what the fuck was that
>"THE BEST FIGHTING SYSTEM WE HAVE EVER MADE"
>noctis standing around getting clobbering like a fucking idiot
>dodges huge generic arm swipe with a generic warp-dodge instead of jumping over it or evading it
>not doing shit to the imperial enemies
>"hit" titan with attacks which have absolutely no impact at all
>win with a huge cinematic QTR
What the fuck was that
not a great showing thats for sure
They should go with Shadow of the Colossus combat. At least with giant enemies.
It's amazing to me that people think that that was supposed to happen.
They fucked up.
And when he finally reset the demo it fight literally ends in 3 seconds and goes into QTE
they already have the toolset created for it
just look at the skyscraper teleporting and all that. Fuck were they thinking
I blame Tabata
Versus XIII played like Kingdom Hearts once upon a time. Tabata can't into combat. Type 0 is proof of this
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>"THAT WAS GWEAT"
>inb4 stupid webms
>b-but you can teleport around so much!
>You probably didn't even get the shield and shuriken!!
all hype is dead
>inb4 Tabata has now cucked Nomura again and will develop KH3!
You guys remember when you went apeshit over that mediocre demo? Yeah. That's what they had spent all that time on. The demo and this shitty E3 trailer. They're probably rushing the actual development on the game right now, since its obvious they've finally committed to releasing it. But all they've had is a successive list of engines they developed to use for the game with no actual assets outside of trailer stuff. It's gonna be a shit game.
Fuck off.
Fuck off, it's the same shit.
Samefag.
>that defense force
Nomura in 2013 specifically said XV is not like KH you fuck.
do it yourself then.
No
People saw a trailer, and now they are stating their feelings on such.
user I'm referring to the combat here:
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Which looks much better than what we have now. And playing the Platinum Demo wasn't exactly great either.
The best part about that travesty of a demonstration is that it was so clumsy I couldn't even tell what they were trying to do at all. What was supposed to happen? Were buttons not working? Was that the first time he'd ever picked up the game? He just stumbled around, then it looked like they cut to a recording or something. Then the look on their faces was completely and utter misery. This will probably be my highlight for this year.
My guess is that the guy who played never played the game before and didn't know what he was supposed to be doing.
Tabata's face during this was so stone cold
>Caring about Final Fantasy in (current year)
Final Fantasy stopped being important when the combat moved away from turn-based, and when voice acting was brought into it.
No one cares about this boy band shit.
And yes, you autists, the ATB system is still turn-based.
I'm losing something here, what is new about XV? I thought they said nothing will be revealed after that show.
They showed gameplay at Xbone's e3
O shit, I couldn't stand the presentation and closed it. Gonna look into it.
Final Fantasy X, XII, XII: Revenant Wings, and Lightning Returns were all great user. And Type 0, Duodecim Dissidia, and Crisis Core were all decent.
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So you can claim ATB as turn based but not 12? Pretty sure the characters take turns in that too, even if it's not MY TURN, NOW ENEMY TURN.
I was really hyped for this game but this was disaster, if they were thinking that this part of the game was worth showing on E3 then I just don't know anymore.
Was there ever a situation, when someone showed a shitty segment of the game on the presentation, and the game itself turned out to be good?
the poor dude who played the game is already writting his will with his knife on the side
there's no way he'll ever recover from this
That combat is identical to what XV currently has.
>weapon combos, dodge rolls, jumping, warps, magic
Same fucking thing.
Well, I really enjoyed what I saw, but I think they didn't get what they wanted to really show there.
I miss turn based mainline Final Fantasy.
At least there's still World of FF
>XII: Revenant Wings
>great
The game that managed to actually kill the Ivalice Alliance? I think not
You're both retarded.
The only truly good FF game since X is XIV. I don't even care if XV fails, which it will. Everything anyone could possibly want from Final Fantasy is in XIV.
After experiencing "combat" in the Platinum Demo, my excitement for XV took a nosedive.
No its fucking not
>always face the direction of the enemy in combat
>never move clumsily away in a direction away from the enemy unless purposefully dodge-rolling backwards
>aerial combat keeps you sustained in the air without falling while continuing to do combos
>movement across the battlefield is slower while retaining a decent speed in combat
>all attacks have enemy knockback, making your attacks have weight to them
None of that is the XV we have now. That's fucking Kingdom Hearts.
>Revenant Wings
>Killed Ivalice Alliance
How? It was a welcome addition to Ivalice, adding even more lore to an already lore-ridden world. It took Vaan and made him a hero with a personality, rather than having him as just a lowly side character in XII. The struggles of the Aegyl were legitimately interesting. Seeing Lluyd grow and understand sky pirates better and decide to confront his own god in an attempt to gain back the emotions he so desired was cool. The story was strong. The gameplay was a quality RTS. Having Bgamnan as a party member briefly was fucking awesome.
But XII is miles better than X and XIV both.
This. Maybe its for the better.
>How?
Because it was the game no one wanted, it also went against the message Vaan learns at the end of the first game, he said that the whole Pirate thing was just him wanting to run away from responsibility and it was made by that faggot TOriyama who did a hackjob at not only introducing some OP as fuck asshole when the Occuria were already the only ones to control the flow of history and it sold so fucking badly they killed it to make way for that piece of shit Crystalia or whatever the fuck that is about the whole FFXIII world that doesn't fucking get used in the games and outright contradicts the games.
I like XII but holy fucking shit Revenant was horse shit
XII is literally just a worse XIV without multiplayer though. Anyone who thinks XII is better hasn't played XIV, and that's a fucking fact. Don't even try to deny it.
Hi Tabata.
>aerial combat keeps you sustained in the air without falling while continuing to do combos
I feel like I'm a brick with legs from what I played of XV. Why are we even given the option to jump if we drop out of the air so damn fast?
Fuck "realism," Square-Enix. Realism isn't a necessity here.
not all the big ones are abandoning turn based
The ending of XII hinted that Balthier was inviting Vaan to come with him to Galbados, as shown in the letter Vaan received. If Vaan truly gave up on the sky pirate thing all together, then that means XII fucked itself up at the end. Not Revenant Wings.
Yeah sure, Vaan realized that it was him running away from responsibility, but does that necessarily mean he didn't want that life at all? Especially after all the adventuring he did in XII?
I had high hopes for this game but now I can see it as the first FF game getting a yellow metacritic score
Didn't inspire confidence in me to buy. Haven't played a Final Fantasy since X2 over a decade ago.
He said he was first going mature before going at it together with Penelo instead of just running away on his own like their family did to them
Fucking Atlus is so based.
>EO5, P5, and SMTIV Final all looking fantastic
But I have played XIV
>teleports fucking everywhere
>mash X to continously attack
>floats in the air for several seconds
Shit is so bad. The art style is the only thing they got right
What the hell m8, that was just Balthier showing he was actually alive
I'd say the music is top tier too
This. It's great being a fatlus.
seriously
it looked like complete fucking garbage
i honestly couldn't comprehend what he was trying to do
why the fuck are all the posts minimized for me?
That shit was absolute ass. Like, it was actually awful.
>the guy playing had no idea what he was doing
>boss kept doing the same two attacks over and over
>he kept getting hit
>suddenly, the boss is injured from him doing absolutely nothing besides getting his shit knocked around
>QTE
And then it was over. Oh, and the graphics looked like shit, but I'll chalk that up to it being shown on an """""Xbox One"""""""
Fuck this stupid ass game, I can't wait for Persona 5 and KH3, games with actual combat systems. If you buy FFXV and make fun of anyone else for enjoying cinematic games like Uncharted 4 I recommend suicide.
Then why did he put in where he was going?
I tried to tell you guys about the gameplay but FFXV-kun kept pushing me down.
>Its going to have gambits like FF12; fuck you (FFXV-kun)
Maybe SE marketers listened to him over us instead because there were so many of him.
Would of Final Fantasy will be the better game.
So, like every other FF they've put out in the past decade and a half. Color me surprised.
Black Flag and funnily enough BF4(months after release though, arguably the best "modern" FPS on the market)
Black Flag fucked up a lot.
oh god that was embarrassing to watch
>And yes, you autists, the ATB system is still turn-based.
How is turn-based when enemy slaps my shit while I'm still taking my """"""""turn"""""""""""?
Protip: All but XV are turnbased with ATB counting as turnbased.
So it's the same fucking thing.
I'm genuinely more excited for that chibi final fantasy game than FF15, what a fucking disaster.
I'm more excited for Type 0 Online
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>>always face the direction of the enemy in combat
So both Versus and XV footage shows this, what is your point?
>>never move clumsily away in a direction away from the enemy unless purposefully dodge-rolling backwards
But this never happens, the fuck?
>>aerial combat keeps you sustained in the air without falling while continuing to do combos
No it doesn't, we only saw him use like three aerial combos and they were just 3-4 hits before he came down, in XV you can actually stay sustained in the air as we've seen with airstep sword and shurikens.
>>movement across the battlefield is slower while retaining a decent speed in combat
It's the same movement speed, and with phantom sword only does it get faster because that fuck buffs you
>>all attacks have enemy knockback, making your attacks have weight to them
So just like in XV, which now has shown more weapons which all have weight to them
Why are you talking out your ass?
Yeah I'm pretty hype for XV but that demo wasn't good at all. Dude playing was trash, too.
>THE BEST FIGHTING SYSTEM WE HAVE EVER MADE
aaand starts with a qte, kek
>attacks in XV have weight to them
When I played the Platinum Demo there was absolutely no knockback caused by any of my attacks
beyond top tier
makes the game look kind of goofy in contrast.
>the most beautiful musical track plays
>Noctis just stands/walks around and gets punched in the face
on a serious note, if they took out the warping, this would objectively be the worst action game ever. The controls feel so fucking sluggish in both demos that they have to pull off some magic to make me buy it
or a PC version, and a kinda good one this time around? Please?
>alone
>level 7
>hasn't even done the VERY FIRST tutorial mission
Yeah and I'm sure you thought FF12 was GOTY when you were fighting sewer rats as Vaan too.
The problem was that the person that they had playing the demo fucking sucked at the game and didn't know what the fuck he was doing.
Anyone who's actually played Episode Duscae and the Platinum Demo knows that this game is gonna be good.
I blame it on Tabata working 20 hours a day not realising how something like Titan is awful to showcase combat on.
That gameplay was awful. Can't believe they showed that to hype their game.He's literally standing, getting hit,and occasionally dodging those telegraphed attacks.
Looked like the guy playing had no fucking idea what he was doing and wiped his entire party, so they just ran a scripted kill command to end the fight
>and a kinda good one this time around
Type 0 HD, Lightning Returns, FFIX, and FFX/X-2 HD Remaster all had pretty great ports. What do you mean this time around? They haven't done a bad Final Fantasy PC port since XIII-2.
They can't show a boss battle, especially one against a large monster.
The objective was literally "stay alive" which is boring as shit and the only target you had was an arm
I have played them and I know for a fact that the gameplay is not good.
Like, it's far worse than Kingdom Hearts, which should be the minimum level of quality they should be aiming at.
Not to mention the wonky, inconsistent graphics and bad camera.
I'll buy it and probably enjoy it at least somewhat but it's a mess of a game.
That had to have been a controller fuck up like the Uncharted 4 thing where the guy just stood still for 30 seconds.
I find it hard to believe that they'd bring someone on stage who had never even played the game before. The devs are always the ones demoing the games.
So you never played it? Shields, warp strikes all have knockback, on regular enemies too all knock back. IG is a fucking IRON giant not shit it's not going to flinch to every little attack you do which is why you hear that big metal clank noise. WHen you use shield you knock him back when you do warp strike it's a strong attack that knocks him back, then you do critical which all do.
>>I have played them and I know for a fact that the gameplay is not good.
No you havn't, if you did you would know the gameplay is good.
>Like, it's far worse than Kingdom Hearts,
No it isn't, there is more depth to combat than any KH has.
Stop fucking lying already.
guess i should have given them a chance since XIII-2 then
hows the FF9 port? I can always go for some FF9
Those guys are experts at making their game look like shit
all that is wrong with it is the framerate, controls responsiveness and the animations being too long and sluggish
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yeah okay that's the "feels bad to play" trinity right there
fucking please XV-kun you goddamn loser. Fuck off already.
>XV
>more depth than Kingdom Hearts
>I waited a decade for this garbage
Just kill me now.
>inb4 b-but you can teleport and do so many directional attack of which most are totally useless
It's literally quantity over quality combat system
>WAAAAA IT'S NOT DARK SOULS
Depends on how you feel about the UI. The UI is the same as the mobile version.
On the other hand, its the only Final Fantasy PC port to have full mouse support
Are you retarded?
Ten years everyone.
XV took to long to make. Development hell does nothing good for games. Should've canceled it a year after they showed that 2006 trailer.
>World of FF
This actually looks like a decent game unlike FF15. Apparently is 100 hours long aswell.
Only thing I don't like about it are the main characters.
It's true, weapon switching alone gives it more depth.
But they are all useful you faggot, just more proof you never played it and just want to cocksuck Nomura.
That is from the 2015 prebeta build.
>you never played it!!
Just stop it already with this dumb argument, i liked the demo but tons of the directional moves have no use compared to others
He's right though. The most depth KH ever had was KH2 in which it had revenge values and shit but that's about it.
> and just want to cocksuck Nomura.
user... Please don't start with pulling Nomura into this, especially when the same people are behind combat of KH2 and XV.
lmao
Seeing all the old FF characters really got me excited for it
>this game was doomed since first annouced 8 years ago
>8 years later, it still looks like an unfinished pile of shit
>"BEST FIGHTING SYSTEM WE HAVE EVER MADE"
>sorry but its shit