How did they fuck up Fallout 4 series so bad. They literally had gold mine in their hands and they fucked it up

How did they fuck up Fallout 4 series so bad. They literally had gold mine in their hands and they fucked it up.

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>Got rid of attributes
>No more skill points
>Special is fucking worthless
>Hardly any weapons that looked like crap
>Shit story line
>No actual free will
>Shit DLC that does what modders could have done if the GECK came out in time
>Shitty dialog system of yes, no, sarcastic yes, more information.
>No fucking RPG elements what so god damn ever.

But hey the power armor was good ill give them that

Bethesda has been shit for quite some time now. Everything they touch turns to shit. Even fallout 3 was shit but it was still one of the last beth games that were still okay.

I miss skill points and skill checks mostly. That and quest branches. Everything was so fucking linear.

It doesn't matter since they make insane profit anyways.
They'll just go on like before thinking it's their genius descisions that sell those games and not the aggressive marketing that makes retardes think they need to buy the game to be hip.

As a sidenote though, we can't be sure how much of the fuck-ups are actually Bethesda's fault and not Zenimax's.

I've been playing the DLC today and another complaint I have is just the lack of detail and low effort. You know the game is glitchy, it runs like shit, and stuff like the settlement I made, that has TONS of defenses, and full happiness not recognizing me as the leader and boss man annoys me.

They just come ask me like any other quest giver to go kill nearby raiders because they have been putting the dick down their throats and taking shit. And that they can't do anything. I'VE GOT TURRETS LINED UP AROUND THE PERIMETER OF ALL KINDS NOTHING CAN GET THROUGH.

I have not been attacked by raiders ONCE. They lied about that too.

I mourn the death of Fallout's writing more than I do the death of Fallout's isometric CRPG gameplay, to be quite honest with you desu. I'm all about SRPGs, but for some reason games like Fallout or Baldur's Gate just bored me to tears.

Fallout 4 was better than Fallout 3 and just shy of Vanilla Vegas

WHY IS BOSTON FULL OF ORCS

>just shy of Vanilla Vegas

is this retard for real?

Fallout 4 is not an RPG.

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the writing died after fallout 1 tho

>1+ hour

I like all 3 of the 3D games. Git fukt

because bethesda were too blinded by "LOL SO WACKY RETRO FUTURISTIC MAD MAX"
and forgot to actually make a meaningful world space with characters that actually have semi-human reactions.

everyone in bethesda games is soo eager to stroke off the player for the smallest fucking thing

but if you go and play FO1 and FO2 people dont bend over backwards to make you feel like a super special snowflake for doing something

not to mention the absolute lack of world building, like in fallout 1 & 2 you see a progression of communites building them selves up with farming and trade

but in fallout 3&4 its like there is no communites except maybe megaton or diamond city that have any actual history or reason for being

>How did they fuck up Fallout 4 series so bad.

YOU JUST DON'T GET IT

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

The Glowing Sea should have been a literal sea of Glowing Ones and feral ghouls.

>there will never be a good atmospheric fps stylized fallout game
God that old concept looks amazing, closet thing we had was Dead Money, I'm not sure about Far Harbor cause I haven't bought it yet

Vegas vanilla had a lot of problems that really hurt it for me
a good story isn't the only aspect of a game

they are misguided

>Good story

>Hurrr...who will win 'New Vegas?'

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Bethesda don't have to try.

They have this ability to automatically fuck up.

DUDE

NUKES

LMAO

All this plus the decade old engine bugs that they refuse to fix (items moving when you pick one up, npcs getting stuck on geometry, etc).

I enjoyed it
the Story was pretty wonky as well in Fallout 2 and outright awful in Fallout 3

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I never noticed it before but now I'm seeing a huge similarity with this art to the 1993 DOOM boxart.

ashes, GO HOOOOOOME
Erin misses YOUuuuuuuu :;;(

Probably by releasing Minecraft DLC that costs half the price of any other Fallout game

saw this the other day

>FO1 was almost perfect and groundbreaking
>FO2 was 9gag tier memeshit which completely destroyed anything that made the first one good
>FO3 picks up where 1 left off and brings it to first person, while keeping everything that made the first one great
>NV again shits all over the previous games by emulating 2 and failing to live up to 1 and 3
>FO4 saves the franchise again by focusing on the strengths and expanding the ideas and mechanics much further

Your opinion is objectively shit.

Ah yes
because Classic Fallout never had any jokey bits

maybe Fallout 1 was serious but Fallout 2 definitely was not

I put over a hundred hours into new vegas and all its expansions, about a hundred into 3 and its expansions, i finished the main story in 4 after about 40 after doing the few interesting side quests i could find, and ignoring huge chunks of "content" like the base building and ALL of the radiant quests. I never want to touch that game again. The DLC looks terrible and theres no build variety. In the end I just console comnanded myself a bunch of shit and fucked about for 30 minutes but even that wasnt fun. Worst AAA open world game in years.

>the Borderlands 2 of Fallout

i love how Bethesda refuses to acknowledge New Vegas or anything related to the original games.

They think energy weapons are made out of trash you find in dumpsters and yet believe the Institute is this highly intelligent faction with all this advanced technology.

They and I mean EVERYBODY easily had access to this type of technology. This is considered Pre-War.

>they HAD a goldmine in their hands
>make more money than ever
shit kids on Sup Forums say

(you)

those are special encounters

Oh wow! Its africa! Look everybody!

older fallout had stories and jokes
in newer fallout the story is the joke

that's the difference

i thought it was pretty cool

Creative goldmine, not a financial one.

>small random encounters that are an obvious reference to something that doesnt affect the rest of the game
vs
>and entire aesthetic of "LOL NUKES AND 50's LOOKING CARS IN A MAD MAX WORLD XD"

i rather a few small jokes from time to time than an entire game built around the prewar aesthetic

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worst of all is that all the pre-war energy weapons were military equipment and should bloody look like military equipment
FO3 plasma pistol/rifle doesn't look like something you'd send to war, it looks like a bad prop that falls apart the minute you look at it funny

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the truth hurts, doesn't it?

Happened sometimes when you were moving with the brush gun too.

>Beth has prewar segment in FO4
>War, war never changes
>Literally the goddamn 50s and not a single shred of the actual collapse of society that was happening just before the Great War
>War, war never changes
>Pre-war vertibirds
>War, war never changes
>Protag and family literally stare at a full scale nuke going off without being instantly blinded, vaporized, or lethally irradiated
>War, war never changes

>YEP LOOKS LIKE FALLOUT TO ME! SHIP IT!
who approved this?

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I like how the survivalist's logs from honest hearts made for a better representation of nuclear warfare than Beth managed in 4 with full on visual action

quests had jokey bits too
like getting a job as a "fluffer" becoming a porn star, NotJackie Chan and NotBruce Lee, Grampy bone and the tribals who became tribals after a few decades outside the vault, the Navaro base, talking deathclaws, the guys who dressed up as scorpions to steal cattle, lots more I'm not mentioning.

humour is nothing new in Fallout and FO4 isn't any more jokey than the other games really.

Probably the same way they fucked up Fallout 3.

They cucked it. They removed almost everything that made Fallout an RPG, and what little remained they made so shallow even the most retarded casual could become a god in 10 hours of playtime. The interesting world of Fallout was reduced to that of a Hollywood movie, and all choices were reduced to "Yes". Oh and your stuck being a goodey two shoes, no more evil characters to roleplay as, you can only be an angel. Fuck Bethesda/Todd and their lies.

honestly I'm still assuming bethesda wanted to make a post-apocalyptic rpg and just bought the fallout name for publicity's sake
literally every single thing about FO3 feels like it takes place barely 20 or so years after the bombs fell, not 200

What exactly are you trying to get at here?

I don't think its a case of refusing, the engine is just so dated and shit that you can't fix those bugs

Still one of the best intros to a video game I have ever seen.

Bethesda likes to focus on edgy pre-war HUMAN NATURE shit in their fallouts

and big monsters vs. big robots with big guns so they can impress all the review outlet$

and getting rid of ron perlman what the fuck?

Bethesda were too fucking lazy to make memorable locations and towns, so in true Beth tradition they said, "Fuck it, the player can do it for us" so we got ~3 towns in the game, only 2 of which are half decent and a bunch of shitty factories.

>its a Sup Forums talks out of their ass episode

>rpg codex shitposters who literally do nothing all day but shitpost bethesda
>literally every day this is all they do

guys we have to nuke boston in order to save it

even though boston only ever received a single nuke in the past and was utterly fucked for over 200 years because reasons

>Shit DLC that does what modders could have done if the GECK came out in time
Modders basically did the DLCs before the GECK was even out

he is the announcer on TV at the start

Dear noobs. You all need to learn to never buy Bethesda games when they first come out. Wait for the "Legendary" or "GOTY" versions.

If you fall for the hype, you're going to get burned.

>was utterly fucked for over 200 years because reasons
because mongoloids won't stop fighting

things must have settled down at least 50 years after the bombs since that's when cities started setting themselves up and the minutemen were almost like a proper army for a little while

if they actually made fallout 4 it's own game with less ties to the fallout universe i bet people would bitch less
but they marketed under it anyways, and took a huge risk adding the voiced protag. Oh well, we always have 5 to look foward to

Look at the Mediterranean Sea

>one weapon made post war by brotherhood that can only be found in one place in the entirety of fallout 1 & 2
vs
>a weapon that can be found nearly every fucking where and was supposedly made prewar.

hmm something dont add up here m8

Everyone always shits on FO3 story and I don't know why.

Is it just because there aren't really factions to side with?

Because having people fight over a way to make clean water in the wasteland is way more interesting than having groups fight over real estate.

Well, the shape is there, it's just the wrong color.

No, we don't. Unless the planets align perfectly, and the miracle that would be Bethesda asking Oblivion to make another Fallout game, the franchise is fucked. 4 is what the future of Fallout is gonna be, watered down, shitty normie-tier crap.

Canada

I'm about 60 hours into 4 and I haven't even been to Diamond City yet.

yeh just look at all the WACKY shit on this pistol

I was just pissed at the forced ending unless you have DLC. For me is that was the only memorable part of the quest, and I mean that's the only part I can remember. Shit was bland yo.

it is supposed to be about human nature.

that hack Emil Pagliarulo can't write for shit.

no way this could pass for military equipment

yes this looks ready for battle
because the whole wasteland is just so decrepit and destroyed, the towns have nothing in them besides the main quest really
and quests connect with nothing plus the characters are so dead.

the crazy weapons are much better than the realistic ones

given that thing was designed to be used by power armored troops as a heavy weapon equivalent to say a portable missile launcher it looks pretty alright
remember in FO1 and 2 plasma rifles were a god damn big deal

That's when todd used the fill tool on the ocean and he didn't bother to fix the mediterranean

I think you mean obsidian

The ending is absolutely fucking beyond retarded and you have to pay money to unfuck the writing. This is objectively true.

Not to mention the entire main quest is James' quest and journey, not yours. You are essentially a spectator to his story instead of having your own.

Not to mention the fucking Potomac shouldn't even be radioactive in the first place.

Not to mention the only people that have water troubles are the bums outside Rivet City and Megaton who possess a metaphysical thirst that cannot be quenched with actual water. Everyone else is fine.

And if you dare give said bums too much water then the BAD GUYS and their infinite clone army that possess infinite resources in a supposed worthless wasteland will hunt you down forever because they are bad because bad guys

Sudan isn't split

Canada was annexed, but it's still technically a separate entity.

JINGLE JANGLE

And pretty fucking difficult to use if you fuggered up your build.

My tin foil hat theory is that the GECK was done when it was originally going to be launched, but papa bethesda found out that modders were already doing their robot mod, and they said fuck it! Launch DLC NOW!

Ie robot shit DLC, crappy contraption DLC, and the shit that is the far harbor DLC.

So far the only DLC that looks decent is the vault building because again, what mods will do for it.

as long as you had power armor on they weren't to difficult to use
using one just regularly did require a dedicated build though

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>James' quest and journey, not yours

Only if you just blindly chase him around. I basically told him to fuck off and did my own thing for as much of the game as possible.

When I heard of the institute in FO3 I thought there would be so many crazy inventions and stuff, but when you go into FO4 there's only robot people. Good jorb, bethesda

>No more H&K CAWS
>No more Pancor Jackhammer
>No more FN-FAL
>No more P90
>No more AK patterns

Why does Beth hate "modern" weaponry in Fallout?

At least FO3 had AKs and other similar rifles. FO4 rewinds the goddamn clock even harder and eliminates them and makes the "assault rifle" a fucking WW1 machine gun.

The institute are pretty shit already