Ouya vs. Steam Box

Which was worse?

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I guess the steam machines if you can't even remember what they are called.

I never knew the Steam Machine was released.

I use my Link and Steam controller all the time.

It's not a single device. It's basically an OS that Valve is providing to OEMs to put on gaming-centric, small form factor PCs.

That's stupid.

Ouya because it's got funded through kikestarter.

>youtube.com/watch?v=xTqhyHuKVKA
it died as it lived

What's worse is that they cost way more than consoles for similar processing capabilities.

store.steampowered.com/search/#category1=993

store.steampowered.com/app/353390/?snr=1_7_7_230_150_1
>starting at $449
Cheapest one has a 4th gen i3, 4GB of ram, and the GPU is simply "Nvidia GTX GPU", which doesn't say much.

It makes sense, consoles operate on x86 architecture now and are just underpowered PCs in all but name. The line will only get blurrier if the industry keeps going the way it's going.
If PCs and consoles do unite into one mess sometime in the future, better it be a linux-based system with Vulkan integration than some Microsoft-nVidya anti-freedom garbage.

Steam machines were made by 3rd parties that didn't cost Valve any money to risk and even earned them money from all the commisions.

Ouya was literally millions of dollars dumped in the trash.

Ouya
>smartphone tier hardware
>smartphone software
>smartphone games on tv screen
>basically a handicapped phone with no touch screen

Steam Machine
>pc hardware
>pc software
>pc games on tv screen
>basically a pre-built computer with a special os

The PC hardware was terrible and overpriced though.

You can build your own PC with your own reasonably priced hardware, install the Steam OS for free and use the Steam controller sold separately.

It's not even a question. Ouya.

Steam OS is terribly unoptimized than Windows.

The real question is why would you do that.

This is the biggest problem with the launch of Steam Machines.

The only vaguely notable system so far is the Alienware Alpha, which by the time the SteamOS version released was already out of date, while the existing Windows version had already been out for a year at the same price.

Maybe it'll get better with Zen and Polaris. AMD is cheaper and would make more sense on something targeting console-like prices. There's a good reason PS4 and Xbone don't use Intel.

Linux is fine, it's the game ports and drivers that aren't as great.

Has there EVER been a kickstarted project that's turned out good?
I've got a feeling that anyone competent, with a good business plan and shit, can just go out and get some investors without involving begging for free money.

Divinity?

That was different, they have experience.
Most Kickstarter projects are indie devs.

amazes me how people still donate to these things.
there was this one incident where a guy's dev team stole fundraiser money and threatened a lawsuit if he reported them.

Off the top of my head:
>that new Giana Sisters game
>Shovel Knight
>Tadpole Treble
>Pebble watch

ouya
shit hardware
shit software
shit use, you can literally use a shitty smartphone and get better results.
it was a bad idea from the very start of it.

Steam Box because at least people remember Ouya.

Except game consoles are highly specialized for gaming and use the architecture and hardware they have totally differently than a PC. There are large similarities, but a console is a super specific machine that has one main function and is laser focused/designed just for gaming and pushing polys out it's butt hole.

A PC isn't, and is usually randomly assembled parts that don't really work well in conjunction

its remembered because it flopped harder than the N-gage. virtual boy and Vita together.

Steam Machine, it was just an excuse for Valve to add GNU/Linux support and get more consolefags into their scamming scheme. They then drop it because their excuse to do so didn't hold up. This ended the users who bought in to the promise up with a glorified broken Debian GNU/Linux system with spyware.

Ouya failed because it was a glorified Android phone with HDCP DRM, preventing content creators from creating videos, which led to no games because there were no people buying it in addition to promoting jailbreaking which in game companies eyes means piracy.

At least the steam box ran Linux instead of fucking Android. Anything besides phones or tablets that run are running android I imediatelly dismiss as something with value

Ouya because I literally use mine as a bookend. The Shield TV is what it should've been.

Steam Machines will at least continue to get indirect support from Linux ports. What they need to get off the ground is some media apps and a lower price and they can kick consoles' asses.

>Referring the entire OS simply as "Linux"

Sony TVs are alright. Even if "smart" TVs are unnecessary, when the market is flooded with them, standard Android is probably better than the alternative that other manufacturers have.

Shut up Bill Gate

Shut up Bill Gate

Shut up Bill Gates.

Shut up Bill Gate

But why would you do that?

Sghup Up Gil Gates

>Steam Controller

Linux+systemd+X11+dpkg+vim is my favorite OS.

There's usually some GNU mixed in too but that doesn't really matter.

A gift to a tablet-addicted nephew to ween him onto PC?

>Systemd
For what purpose?

it's better than writing buggy shell scripts for everything that has to handle all the possible edge cases manually

Systemd is terrible.
Everything from incompetent lead developers, scope creep to terrible design and stability issues

>but a console is a super specific machine that has one main function and is laser focused/designed just for gaming and pushing polys out it's butt hole.
That's becoming less true now more than ever, and even if it were true there don't appear to be any benefits with sub-30fps being the name

Also Poettering is in a league of his own.

Too bad, you have to use it if you want a modern Linux distro that isn't Gentoo, Android, or ChromeOS.

systemd may be far from perfect, but it's at least better than the alternatives for now.

>stability issues
Less stable than SysV? I'd be amazed if they can manage that, unless you mean strictly under the Debian dictionary where "stable" means "ancient".

STEAM machines failed, but the Ouya crashed it's company with no survivors, twice.

bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=918226
bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1167044
bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=825394

The last one is comedy gold.