Amy Hennig involved
No.
Gabriel Long
Heavens, no. Torrent the PC version and get it to work somehow. Life is too short for BO loading times on PS.
Jaxson Turner
Raziel's VA must be pushing 80 by now
Alexander Carter
Last year, someone linked a twitter from Simon Templeman where he was asked by a fan how old he was, since no place had that information, and he said he was in his 70s (73 IIRC).
Kevin Allen
Well it's not like he'd be needed anymore.
Luis Green
If they make a direct sequel to Defiance to finally give us a close ending, they won't need Paul Lukather (since Vorador is already dead) and people found a voice actor with a voice very similar to the great Tony Jay's.
It won't be the same, but they can use him to just give the Elder God some few lines before killing him.
Cooper Morales
fpbp, this 100%
Carson Reed
Of all the great game series lost to time, LoK hurts the most.
The broken steam releases was a bag of salt in the wound.
Alexander Johnson
Well, that's good to know. I know we'll never get what should have been an end to the series but it's nice knowing she didn't abandon it outright.
I know they can't replace them really but I'd rather have the series back (so long as they tried to make it feel like the same universe) than not.
Gavin Moore
Why do we need one? The series has a beginning, middle, and end. It wraps up nicely. Everything is finished.
user, when you continue to beat a dead franchise horse, you get bullshit like MGS5. Please don't enable that behavior.
John Garcia
Wtf you on user that isn't even the canon order of events.
Caleb Evans
The problem is I don't trust anyone nowadays to make a decent sequel for the LoK series.
Did it have its fair share of flaws? Sure, but the good outweighed the bad.
Now? Now it would be casualized. Now it would be made for people who never played a single LoK game in their lives, while the devs desperately tried to convince the rest of us how they're really big fans of the original games and so on.
Grayson Phillips
>It wraps up nicely. Everything is finished.
Except, you know, the main villain still not being defeated and several plot holes that need filling
Henry Barnes
>this man >74 years old
I hope he was trolling, because if he really is in his 70s, it means he truly is a vampire. He doesn't look 70+ AT ALL. Isn't it weird how NO place on the web states his age, though?
Isaiah Taylor
Care to specify the correct order then?
Thomas Robinson
This guy knows. No Hennig, no buy
Xavier Roberts
>wraps up nicely
but the janoshylden and the elder god are still around
Brandon Russell
I'd rather have a SR remaster with 100% reused audio assets and level design less about block pushing.
Lincoln Hall
Is it not the chronological order of events from the perspective of Kain prior to the time travel element? If not, I must've missed something.
William Jenkins
Wasn't that dealt with by young Kain in BO2? Or do we insist that game didn't happen?
Liam Anderson
The released order why the fuck would you play them in any other way.
Zachary Hill
agreed, best puzzle platformer games ever made but let them rest. I cant imagine how awful it would be...
>awesome environmental finishers replaced by qte prompts >Linear as fuck >awful atmosphere
pls no
Brody Robinson
I know this is a bad word around here but perhaps a 'petition' to tell Amy to get the back the fuck where she belongs and finish this shit is in order?
Austin Morales
fucker you haven't played the games, have you? The events of one of the pre-fuckup timeline in Defiance lead to BO2, technically. Only alteration post-Defiance is that Kain is now purified. Also, BO2 does not address the Elder God
Zachary Diaz
Actually, no. Dark Prophecy was going to answer many plotholes left and wrap up Janos' story, who is still trapped in the Demon Realm and is "quite mad", as Cabuco said. Kain was even supposed to meet him and defeat the Hylden with him, although Janos was going to have some further motive.
Also the Elder God is still around and Kain hasn't restored Nosgoth yet. Remember that the Kain you play as and see throughout the series is "corrupted", poisoned by Nupraptor's madness.
We would have seen an arrogant, cocky, but also more nuanced Kain about to finally save his land (almost like a vampiric Loghain).
Samuel Hernandez
If you go by that logic then yes that is the order but blood omen 2 doesn't happen till after soul reaver 2.
Henry Barnes
>that screencap
Robert Garcia
The story isn't finished. Defiance ended with Kain finally in a place where he can truly change his destiny, defeat the Elder God and redeem himself and Nosgoth.
I mean, they started Dark Prophecy not long after. The story is obviously not finished.
Grayson Brooks
>dat pic
Jordan Campbell
Well Kain is the main character, not Raziel. I prefer the idea of seeing these events happen in order of Kain's perspective, and then seeing Raziel figure it all out in the end.
Parker Cruz
Please God no, just let it stay dead.
None of the original crew will be working on it nor will Hennig. Just look at Nosgoth and Dead sun.
That is what happens when you let "fans of the series" make the next game while also trying to broaden the demographic to sell to as many people as possible.
Jayden Torres
>mfw going through Soul Reaver, my intoduction to this series, for the first time (on DC ofcourse), especially the opening cinematic
Fuck I wish I could experience that again.
Elijah Morales
Blood Omen Soul Reaver Soul Reaver 2 Defiance
Blood Omen 2 was not made by the same people or written by the same person, it can be ignored or played after Defiance.
Defiance was kind of written to compensate for Blood Omen 2, which now exists in its own timeline as a result of history altering events that take place in Soul Reaver 2 and Defiance.
Nicholas Roberts
Everyone always mention Raziel or Kain as having a hard life, but what about this poor fellow?
>took part in a bloody war against another race because his "god" ordered him so >watched his entire civilization and race get destroyed by a curse, saw friends kill themselves and other Guardians reject and abandon their duty >"accepts" the curse and keeps living to give the sword he must protect to the hero who will save the vampiric race >said vampiric race is a shadow of its former self and only twisted generations are born out of humans turned vampires >at least he has his "son"... oh wait, he lives in a mansion far away surrounded by concubines >the hero finally arrives, but he is also his murderer >gets his own heart taken out of his body while he is still alive >he is resurrected 500 years later and the first thing he is told is that his "son" is dead >tries to help the hero, but only gets possessed >spends centuries in a prison, tortured and stripped of his blood >turns into a beast >gets saved by the REAL hero, but gets tossed into the Demon Realm, where his enemy race lives and hates him above anything else
Janos had a hard life.
Landon Roberts
You forgot the worst part
Forgotten forever in the limbo because we won't get a new game
Jackson Barnes
Will be interested to see them turn it into a boring third person shooter with Riddler Trophies
Adam Murphy
This and Symphony of the Night are the games I most wish I could forget and replay. They blew my mind as a kid.
Lincoln Wright
you are missing 2 blood omen games
Nicholas Hill
VAE VICTAS!
Simon Templeman is a god among voice actors. Some of his lines are extremely memorable, especially in Blood Omen. His laugh alone is simply terrific:
this just look at nosgoth they mixed up dumah and turel ffs they don't give a shit they just wat to salvage their work
Colton Sanchez
it would have to be a reboot because the kids don't remember LoK, it would also have to be dumbed down because kids these days are retards
I say we ignore it and DO NOT TALK ABOUT IT, just like the VtMB sequel, we show no interest and it will go away
Levi Lopez
>Blood Omen Masterpiece, will forever be remembered as one of the best story telling games ever made.
>Soulreaver Mediocre, blatantly unfinished was rehashed into a LoK game from another game, story was basic and lackluster but not bad, had a decent amount of exploration. gained enough popularity to get a sequel.
>Soulreaver 2 Horrible game, shit story, linear gameplay, even more unfinished than the first game.
>Blood Omen 2 Another rehashed game, contrived plot barely fits into any of the other games plot, complete mess of a game both story and mechanically.
>Defiance Desperate attempt to fix loose ends and plot holes, fails horribly. abysmal game was the final nail in the coffin that killed the series.
