Zero Time Dilemma

ZTD thread.

What was (VLR spoilers) Sigma and Phi doing during the 3.5 months before going back to the future? Radical-6 got out on New Year's Eve, but they were still on Earth until April 13.

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Sigma was probably fixing his arms
Who knows regarding Phi.

Sigma was just kicking it until the switch happens maybe getting some arms

Phi was put into freezer instantly.
Sigma was trying to get a grip of situation.

Phi wasn't put into the freezer until the annihilation reactors all went off, which happened a few months after the events from the Mars Test Facility

>Phi
In ice.
>Sigma
Creating new arms.

Stream in an hour, fifteen minutes, boys.

steam preorder when

It's pretty simple
Siggy and Phi get abducted and their old selves participate in ZTD
OldSiggy then puts OldPhi into hibernation.
PostVLRSiggy wakes up and researchs cloning, while PostVLRPhi doesn't wake up.
PostVLRSiggy and PostVLRPhi become OldSiggy and OldPhi (But Phi remains youthful due to hibernation)
AbductedSiggy wakes up (in his aged body) and so does AbductedPhi (In her young body).
They solve VLR and become PostVLRSiggy and PostVLRPhi.
After that PostZTDSiggy and PostZTDPhi wake up after the end of VLR

What stream? What did I miss?

And this. I finally want to throw my money at them.

999 and VLR stream. We've finished 999 and moved onto VLR.

There's an user streaming ZE every weekend until release, every Friday, Saturday and Sunday at 4PM EST.

We finished 999 last weekend, and we got two VLR endings (Tenmyouji and Clover) and a lock yesterday.

hitbox tv / Blick-Winkel

Hey, uh, guys. This may not mean much, but I found something interesting.

There's an asteroid called 99942 Apophis that has a small chance of hitting Earth on April 13, 2029. The same day the nuclear shit happens that Tenmyouji talked about.

What if they never went off, and the destroyed Earth is actually the result of an asteroid?

It's a nice thought, but VLR explicitly shows at least one of the annihilation reactors going full doomsday.

True. Although they were pretty close to it and had a good view. Maybe Akane had them there on purpose to fool Blick Winkel into thinking it was that?

How the fuck did Akane and Sigma even survive that, it looked like they were close to the blast.

Considering they could see the full mushroom cloud, I'm guessing it was just a matter of being just far enough out of the danger zone.

We /blackboxgeneral/ now?

Phi wasn't frozen until April. Also, in the "Another Time" ending, when she was talking about being an x-factor, she said "It's taken me the last three and a half months to figure it out."

So some shit definitely happened in those 3.5 months. What was she doing?

Tracking down Akane so she can figure out why she was even involved in this whole fiasco.

Akane involved Phi in VLR so that she would absorb's Clover's ESPer powers, so as to prevent her from relaying information about Sigma back to Snake/Brother.

It's kinda neat. Junpei was used to power up Sigma. Phi was used to de-power Clover.

If this is true, then why not just not include Clover in the AB Game? Just use someone else.

How is Phi able to be in the past if she's sigma and diane's child?

Schrodinger's Cat

Why not just not include Dio?

She and Dio were sent by Brother. Dio snuck in, and Clover was in place when she tried to sneak into the facility. Akane changing either would ruin large portions of the necessary AB game results.

As for Brother, he only sent Dio as just the red herring - Clover's reconnaissance was what Brother was actually going for. Akane probably did try to prevent Clover and Dio from going, but those timelines likely didn't work out at all for various reasons. Allowing Clover to go while de-powering her is the one way to keep Brother completely in the dark - he won't know what's going on, and he doesn't even know if Clover's just being uncooperative, or incompacitated, or if she's being blocked.

All right, starting up the stream.

We'll continue with VLR in ~20 minutes

So, is it possible to even get a physical copy of ZTD in the EU? If no, can I preorder the downloadable version?

>So, is it possible to even get a physical copy of ZTD in the EU?

NOPE

>If no, can I preorder the downloadable version?

3DS yes, a few days before release, it'll preload most of it.

Vita no.

Steam yes to preordering, no to preloading.

Alright, that makes sense. One more thing, though.

Clover and Dio still hated each other. I mean yeah, it was probably an act. But there was even a timeline where Dio killed Clover, which is when she wrote "Dio" on her thigh to let Sigma and Phi know.

It adds to fooling the player into thinking VLR happens right after 999 at least.

LET'S GO BOYS

hitbox tv / Blick-Winkel

SEEK A WAY OUT

Come to think of it, what was Akane doing besides building a rocket to the moon?
She's there when Sigma wakes up, which implies that she met up with old Sigma before they switched again. Wouldn't he just have told her what happened at the site, or doesn't he remember either? I know this is Akane who always lies, but young Sigma waking up like that would assume his old self had talked to her, unless she found him unconscious and had spent 3 months tracking him down.

Just started VLR.
>Allice's allices
>Clover is somehow more of a semen demon than she was in 999 and also hasn't aged a day in 30 years

It's quite possible that Clover wasn't complicit with the whole thing.

In fact, it's possible that she didn't know anything about Snake and Brother's connections. Clover went there under the orders of SOIS, and was to relay information back to Snake (this part is actually stated in-game in VLR). What Snake does with the info after that (whether he sent it back to Brother or whether he IS Brother), there's no way Clover could know without him explicitly telling her.

So Duo's fully aware of his mission and is just the red herring, trying to distract everyone. He goes for Clover since he had never been with a woman (originally Uchi was going to have Dio rape her) and obviously Brother wouldn't tell him about her.

Clover has NO idea what Dio's up to, and quite likely only went to the test site to help the SOIS. Her passing on information to Snake is just part of their thing, nothing she should be worried about. She likely isn't working for Brother, at least knowingly.

It would also be extremely weird if Brother DIDN'T have a mole inside the SOIS, and Snake is in one of the best positions for Brother to abuse (whether he put Snake there or he is Snake).

>Just started VLR

LEAVE THIS THREAD

>(originally Uchi was going to have Dio rape her)
You know full well he never specified that.

Oh I see, that makes more sense. I was thinking Brother basically told Dio and Clover "Alright guys, go screw up the AB game" and they would be in on it together. But I guess Dio is the bad one, while Clover is the one who's giving information to Brother without realizing it, thinking she's just helping out.

Man that would be crazy if it happened.

While you're right, is there anything else the publisher would veto on ethical grounds? He did explicitly state that at least.

Dio wouldn't have raped Clover. The reason he was in the AB game in the first place is because it's implied he already raped or had sex with a girl. He said he "came into contact with someone unclean"' and that completing this mission would purify him.

I doubt he would do the same thing again during the mission.

Fuck termites, Sigma's cat tic had damn well better come back.

It's a pretty fun theory without too many holes, but most of the evidence is just circumstantial. Still would be amazing if it happened.

It really helps to explain why Phi was there too. Even now, looking at it from a "Phi is super important" viewpoint, there doesn't seem to be much of a reason for Phi to be there. Sigma has hardly needed her specifically for anything - her powers meant very little in the grande scheme of things so far. But if you look at it from a "Negating Clover's power is imperative", it makes a lot more sense why they needed Phi specifically.

From virtueslastreward.com/qahome/

>Q30: What prompts Dio to pull a knife on Clover? And why leave her and Tenmyouji alive after handcuffing them? Why not kill them with his knife, instead of risking them being found?
>Answer: Well, originally Dio was planning to do something even more messed up to Clover, but our president said NO to that idea for ethical reasons, so that scene was cut out."

While he doesn't explicitly say it, it's hard to imagine he meant anything else.

What else would he have done that the president had to refuse on ethical grounds?

Torture? Dio had a knife.

>Sigma?
>I don't think that part's coming off.

I don't know. I'm not saying you're wrong, it's just it seems kind of stupid for Dio to do the same thing that made him have to get his soul purified in the first place.

Maybe he was going to just beat the shit out of her? Or do something incredibly violent like ZTD? When VLR was made, they wanted to tone all of that down so it's possible.

They've blown people up from inside their stomach, locked them up for eternity, and Alice's dad was held hostage for 10 years and tortured.

Torture's not a problem. They wouldn't explicitly show it, but they would heavily imply it or even just say it without an issue.

>They've blown people up from inside their stomach
That was in 999, before they decided to tone it down for VLR.
>Alice's dad was held hostage for 10 years and tortured.
That was just mentioned in a narrated flashback. Actually showing a dead, tortured Clover would be different.

If Dio cut off her fingers and sliced open her stomach or something it's still not a scene they would have shown. 999 only had descriptions, and they deliberately toned down that kind of stuff in VLR.

>Dio is in the game on Brother's orders to mess up Akane and Sigma's plans
>The point with the AB project is to put Sigma and Phi in enough dangerous situations so their powers develop
>Dio creates most of the dangerous situations
What was Brother even trying to accomplish? Akane already had accounted for several failed timelines, Brother should know that those doesn't matter to espers who jump around.

Brother's master plan was ensuring Akane and Sigma's master plan works so his master plan works

How deep does it go?

>Sigma and Phi were actually working for Brother, so them succeeding in the AB project means Brother succeeds.
>But Sigma and Phi are actually working for Akane, and are pretending to be on Brother's side so they know what his plans are and how to stop him.

All according to keikaku.

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Sleep right writer

sleep fight writer

/r/ that pic of Uchikoshi in a BBQ.

>What was (VLR spoilers) Sigma and Phi doing during the 3.5 months before going back to the future?

fuckin

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Would that be twice-cooked pork?

I have a theory that Phi dies in the mars mission test site, what we see in VLR is actually her clone.

The fuck kind of theory is that?

they don't have cloning yet in 2028, the technology just isn't there yet. Same with Sigma's arms being clearly robotic instead of looking perfectly human like in VLR

Well, we never actually see Phi in VLR ending, according Akane she's already in cold sleep. But what if he is actually lying? I thought that there was this possibility of Phi being dead after the mars test experiment. Perhaps she's "dead and alive at the same time", her fate to be decided after opening the pod.

>leak happening literally any time now

I can't wait

[Spoiler]It's possible by whatever mechanism that was used to clone left like 80 years after he died [/spoiler]

Source?

less than 5 hours

In 5 hours? What did I miss?

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I swear, posters should be required to take a course in spoiler tagging before being allowed to post in ZE threads.

.cia got leaked on /vg/. It got taken down, but we get a stream in 5 hours from weekend stream man

Why even be in these threads if you haven't finished the games?

>in 5 hours
m8...

5 hours is a homebrew general meme

Because that shit gets read when you scroll through all the threads.

>But why are you scrolling instead of using catalog mode

Well...

Fuck you.

Now he's Left.

What am I looking at here?

Schrödingers cat

Link to the stream?

>Thinking it's a meme

Pavlov's dog

Enrique's parakeet

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Isn't that Q's helmet at the bottom of the helmet suit?
>double schrodinger's cat

I hope the new 999 gets ported to 3DS too.

If it gets ported to Vita and Steam then it makes sense to release it on 3DS too, where they actually can keep the twist like the original.

That last trailer made me think that Carlos is going to the be the psycopath.
The scene where's making that weird as fuck face sold me.

Carlos was already confirmed as a failed Left clone in the last scan.

He's absolutely going to be crazy.

That would leave you with an entire team of secretly crazy people though. It seems a bit too much.

The only thing revealed in the last scan about Carlos is that he is pure enough to bring a cat to prom.

I don't see why not,we though team Q was going too be full of crazy people,but Eric is said to be ''too pure'' and Mira is presented as insane,and i don't think ukinochi would make the obvious true again.

What did it say?

>ukinochi

Was team Q scan translated?
I only saw C.

Yeah, but not typeset. Q likes celery with peanut butter and Eric is a pure weeb.

Only C.

All the Q scan says is "Eric's unstable, Mira's insane, and Q's adorable" anyways.

Help.

Hitbox, Blink-Winkel.

Can someone post C scans again?

Uchi also said the player characters are good people, and while it might not be true we still control them, so I don't think any of them are outright psychopaths. Besides, if Carlos really is crazy them he's swole enough to murder both Akane and Junpei once they start to lose it.

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Akane and Junpei are have both jumped far, far, far off the deep end.

Carlos has NO idea what he's gotten himself into.