What makes these games good?

What makes these games good?

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Lolis

It's a really well done dungeon crawler.

That and waifus. EOV when

Strangely enough, its rehash series done right, and its fucking amazing.

Thrown in some new classes, maybe some old ones as well.
Put it in a different setting but have tie-ins to the older titles for continuity.
Expand on the systems a little bit to keep it fresh.
And of course, make a bitching soundtrack to go with it.

Easily in my top 5 vidya series

It's an okay dungeon crawler but its fanbase acts like its the only good dungeon crawler to exist and refuses to acknowledge other good drpgs

Maps are fun to draw

EO V comes out in Japan in August, so earliest would be next year in spring.

The allure of drawing your own map is appealing at first, boring in execution. Maybe if it wasn't all square tiles.

I wish they would expand on the maps. add more forms of motion/direction/whatever

its more like

>I don't own a vita or psp so I can't play the other good dungeon games.

I like EO a lot but its average at best.

image related is a real fucking dungeon crawler with a really fucking good soundtrack.

Name any modern dungeon crawlers worth their salt

Wanna recommend some others aside from Wizardry?

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Filename shoulda been dankestspire.jpg desu.

played one EO game
died in less than 5 fights because everyone was weak as shit despite being a recommended party
no healing or anything and first enemies just rape you in the ass before you can even level

terrible dungeon crawler game, I've played far better ones

when do you think the FOE design will come full circle and there will be a superboss that's a literal FOE ball again?

More like summer

Bosses, FOE's and classes are great, don't like anything else about it though

Dungeon Travelers 2
Strange Journey

First answer was the correct one.

The series is shit, and isn't popular for any reason besides the pedophile content. The music is generic RPG maker shit, the combat is garbage, it's just a bad game in general. If you were only given the option to make a party of old men no one would have given the series a chance.

I think I must be the only one who hated strange journey. I got to the third floor or some shit and just got sick of grinding. Maybe I should go back and give it another shot, but I just remember it being awfully grindy from the get go with no option of choosing better shit/classes to mitigate it.

>Dungeon Travelers 2
Yes, this is clearly better than all the other EO killers Vitagen loves to shill

Lolis.

The dungeon crawling is mediocre, graphics are shit, it rehashes classes and skills out the ass, same story over and over again, autistic mapping (can't believe they haven't made this automatic already), decent at best combat system, awful 3D...

I could go on.

>DT2
>better than EO
nigga what?

So you haven't played it.
Typical EO baby.

Autism.

Autism makes them good.

Dungeon Travelers 2 gets praised a lot but I felt it wasn't that great honestly. It was a lot better than Demon Gaze and Operation Abyss sure but still wasn't good. SJ was great though

Stranger of Sword City is also really nice


I saw a trailer for a Vita game, it kinda looked nice with a a bit of horror mixed in there as well, but I forgot its name

It has far better maps than anything EO does.
EO has better class selections and party building.

Just watch, it's going to come out before Persona 5

I bet you think that Sorcery Saga is the best mystery dungeon don't you

Etrian Odyssey is a poor man's 7th Dragon 2020.

seriously though the dark spire is better than every eo game.

Fucking two graphic sets and audio sets : dank/10. Non linear exploration choices. Sick OST.

Only real problem is the game flat out required you opt into magic for the later stages/post game. Fucking massive swarms of enemies.

Also game follows the classic rule of being way too fucking hard at the start for babbies as well as having some serious luck bullshit early on that can ruin casuals(low hp rolls).

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Basically man up and put it on your 3ds cart.

Haven't played it.
Haven't really played many mystery dungeon games, actually the only ones i've played are Pokemon ones. Super was pretty good.

7th Dragon was fucking ass.

Sell me on 2020 and that new one coming out soon

The new one sucks.

Music, loli's and map drawing

They don't rehash labyrinths, which is what the game is about.

It's actually not terrible. If you can pick it up for cheap go for it. It's got some nice humor that makes up for the piss easy gameplay.

Its fanbase doesn't understand proper dungeon crawlers like Ultima Underworld or Legend of Grimrock. They prefer dumber and easier games with lolis.

7th is worse than EO.

7th 2020 is the one you should be looking to get into. Better dungeons, characterization, plot, party building, pacing...

Is just a lot better.

Im at the final secret dungeon boss at eo4 and I cant really beat him. I went through the game without any crowd control other than poison circle so I cant deal with the tentacles fast enough. Is it possible to do this or do I need to finally change my team for this boss?

Either reincarnate until you win or swap class comp.

Pretty much this. EO is my madden. The core is so rock solid that all you need to do is change up the classes and add some QoL stuff and I'm game for another year.

Is 2020 the one that's already leaked for pirate fags and is coming out in july?

Strange Journey was great, but the combat of EO is much more fleshed out. Also, I love drawing maps and marking them myself. Teleporters in SJ were fucking hell because I couldn't make markers.

I'm doing the postgame of EO3 and I'm getting pretty frustrated. I remember that in EO1 you basically needed a very specific party to take on the extra bosses, is that the same case here? I managed to kill the fire dragon but the Kraken, Anemone and that other plant girl thing are basically one shotting me.

That's 2020-III.
2020 is the one that got an english patch a few months back.

Got any more recommendations?

Cartography, really nice difficulty curve.

Grimrock was great.

You're meant to fuse and recruit demons user.

From the games I've played in no particular order

>Good
EO series (3 > 4 > U2 > U1)
Dungeon Travelers 2
Strange Journey
Dark Spire
Legend of Grimrock 1
SMTIV (if it counts)

>Bad
Demon Gaze
Operation Abyss
Unchained Blades

>What the fuck were you thinking
Class of Heroes 2
7th Dragon

What next famalamalams?

Grimrocks combat makes it autistic as fuck. That said I enjoyed 2 a lot more than the original.

Stranger of sword city?
Sakura dungeon

may be outdated~

Why was Demon Gaze bad?

I would be more into EO if building your characters wasn't a fuck. Skills that are only worth it in their first level and anything else are wasted points, respecs requiring grind to get back up to spec, among other things. Pretty much forces me to look up guides, which I don't want to.

Eo 1 and 2 are better than the untold editions.
Stupid balance changes desu senpai. Only advantage is sidestepping making shit faster.

Top tier gameplay, music, art and waifus.

>played king's field 4
>get really fucking hyped about demon's souls release

Holy shit man, it was like perfect timing that this series I just played got revived out of fucking nowhere.

I could autobattle through the first 1/3 of the game on the hardest difficulty which was Hot or something like that. Got boring as fuck super fast.

muh immunize

>Stupid balance changes desu senpai.
Yes, having immunize as the win button is a much more well balanced game

EO2 had sidestepping if I recall correctly. And they're both clearly worse than their remakes despite grimoires being stupid as fuck

I got EO4 recently and I find myself slowing down to a crawl to mapdraw. This is fine but I'm afraid I'll be progressing at a snail's pace because of this. Any tips on how to efficiently mapdraw and progress at the same time?

Can you completely ignore Grimoires and be fine?

It's actually legitimately good. You'd be surprised by how deep the mechanics are. I don't know how it stacks up against EO but it's not bad by any stretch

Yeah, I did just that in EO1

I learnt how to do it really fast after the second stratum, but now I spend all the time looking at the bottom screen instead of the top screen, which is a shame. Don't try to force yourself to draw faster, that'll only make it boring, but you will get better.

>tfw the original had so much potential to be a great hidden gem
>the fucking flowers bullshit ruined everything

It's probably the best Vita dungeon crawler I've played. You should really play the EO games too though if you haven't already.

I just auto map because I'm lazy

>The music is generic RPG maker shit

Yo, is class of heroes 2 really that bad?

I really enjoyed number 1

>Etrian Odyssey U comes out
>It isn't on the Wii U

EO Untold 3 fucking when?
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I never played 1 so I don't know how they compared. The fact that your characters could lose stats when they level up and no BGM when dungeon crawling made me drop that game fast

Oh shit. The Keep looks neat.

2 bombed in Japan apparently so who knows

Does dungeon travellers 2 work on vitatv? Also is there a chink import with english that doesn't cut out the retarded lewd shit that I need.

Sometimes I want to buy a vita but the fact that I'd probably pay more for a memory card than the console bothers me.

Luckily we got that track in IV
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But yeah, 3 is pretty broken

It did?

Of course things had to go wrong when it was the best EO game's turn to have a remake.

Yes, it does work on the Vita TV.

If you're using a Vita TV, you can just connect the console to your network and swap games on/off the console as you want to play them.

Sell this game to me Sup Forums
I have decent standard and I don't buy games just for loli waifus

>there will never be a Strange Journey remake on the 3DS
>with mapdraw, an orchestral soundtrack, additional demons from SMT4 (Final), an extra dungeon
>all on the EO Untold 1/2 engine
This is painful

Do you like dungeon crawlers? No? Fuck off to another series because you definitely won't like it.

Never tried one? Give it a shot

I'd love an SMT 1 and 2 remake in the EO engine honestly

They decided to release it the same week as Smash 4 and ORAS for some reason.

The loli waifus don't even matter. They're just character portraits who never say anything.

The game is nothing but solid dungeon crawling, and that's completely fine.

Dungeon crawling with pleasant music, while drawing maps and using your imagination.

Also, you can try them through the demos for the 3DS games (which let you continue the game if you purchase it). Or pirate the DS games. Or pirate the 3DS games if you got the right 3DS

They're on sale often enough

Make it happen yourself.

They only edited 3 CG and it was relatively minor. It's not exactly something worth trying to bypass considering an uncensored English version doesn't exist. I'd say just get it (used if you wish)
If you want a lewd DRPG, get Moe Chronicle. It's pretty damn good. Not as deep as DT2 but still good.

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I love this theme.

None of the games mentioned have combat as good as EO.

Never, hopefully. Untold is trash and was a mistake and cancer.

Why was IV's soundtrack better than the other games?

Like the other games had great tracks like Cherry Blossom Bridge, EO2's first battle theme, EO3's battle theme, boss theme and FOE theme and EOU1's final boss theme, but overall their tracks weren't as solid as EOIV's.

I'm a huge fan of old school dungeon crawlers but liking dungeon crawlers is not a reason to buy every dungeon crawler I see
Well now were talking
Comfy dungeon crawlers are definitely my thing

#1 dark spire dick sucker

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