Which is the better open world action rpg game?

Which is the better open world action rpg game?

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Witcher has the better world design
DD has the better combat

Witcher

It's no contest

>DD
>better than Witcher 3 in any way

yeah you might consider killing yourself right about now

DD before they lost the licensing for the berserk armor on PC.

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Wanted to say this. Witcher 3 has shitty combat but is better in every other aspect. DD's world has no personality

Witcher 3 hands down.

but he's right user

DD is actually fun to play

if you want to rain meteors, shoot lightning out of your eyeballs and do a 450 splash off the top rope, DD. If you want story and a world that isn't tiny witcher 3.

the game that came out but nobody new it had prequals

Witcher 3 has better character models, voice acting, quests, and writing.

Dragon's Dogma has better lighting, combat, replayability, loot/gear, and RPG mechanics.

OP, are you off your loony pills? A small town and a kingdom vs all of the places to visit in The Witcher 3?

Witcher 3 combat is very average, nothing really good or bad to say about it. Both games are very weak in RP mechanics, they're really just action games

>no personality
Nice bussword

Dragons Dogma has better combat, better monster design (most of the time), and the post game story and BBI story are better than anything Witcher 3's story has
Witcher has better literally everything else, including main campaign story which was utter dogshit in DD save for some grigori dialogue

>people will say TW3 is better
>their argument will be "there's more padding in the world"
DD isn't dogshit meant to cater to normies who've never been exposed to literary prose before.

>It's not an exact copy of these other games, and that’s not good
>being original is bad now
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And more than DD just having better combat, it has a better sense of accomplishment and an epic fantasy feeling.

The dragons and other large monsters are really cool, better than any other game pretty much.

Why does everyone praise DD's combat so much?

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Combat aside DD is more or less a low quality single player MMO

A WHOPPING 0 DAMAGE FUCKING SAVAGE

DD has better combat, but the rest is just so boring.
The world is completely dead, it has absolutely no plot, and it's just grinding and grinding.

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because it's actual good

It's fun. Though saying its better than The Witcher 3's combat isn't exactly praise.

It's up to 313,000 now but yeah that's bad.

RIP DD2.

I KILLED IT THOUGH.

definitely witcher 3
DD combat is overrated

>Complety new and unknown rpg
>Almost no ad
>Somehow expecting 10 FUCKING millions to be sold

And this is why Capcom fucking sucks

>Blast Arrows Dogma vs the Spin2winner 3

And this was cool.

I actually just fought it in slow motion using magic while my shitty pawns took it out.

I'M HELPING.

It's not saying that, it's saying it doesn't really do any particular element well save for the combat.

A WITCHA!!!

If CDPR and Capcom joined forces for DD2 it would be a 10/10 game.

Just because Witcher 3 doesn't allow character customization or soft skills doesn't make it a poor RPG. One method of making a role playign game is to design a game in such a way as to force the player to think like the player character, and Witcher 3 actually does a rather good job of making you feel like you are in Geralt's shoes. The lack of soft skills reflects his lack of social tact and non-combat solutions, the way in which the player must prepare for facing certain enemies on a hunt reflects the Witcherly lifestyle, and the game does a REALLY good job of making the player care about Ciri before all else.

Why else would you play an action rpg?

DD's world design was kind of boring IMO. Japs are weird about open world.

And yet, the narrative (or lack thereof) I found to be far more gripping than that of TW3.

If there's any game that gets more praise than it deserves, it's TW3.

but dragon's dogma does everything but graphics and cutscenes better

>better fashion
>better combat
>better enemy variety (i know, i know; such great heights)
>better architecture
>better leveling system
>better exploration and secrets
>more rewarding weapon/armor upgrade system
>vastly more gameplay variety

I'm not disagreeing with the rest of what you said but having shitty customization and loot in general does damage the RPG gameplay.

A focus on dialogue is all good for WRPGs but the gameplay should be more important.

Man if Dragon's Dogma had Witcher 3 levels of content it'd be fucking great.

Shame it's so fucking tiny, you've got like 1 city, 3 dungeons if you count the DLC, and the DLC is pretty anemic at that.

DD is a really cool game but there just isn't enough of it. I wish it had more quests, and not just boring as shit notice board ones where you collect bullshit and turn it in for a pointless reward but actual quests with events stories and interesting things to do.

People have fun in different ways, I think Witcher's combat isn't that bad, and it's more immersive for sure.

It's chaotic and fun. Having minions creates some interesting fights.

>If there's any game that gets more praise than it deserves, it's TW3

I can think of some worse examples

DD would've been so much better if it was just a dungeon crawl game like dark souls

Well I played DD because it was fun and it was just interesting for gameplay sakes leveling up the pace was very nice not to slow or fast I never had to grind, and trying out all the vocations was great, and I actually did like exploring every nook and cranny because they acutally put useful items in odd places. Then BBI was literal crack because they handled the loot incredibly well.

W3 was amazing to look at and walk through but to play it wasn't interesting, combat wise it's just to samey and they didn't handle the loot economy well at all despite having a large selection of weapons and armor 90% of them felt useless compared to Witcher gear. If you like quest detail and to read a lot then I guess you'd like it more, I never read everything but what I did read I was impressed that they actually put the effort in to make even the simplest fetch quest have some sort of backstory. Plus just the effort they did in the lay of the land and making pretty much everything look different I mean I can't really think of another game with the level of detail they put in, plus it has like 5 languages or something it's kind of mind boggling that they managed to do so much.

your attacks feel like they have weight behind them

TW3 graphics overall are better but Dragon's Dogma has better lighting.

Witcher 3 is the best written game ever made, what I enjoy most about it has nothing to do with it's graphics - though of course it's no slouch there what with having the most atmospheric and gorgeous open world since RDR. Same reason why I don't care about the combat and roll my eyes at people criticizing it heavily for that.

I definitely prefer Backtracking: The RPG to Pirouette Gigolo: The RPG

The Bitterblack Isle expansion pretty much was a dungeon crawler. I wish there was more of it.

>flaming sword casts no light
>"better lighting"
wat

Dragons

The game should have just played like those MMO-themed animes where the heroes follow a plot and just clear through dungeons.

I'd like that.

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>Witcher 3 is the best written game ever made

how


how.

I'd be more inclined to forgive the lack of character creation if you weren't forced to play as the worst fucking character in any RPG ever, and I played Final Fantasy 13.

desu senpai, the bar is set pretty low to begin with.

>worst fucking character in any RPG ever
you haven't play that many rpgs

>if i like one aspect of a flawed game then other people are idiots for pointing out its flaws

ok

it does have great writing, the overall narrative suffers though because of the open world game structure.

I liked the openness and freedom of DD but I do wish it had a similar weapon placement to souls. A lot of weapons in souls usually aren't direct upgrades of eachother and can be found throughout the world, in DD 99% of all the weapons you want can just be found in gran soren and they are always just straight upgrades of the previous weapon. Wish it was more like souls where I could go through the game with the basic sword if I upgraded it enough. Would be a lot better for fashion as well.

>Witcher 3 is the best written game ever made

Just to be totally claer, you are saying that Witcher 3 is better written than . . .

>I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream
>The West Coast Fallouts
>Morrowind
>Silent Hill 2
>Deus Ex
>Red Dead Redemption
>System Shock 2
>Knights of the Old Republic II
>Metal Gear Solid 2
>Grim Fandango
and
>Planescape Tournament

Because if you are seriously saying that not a single one of these is even ON LEVEL with Witcher 3, then you are a colossal idiot of the highest proportion

Oh, but TW3 is the epitome of normies overselling a game. For most people, it's the first time they've ever been exposed to actual writing. I've found JRPGs that are far more compelling in their storytelling - with a greater sense of urgency, as well.

Infinite at least had promise and was somewhat interesting. If anything fell short, it was the ending and gameplay. Also the fact that you couldn't fight Songbird, despite all the buildup towards your supposed inevitable confrontation.

i agree

stage one is easy, 2nd stage is annoying

That's just a random webm. Take a look at the environment around that though, that's superior to TW3 which has a lot of elements that aren't shaded by environmental lighting.

Weapon enchants don't cast lights but basically everything you emit does. Lots of examples in this webm.

It isn't, you just play WRPGs only or something. TW3's writing is consistent and the presentation is good, but it's not a tale worth remembering and it's full of holes.

I feel a bit bad for W3 because even though it's so detailed sometimes you just want to run to the objective and get it done already but then it feels like you missed out on all the little details or whatever.

>bussword

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i also missed weapons having different movesets like in souls games

Even JRPGs have better writing than it, garbage like FFX even.

>Geralt
>bad character

user, he's literally just a fantasy version of the classic Byronic Hero archetype of Romantic literature. By saying that Geralt is a bad character, you are saying that you know better than most English academics of the last two hundred years.

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Where the fuck is SMAC on that list

What the fuk is dragons dogma?

WHY HELLO
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT VIDEO GAMES
HOW R U

FUCK how did I forget one of my favorite games?

>one mob in the entire game for some reason just sits there trying to block makes the game bad

Dragons dogma

Witcher isn't an RPG at all. Its action adventure.

Witcher is a better RPG
DD is a better action game

the RPG elements in DD make me want to pull my hair out. It should have gone full MH and had no leveling up. The way stat growth works is absolutely disgusting

They're both action RPGs, stop changing definitions.

Dragon's Dogma is actually fun to play and lets you play a wide variety of characters both in appearance and in terms of how they fight.

Witcher is a poor action game with some good writing attached to it.

>posting list of games with nothing to back it up.
>muh nostalgia classis geams are better

The armor system in the game is seriously some of the worst defense design I've seen in any RPG. I still love the game's combat, but holy shit, who thought it was a good idea for it to be frequently possible for armor to completely NEGATE all damage?

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>making baseless statements about the only game you've ever played

>It involved a dragon and ... a dog's mother?
>>>>Someone actually thought this was clever and/or funny enough to share with their readers

well
ur gonna get nerve stapled for that

Actually some of my favorite written games ever are post-2007, but I don't specify them because Sup Forums gets fucking anal about it

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these webms are unfair, witcher combat is made for fighting large groups

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Whats with these stupid spinning attacks

Does he not have any other moves?

But it doesn't I don't think it's possible to even take 0 damage.