Admit it

Admit it.

You have fun with Bethesda games.

I can see right through you. I also bitch and moan about Todd's lies, and cringe at the half-delivered product, and the total destruction of gameplay integrity and lore. But I end up playing them for hours and mod the hell out of them on several locations later on.

I would argue that it isn't hypocrisy, since promises and expectation not delivered is a separate issue from actual amount of fun had.

You might deny you do this, but it's alright. Just know that I know you do it.

C'mon, admit it.

I've spent around 80 hours in Skyrim and about the same amount in FO3, and I honestly can't say I enjoyed any of it. Most of that is just walking from point to point and doing boring quests, hoping something better will show up, but it never does.

I'll admit it for all of them except for Fallout 4. I legitimately can't drag myself through that game.

>install mods.
>walk around and jerk off to the graphics for a while
>never play again

I don't believe simple hope kept you going for 80 hours in Skyrim.

Sure, you might have been overall disappointed by the shallowness. But there must have been instances that made it just a bit gripping. Like a night where you looked up at the sky at some scenic location, or you came across an easter egg or other little detail that made you smirk.

Then why play 80 hours? Serious fucking question here.

I will freely admit I love all Bethesda games. Started with Morrowind and I've been hooked since.

I can't fucking wait for TES6 and I don't even give a damn what anyone says, I'll love that one too.

This

Bethesda games appeal to people that like open world exploration games. You set yourself challenges and goals.

Because that's how long it takes to find out that it's bad. Walk, walk, walk, talk to NPC you don't give a shit about, get a new waypoint, walk, walk walk... It's such a fucking time sink, and I didn't even finish it.

i played a lot of morrowind as a kid. oblivion is probably bethesda's only "bad" game but i still put 300 hours into it and loved it. skyrim had some problems too but was still a good time.

Nice try Todd.

I realized it in about 3 hours.

Are you just slow?

No nothing happening around its release did that. And plus let's be honest. How many faggots on here say
>only played 15 hours
>argument disregarded...

One cannot spend 50+ hours on a game and claim they were not enjoying themselves. You may have become dulled to it due to radiant quests, but not the game itself.

no hes an autist

True, but once you complete the game multiple times, you start to get bored, which is to be expected honestly.

Never played one of their games since Morrowind. I just kept hearing bad things about them. I'm considering getting Skyrim at some point though. Maybe during the summer sale.

some people like to play Bethesda games, other people like to download nude mods and jerk off. the latter are typically the people who say that Bethesda games are shit.

I'm having fun with the stand-alone addons. Can't fucking wait for Enderal, only two more weeks until release.

FNV pissed me off more than twice when i went to launch the game but forgot the 64 bit executable.
good thing the community is insanely nice. i had people trouble shooting for me only to realize it was because i wasn't using the 4gb launcher. very embarrassing.

>slow
Obviously since he thought he didnt need a horse

how much value can one get for playing a vidya?
i think if you can put 50-100 hours into a game for 50-70 bucks, its worth it, or am i wrong?

A lying autist

Something Sup Forums seriously needs to realize is that a game being "fun" and being "good" are two very different things.

You can have fun with a bad game, and you can dislike a good game.

People realized this with movies ages ago so I'm not sure why its taking so long for videogames to catch up.

Me too, even Skyrim Romance. I've been looking for more quests and stuff to do, but a lot of them never get finished or are abandoned.

I bought Fallout 4 about a month ago and I've played about a combined hour in it. It's legitimately a 0/10 game and I'll never buy a Bethesda game again.

I wish with all these shit games I've played and got trophies in could be deleted. Id probably have fun trying to get trophies if it was worthwhile. When they're just part of a sea of shit games with 5% then 100% isn't rewarding.

I figured that out after the first quest. Good thing I borrowed it, but I have been wanting to try it out again. I need a good time waster.

What mods let me play as a qt spider girl or moth girl?

the spider girl mod of course...

Once and forever let us set the record straight unlike OP is forever a faggot

Bethesda games only playable with mods to fix the fucked up bugs they let get released and is only fun when you mod them from hell to back. Truth be told they should get out of the game making business and look at the creators of RPG Maker is doing.

But I've never found that one, user. Are you merely teasing me?

I've got 46 hours in Skyrim, and 51 hours in Fallout 4.

There were times I enjoyed Skyrim, mainly in the sword and board paladin character I just fucked around on, but one day I just didn't want to start the game up and never touched it again.

Pretty much the same thing with FO4, I sort of enjoyed it at times mostly just fucking around, waiting for the game to start getting better. Then one day I just didn't launch it again and haven't touched it since.

Of course, because they are extremely good games. That's why they are so god damn popular, which is also the reason why Sup Forums pretends to hate them.

It's cool to say Morrowind is the best game ever, because not many people have played it, which shows your refined taste in video games. It's not cool at all to like something that basically everyone else likes.

That being said, I feel that overall BGS games get better and better and their success relfects that.

>That being said, I feel that overall BGS games get better and better and their success relfects that.

I disagree. The games have been casualized to he'll and back compared to what they once were.

For me these games are about immersion and exploration and these aspects always are a huge step forward in the newer games.

If your idea of those games is to have billions of stats and read walls of texts while playing and looking like shit, then go back to morrowind. Also deal with the franchise changing, nobody at bethesda owes you anything.

I usually have fun with a first playthrough but cannot go back, ever.

Loved every minute. Can't wait for special edition.

I'm not saying that there isn't an improvement in some aspects. The problem is that they didn't keep the old stuff at the same time.

Is it going to be full price?

this
except i play through it 3 times at most, dropping it earlier and earlier each time

same for me except with DS3.

With Oblivion? Definitely and I still do.

With Skyrim? No. I got bored really quickly after doing the civil war. I don't know what it is but something wasn't there that wanted to make me go back.

Post Bethesda game characters.

Bethesda is living proof that quantity over quality can somehow work. Skyrim as an RPG is extremely shallow but the world is so massive that it's genuinely fun to go and fuck around.

In a critical stand point the game has many flaws going against it but sometimes fucking around in a large map and stealing shit is good enough.

It's the Just Cause effect.

Tried Morrowind and Skyrim, played both for about ~2 hours each, uninstalled them after that because of how fucking boring and visually unappealing they were.

Has Todd or anyone else from Beth ever talked about the gradual removal of RPG elements and other features in general and their rationale for doing it?
I feel like if anyone asked they'd just give an evasive PR non-answer but it's something I'd be interested to hear their reasoning for, if it's more than just "it's easier to sell it to casuals this way".

Wouldn't even want the question to be presented in a negative way like an accusation or anything, just genuinely curious.

>if it's more than just "it's easier to sell it to casuals this way".
That's literally the only reason friendo, as well as making it more convenient to sell in consoles.

This. I just like adventuring in a comfy open world, with plenty to do. Bethesda games have boring gameplay and bad writing, and I would never claim they were good, but the scale alone and relatively high level of detail of their worlds compared to, say, Ubisoft or GTA, keeps me coming back. The only exception being Fallout 4; so much space is taken up by settlements, which I really dislike, there are only a handful of actual cities, and the general atmosphere is just so bland.

The only time I had fun in a Bethesda game was with Nehrim which is a total conversion mod so no, technically I don't really have fun with Bethesda games.

You got me, I am having fun

of course i do skyrim and oblivion/nehrim are still the best open world rpgs. And for combat in a open world dragons dogma and later ff15.
Witcher is for quests and.. yeah quests.

>You have fun with Bethesda games. (With mods)
I just made your post 100% better and more true.

what the fuck op? that looks like ass.

I used to enjoy them. Used to.
I enjoyed all of the big titles, Morrowind, Fallout 3, Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout NV but after a while it all starts turning stale. Very very stale. When it was fresh it was a great experience and ones I'll remember fondly but by now all I see are the flaws, bugs, shoddy half assed work and lackluster stories.

Whatever it was that gripped me before, doesn't now. And I blame them.

fuck off shill

Nobody is denying this obviously.

Mods are the only reason I still bother with FO4

I just want a sims + open world game. Vanilla settlement building suck ass compare to what we got now.

>projecting
>I DO IT, THEREFORE EVERYONE DOES IT
nah, kill yourself

I think you could make a graph out of it.
You start of excited, exploring all the things and experiencing everything for the first time.
Then you experience everything for the fifth time, and you get bored.
Then you mod it, have fun for a while, and then go back to being bored.
Sometime later you revisit it, thinking of the fun times you had (the first time you played), and then you quickly close that piece of shit.
That's every single bethesda game.

Not really. Skyrim was my first TES game and when I got it, I thought it was amazing. It quickly began to lose luster though, mostly when I reached Whiterun and discovered one of the biggest cities was a tiny shithole.

Whatever magic was left vanished when I discovered that right ouside Whiterun, along a road going up some mountain, there is a spot where random events are scripted to happen. I had to travel along the same spot a handful of times for some reason, got to see like 3 different little events always on the exact same spot. I always heard that TES games were full of crazy random events so seeing how lazy that shit was killed a lot of the enjoyment for me.

I still put like fifty hours into that shit because I thought that maybe if I kept playing it would get better, since people were always so crazy for the franchise. It didn't. In fact the long loads, shitty combat and more importantly the awful bugs at Markarth were the final nail in the coffin.

even the modders are getting pissed off since they keep taking their ideas and pushing them through their own add-on DLC and the mass cry-baby army of console kiddies begging for mods. The mod community has all but given up.

Skyrim is the BBT of video games, although that's sort of an insult to the BBT.

I know that feel and being tired of the same "open world" shit with no thought put into it is big part of why the entire modern AAA industry is shit
I did only play Morrowind for the first time after Skyrim bored me to tears and loved it though

I will admit they are fun for a while. They are not fun enough to make me want to do half of the quests or fun enough to keep me playing the game. After playing the game for 20 hours or so you soon realize that you have literally seen all the game has to offer. They reuse the same assets, voice actors and fetch quests all throughout the game. Eventually everything is what you saw before and every person says the same things over and over. Not to mention all the game breaking bugs and grotesque animations caused by the engine.

>You have fun with Bethesda games.

Was true for me until Skyrim but not Fallout 4. The voiced MC thing is a total deal breaker for me

Big Black Tyrone?

Bethesda's games are experiences that are hard to find somewhere else, that's why even with all the bad things in Skyrim I loved it

Fallout 4 can go fuck itself though

are there any addons that make Fallout 4 a good game yet?

Sperg and Erso in Skyrim at least salvaged what was left of the game into an RPG

They're fun and dumb open world action games.

It's insulting to the genre to actually call them RPGs though.

I don't understand Bethesda
Sure, the empty boring open world draws in loads of casuals and I'm fine with that. But why can't they have actual great quests on top of that? It worked for Witcher 3

Em, how about NO?
The only reason most people played and still play it is because of the waifu/jerkoff mods.

For example skyrim, there was a whole tread of faggots admitting they didnt even get far in game after spending 100+ hours ingame because they were busy fapping.

Without community mods Bethesda's are just bad. Shitty stories and shitty NPCs.

this is so accurate it almost pissed me off for some reason.

I never denied it Todd, I like your games besides their many faults.

I had more fun with skyrim than witcher 3 or mgsv

did you suffer brain damage in the interim?

Honestly Oblivion, Skyrim and Fallout 3/NV are worth it if you liked Morrowind. If you didn't like Morrowind then that's understandable.

sh-shut up

>Oblivion
eeeeh I guess it's alright, babies will defend it like it's the best game ever though
>Skyrim
nope, bothing like Morrowind at all
>Fallout 3
hah, good one
>NV
fair enough

It was comical how you could time dragon attacks. If you spent long enough wandering around/crawling dungeon then you'd know that one would swoop down as soon as you got back to the overworld.

I have no idea how anyone could do that. Even the worst parts of those games are better than anything in Skyrim.

It's fine when I don't think about the quality of the acting, the writing, or the graphical work.

>you lived long enough to see children who grew up with Oblivion defend its setting, mechanics, and quests

Sure I have fun, but not for very long without heavy modding.
I give the same criticism to any game that becomes boring at a similar speed, I don't see the point you're trying to make.

That's been going on for like 5 years at the very least
Can't fucking wait for everyone to go all nostalgia about Skyrim

You spent 80 hours of your free time doing something you didn't enjoy? Are you retarded?

Yeah, you're right.
I have fun with OLD bethesda games.

Here's my summary of the time I played skyrim

>Fell into the initial hype, played it at a friend's house
>Opened the skill menu and got worried
>Leveled up and wondered if I could upgrade anything else besides health, magic, or stamina
>Got increasingly worried when I got my first slow mo kill cam thing
>Got confused as to why elder scrolls has fucking skill trees for individual skills instead of acquiring smaller perks when you level up said skills normally, and wondering why there's useless shit like getting keys for locks you've broken into
>Try to disregard it, walk away with a sour taste in my mouth
>A couple weeks and tons of threads about why skyrim is shit on Sup Forums later, I saw morrowind on sale on steam
>Played Morrowind on and off for a year or two
>Got skyrim for free at some point so I decided to play through it, and ignore the main quest entirely
>Enjoyed exploring the map and a couple of interesting quests here and there like the lighthouse one but hated the lack of enemy variety and the new enchanting system

After seeing a mod of a horse dicked futa girl, I decided to just stick with vanilla.

All I know is that games like Skyrim and Fallout, with all the mods available for them right now, are the ultimate games for roleplaying.
You wanna play as a bandit with your own gang and hideout? You can. You wanna play a doctor, going around the world saving lives? You can. You wanna play as a slave dealer? You can.
And if there isnt a mod yet for what you want, you can always make it yourself.

Faggos who play the games for over 50hours and say they didnt like it are trying too hard to fit in, or are way too retarded to mod the game.

>If you don't like it then play a completely different game!

Nobody in there right mind would defend Oblivion's level scaling.
But the quests were interesting and the factions played out in pretty interesting ways, even though you could be in all of them simultaneously which ruined the experience.

Whenever I go replay it I cap myself at level 20 and only stick with one or two factions. As much as I played oblivion and "grew up with it" I went ahead and played the other games in the series too.

I like morrowind, oblivion, and skyrim but for different reasons and actually enjoy them despite the flaws in each

The only thing I truly love about Skyrim is the theme song. The language they made up and the lyrics they wrote for it, the choir that sang it, the music, it's fuckin fantastic.
Unfortunately pretty much everything else is pretty sub-par. I guess the lore itself is pretty interesting but the way they portray the world in game leaves a lot to be desired.

...

Agreed, that fucking trailer is still hype as hell
Too bad the game is boring and not an RPG

>Bethesda games have boring gameplay and bad writing, and I would never claim they were good

This is what a dude who liked Skyrim is forced to write before praising it on this hipster board

I liked Skyrim before I got into Morrowind and learned what a good TES felt like.

And I liked Fallout 3 until I played New Vegas and learned how bad Bethesda is at making their own games.

bacon, bacon, tomato?

that's a face of nightmares

I am so lazy about installing mods, because I usually get bored faster in less time it took to build up a list and install them correctly without conflicts, that I would rather wait for the update to the special edition

I wish something like the FTB launcher for minecraft existed for Skyrim.
Would be nice to have premade collections of mods that work together.