Played WoW back from WoTLK-Cata

>Played WoW back from WoTLK-Cata
>Love pvp, world pvp. Like exploring the world n shit
>Had like 120 days /played
>Quit like season 2 of cata
>Still have nostalgia about WoW and I was pumped for this movie
>go to see it on saturday, didn't look at any reviews or anything (guess I wasn't that pumped since I waited like a week)
>Movie starts, they go through the dark portal
>I have no idea what's going on because I thought dark portal is to outland
>no it's a different dark portal
>ok.jpg
>I've read a little lore so I thought I would maybe find some characters I know, Thrall or grom hellscream, Arthas or something
>maybe even illidin or war of the ancients shit
>there's like 5 differen't main orc characters that all look the same
>plot is all over the place, also it the plot sucks
>I am confused as fuck even though I usually don't have this problem with movies
>actors suck
>action scenes suck

This movie sucked dick. They showed Ironforge for about 2 seconds and the dwarves seemed cool but that's about it. The movie was boring as fuck too, seemed like fucking under budgeted B movie trash.

I agree.

So... your main complaint is there wasn't enough WoW bullshit in a movie that deals with shit three movies before WoW? I mean yeah the movie is bad at explaining itself but

>I thought I would maybe find some characters I know, Thrall or grom hellscream, Arthas or something

nigga u dumb

>three movies before WoW

three games*

Wrong, you did not play WoW from WoTLK-Cata
You will be

>>I've read a little lore so I thought I would maybe find some characters I know, Thrall or grom hellscream, Arthas or something

They actually make cameos during the movie. Thrall is Durotans child, Arthas' father shows up at the meeting of nations, young Grom Hellscream can be seen several times in the back ground.

Okay, I did though.

I played WC3 too. Didn't recognize any characters. Apparently they're onto the Warlords of Draenor plot now or something right? Which i'm pretty sure has nothing to do with any warcraft game i've ever played. Only guy I recognized was gul'dan

The portal was to Outlands you dumb cunt

You will be mandated now

That's because WC3 is also way after. The main conflict here was Orks and Humans, none of the other races that came later but were also shown in this movie. I mean wasn't it kind of a giveaway that WC3 had a legendary "Khadgar's Pipe of Insight" item and in this movie he was still a teenager?

>>Movie starts, they go through the dark portal
>>I have no idea what's going on because I thought dark portal is to outland
>>no it's a different dark portal

You are really fuckin' dumb mate. Strangely, your reasons for disliking the movie that don't relate to the setting aren't really wrong. The pacing was shit, causing them to jump all over the place with the plot. The human actors/garona were... well, I don't know much about judging actors, so either they or the directing were shit.

The very basics of the plot sort of follow WC1, well enough that you really shouldn't have been confused at all if you knew what was supposed to happen. Baffled at what they changed, maybe, but not that confused.

Overall the movie's plot is why you don't let Metzen take liberties, though.

>>I have no idea what's going on because I thought dark portal is to outland
the dark portal goes from draenor to azeroth
draenor got fucked up hard and people started calling it outland for some reason i forget why

>Baffled at what they changed, maybe, but not that confused.
>that new fucking Garona "betrayal"

I figured it was before the "Horde" and Alliance teamed up because there was really only orcs and humans. But I still don't get the outland thing. Maybe i'll have to read up on it but it looked like they were going from Dreanor to Azeroth but I don't know anything past cataclysm.

>but it looked like they were going from Dreanor to Azeroth

Well yes that's where Orcs come from.

>342205873
>Played WoW back from WoTLK-Cata
>WoTLK-Cata
you missed everything kid

>the dark portal goes from draenor to azeroth
>draenor got fucked up hard and people started calling it outland for some reason

Wow, would've been nice if they explained that in the film

it only happens later, not during the first war, which is what the film is portraying

Thrall was actually in the movie you dumb fuck

Outland is Draenor. Same place, different name. Draenor became Outland when it was fucked. So they were going from Draenor to Azeroth.

>movie sacked because you didn't understand the plot doesn't follow Wow or WC3

WEW lad

The writers of this movie need to go back to middle school English class.

not op but i am confused why draenor was called draenor. is it pure coincidence that the draenei have a similar name?

>I have no idea what's going on because I thought dark portal is to outland
>no it's a different dark portal
you idiot
draenor is outland
the orcs are on draenor
it's supposed to be the same portal, connecting azeroth and draenor
>Thrall
>Arthas
>illidin
this is a movie about the first war you idiot
thrall was the green baby, but arthas only appears in wc2 as a kid, and illidan is imprisoned right now
why would the first movie show some war of the ancients shit
are you legit retarded?
>why is this movie about warcraft 1 I'm confused
mongoloid

the Draenei found the planet, named it Draenor.
Orc's just called it "World" but adopted the name later on

I thought for sure it'd turn out Medivh brainwashed her with that arcane flower trick.
That all the orcs would forgive her for killing one guy, even a king, was really stupid.

>thrall was the green baby

sheeit nigguh. I didn't know that

>ITT: people eating the bait and getting caught

orcs are retarded

For some fucking reason they didn't call him Thrall did they?

No his human slavers give him that name

It was good, cry about it OP.

I have never played any Warcraft or WoW games. My biggest exposure to the universe is through Hearthstone. I had no trouble understanding the basic concepts of the movie - I wasn't confused by the magic or the setting or anything.

The movie just sucks because the pacing and writing is fucking trash. None of the plot points are set up with proper foreshadowing or exposition. None of the characters have moments that actually characterize them and let the audience understand their mindset and motivations, except Gul'dan who's just cartoonishly evil.

The reason only Warcraft players like this movie isn't because they can understand it better, it's just because they're excited to see references they know on the screen. It's just badly constructed fanservice.

Calling your child "slave" is rather odd, don't you think?

I guess my wording is kinda fucked, but yes. Most of Garona's nonsense was pretty fucking bad.

>Did you know I've had sex, humans? I've had sex. orcs have rough sex. How do you humans have sex? Sex is rough so it should break you, even though human females are smaller than males which implies your sex probably isn't as rough as orc sex. Did I mention I've had sex?

I kinda get that they wanted the King to have Garona be saved by the fake betryalmurder, but it was still weird. And then the fucking mosh pit for her and the King's corpse.

>people know shit about lore
thrall, son of durotan and draka, should have given it away
thrall means slave in english
it's the name the humans give him and he carries that name even later, until aggra teases him about it, so he starts using his real name go'el, that he learned in TBC from his grandmother

Appropriately, Gul'Dan was the best part of the movie.

>thrall was the green baby
>I got a copy of Lord of the Clans with a preorder receipt for WC3 in it for my birthday a long ass time ago
>I re-read my books every once and awhile
>I've probably read Lord of the Clans like 8 times over the years
>mfw it's plot has been retconed and fucked with

I'm sick of guldan
he has nothing interesting going on
bland generic evil guy
and they ruined the little bit of interesting story regarding him and nerzhul that was there

>I don't know anything past cataclysm.

That's good cause this movie deals with Warcraft 1. Not WoW. Not Warlords of Draenor. Warcraft 1.

But this entire thread is bait anyway.

>there's like 5 differen't main orc characters that all look the same

That's how I know you didn't watch the movie. I've never played a Warcraft game in my life. I've never played WoW. I've never read the lore. Nothing. And even I can now recognize Durotan, Guldan, Orgrim, Garona, Blackhand, and whatever other orcs were in the movie.

You're legit retarded.

that's blizzard for you
>doomhammer: I knew your parents
>doomhammer: I was the one who betrayed them, and was ultimately responsible for their deaths, but we got along again after... for the short time we had before your father was brutally murdered and your mother assassinated... because of me
thrall: what...

Well I feel stupid now

Is that the one where the Fel magic in the air turns the Frostwolves green over time?

Though on that note, the list of things they didn't retcon is pretty goddamn short.

I think the only good one is Garona's gary-stu baby can't exist if she isn't having an fling with Medhiv because he's now her implied father or whatever.

Of course, that'd also be assuming the Warcraft movie is relevant to WoW's plot, but whatever.

This seems so fucking baity. People who have only played recent WoW have no business even talking about Warcrafts past. You don't know what's going on because you think you know stuff about Warcraft but you know nothing.

>Wow, would've been nice if they explained that in the film
it's not Outland yet. That happens later. In the games Ner'zul blew up Draenor by opening too many portals. It hasn't happened yet.

>Forgive her

Perhaps you are the retard user.

That's the point though? Maybe not so much forgiveness as muh traditions she won our respect but it's still dumb.

>I've had sex

Good lord, hate the movie as you must, but goddamn stop assuming your neckbeard headcanon is true.

I've hardly played Warcraft, MMO or RTS, so I can't be sick of anything yet.

>doomhammer: by the way here's his tusk
>thrall: ...

He is evil
legit evil, all he does os manipulate everything around him for power.

Unlik every other warcraft villain, they are always misunderstood faggots that tried to save their people but got corrupted by something.


Gul'dan is just Evil.

This is why Sup Forums likes him.

Wow. Seriously wow. There was absolutely nothing complex or difficult to understand about this movie and yet you morons still make arguments based on your horribly incorrect assumptions. Hate the movie, just stop polluting this board with your fucking retarded thoughts.

You do realize the scene by the campfire with her, Khadgar, and Lothar was all about sex, right? Or have you not actually seen the movie?

She literally says Khadgar wants to lay with her, then goes on about how she doesn't understand that humans aren't broken by the process of mating, despite having seen both male and female humans by now.

At least he was consistent and his Fel magic was the closest thing to a fucking theme throughout this film, so yeah it was the best part. And I say that having been forced to see the German version where his dub fucking sucked.

And this has what to do with her having sex? Oh wait nothing. Derp

Are you stupid or do you not realize you're talking about two completely unrelated things?

>He is evil
>legit evil
which makes him bland and boring

It's ok if you prefer dindu nuffin villains, user.
i respect that.

You should re-watch it in english bro.
His original voice is 10/10, managed to be even better than troy baker.

In lord of the clans it's implied that the fel corruption got most of the orcs regardless of if they drank the blood or not. Rise of the horde has a bit about Durotar's skin turning green slowly too. It's the guys with the glowing red eyes that drank the blood and are lethargic as fuck now that they're not kicking ass. Thrall's the one that breaks all the bumped out orcs out of camps and basically says "HEY GUYS, THE ELEMENTS DON'T THINK WE'RE FUCKING COCKS ANYMORE, WE DON'T NEED DEMONIC BULLSHIT NO MORE" Thrall is orc Moses, not Jesus.

>It was shadow council fuckery in Ogrim's own guard that got his best friend and his family killed
>This was the event that made Ogrim snap and go after them, eventually taking control of the horde
>Shadow council aren't a thing anymore, Guldan just goes around bossing people around

I prefer heroes like Thrall
I prefer villains like VanCleef or Arthas or Ner'zhul

All films have and always will follow this formula looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

Seriously though you're a fucking idiot

plus gul'dan didn't fall into a coma
I bet doomhammer in the new continuity will just fucking challenge gul'dan and defeat him, but let him live because he tells him he needs him and his powers or something
they literally don't give a fuck about the story anymore

Why did they have orcs but no trolls, ogres, death knights?

and there were only like footmen and grunts. Where is the unit variety? seems kind of lazy

most films that are good do
unless you're doing something cool in your movie, but warcraft doesn't
warcraft is not a tarantino or david lynch movie, it doesn't have any gimmick or whatever
it tries to follow this formula but fails

But really that was their shitty retcon bullshit excuse to bring their goat men alien fetish people into WoW

I think the stupid one here might just be you.

>tfw wasted 6 bucks to see this trash

trolls and death knights are from wc2
this is wc1
in wc1 the orcs come into azeroth, they've already been fighting for decades and then they finally manage to attack stormwind
the humans have to flee to lordaeron and that's the end of wc1
in wc2 the orcs, under orgrim doomhammer, push the humans back to lordaeron and almost win, when gul'dan abandons the fight, so the humans win and imprison the orcs
they haven't even attacked stormwind in the movie, so we are not even at the end of wc1
they ally with the forest trolls in wc2, and I think that's also when gul'dan creates his death knights and ogre mages
though ogres in general were already in wc1 I think
but none of that matters because they changed the story anyway

bruv footmen vs grunts is the classic Warcraft imagery pre-WC3.

>Thrall

Fuck, i can't belive i got baited.
good job, user.

None of those were part of orc clans or the Horde at that point you pleb.

The fact that she implied she had sex previously by talking about how rough it's supposed to be and yadda yadda yadda.

It was an especially bad scene in a bad movie that I did not enjoy, but unfortunately it exists.

>Thrall is orc Moses, not Jesus.
Well, they made that clear with the end of the movie! Which makes me want to cry.

>tfw $9.75

>wrath babby

opinion discarded

>what does her talking about her having sex have to do with her having sex?
get yourself checked out user
you might be retarded

Find something that hasn't been retconned to turn it into a shitty raid encounter. The only thing connecting wc3 and WoW are names, literally everything else has been gutted or handwaved away in the name of convenience for the WoW theme park.

his orc name is Go'el
his slave name is "Thrall" which is literally "Slave"

it would be like you calling your son "faggot"
faggot.

>he is evil
>legit evil

he is caught in a power struggle. You have seen this a million times before and you will see it a million times again.

>Sup Forums like him
do they?

>She implied

Nice headcanon faggot. She never implied anything other than knowledge of orc culture. Maybe she had sex, but there's literally no way to actually know that.

>literally everything else has been gutted or handwaved away in the name of convenience for the WoW theme park

Man I just checked the Wiki and apparently Garona being half-draenei has been retconned back in 2009 already, presumably just to fit everything post vanilla WoW into the picture.

Read your post again you fucking idiot you just agreed with me.

>I just said the word sex yay I'm no longer a virgin

Are you fucking kidding me? We're finally getting representation as gamers through this movie. The least you fuckheads could do is show some fucking support.

Blizzard pls go

Garona is a rape baby. Orcs were not kind to the draenei, It is heavily implied Garona was abused.

>I played WC3 too. Didn't recognize any characters
RETARD ALERT

>facepalm
I mocked what you said, I didn't say the same thing you did
you said it had nothing to do with it
you're a moron
she was being all sexual the entire movie
>she talks about getting fucked
>she flirts with khadgar
>she flirts with lothar
>she flirts with llane
>she flirts with medivh
she knows her role as a woman

in the movie story it is implied that she is medivh's daughter

>I played WC3
>Didn't recognize at least fucking MEDIVH
u wot

Why does this thread have 79 posts? OP is either falseflagging or a moron.

No one who's played WoW for any length of time doesn't know outland is draenor or that the dark portal goes two ways or that the first and second wars happened like 30 years before WoW.

Because we discussed the movie without OP, user.

This. Has. Nothing. To. Do. With. Anything.

>Face palm

Seriously, you might the dumbest person I've ever replied to. Literally, quite fucking literally, nothing you have said has anything, quite fucking literally anything, to do with Garona having sex.

Fantasize if you want but holy shit you're a different level of stupid.

>you might the dumbest person
no I think that might you

Who should we Trust?

>Critics
>Fans?

i give this movie a solid 8.5/10.

Yeah, they changed the lore, who give a fuck, it's a movie i never expected it to be 1:1 with the game, but it turned out to be alright in the end.


The 40 minutes that were removed for the theaters though... that is something the movie needed.

>Yeah, they changed the lore, who give a fuck
>Who should we Trust?
not you then

remember that movie they made about the titanic, where the titanic didn't sink at the end? yeah who cares if they changed the story
you can't expect it to be 1:1 with the original story

>The 40 minutes that were removed for the theaters though... that is something the movie needed.
you don't even have the slightest clue what these 40 minutes were about
the film was already 2 hours long
an almost 3 hour movie would've been even worse

gr8 b8 m8

Wow that was an easy victory.

you lost when you started trolling

>Let me f5 while I ignore your post

You're free to do what you want.

>I've read a little lore so I thought I would maybe find some characters I know, Thrall or grom hellscream, Arthas or something