Why is it that Team Fortress 2 and Overwatch have to "compete" here on Sup Forums as well as some other parts of the...

Why is it that Team Fortress 2 and Overwatch have to "compete" here on Sup Forums as well as some other parts of the internet. I mean, yes, they're both class based shooters but is there a reason each can't be respected and enjoyed in their own regard? I played and enjoyed both fully and never once discredited tf2 or overwatch because they share the same sub-genre.

People have their stupid opinions and argue all the time. It's human nature. It would be really boring place if they don't.

tf2 is 9 years old, i'm sorry you didn't experience the tf2 threads while they were still good (2007-2010), please relocate to /vg/

shut up retard, there's nothing to debate. Overwatch is a shallow piece of shit and TF2 is one of the best based multiplayer games out there, certainly the one with the most finesse.

That's business, pussy.

I have 1000 invested in tf2 with keys and items and I'm not going to allow some OW cucks take that away from me.

>they share the same sub-genre.
>overwatch is a moba shooter
>tf2 is a team shooter
You can compare Stillborn to Overwatch.

>Somebody who spent shit ton on virtual hats

>TF2 rolling out their competitive update soon
>Just a coincidence it's around the same time as Overwatch

As far as I am concerned I am perfectly happy playing both, I just happen to enjoy a few things about TF2 more, and i'm not really a fan of ultimates in a team based shooter.

atleast i'm not paying $160 for loot boxes for a game i'll get bored of in a month bro, how's that blizzcock feel blizzcuck?

What's funny is that Sup Forums used to shit on TF2 back in the days, but no one seems to remember that. And now that a direct competitor has emerged, TF2 is suddenly the best thing in the world.

Sasuga Sup Forums

Who cares about tf2. Game was dead long even before Overwatch marketing campaign began. Just let it die. 9 fucking years holy shit.

Feels like people who spend money on either are drooling retards with no patience considering you can easily get any cosmetic you want with patience in both games.

>Game was dead
>Just let it die

hurrr

>Why is it that Team Fortress 2 and Overwatch have to "compete" here on Sup Forums as well as some other parts of the internet.
You're right it's not a competition.
Tf2 >overwatch

>Sup Forums used to shit on TF2 back in the days

you mean before launch right? everybody was shitting on it back then when they revealed the new art direction

>Why is it that Team Fortress 2 and Overwatch have to "compete" here on Sup Forums as well as some other parts of the internet.
Because Battleborn never showed up for the fight

>having ulties makes it a completely different genre

It doesn't.

I like both and enjoy both. I just know better than bothering to discuss either on here or at all.

6k hours of TF2 and 105 of Overwatch

it does fight me :^).

If some game has fat dude with hook, it's 100% moba.

If some dude can heal others it's 100% theme hospital

>one side is getting destroyed
>c-can't we all be friends guys???
every time
I'm sorry OP, but the succes of one game will affect other games in the same genre. It's a competition wheter you like it or not
but don't feel too bad, tf2 had a good run

At least this time it's not food analogy.

Because tf2 needs to die already. Fuck valve

first Blizzard fuck Nu-Blizzard.

ikr, i cant fathom spending money on random drop cosmetics

Easy. Retards know their game is shit, so they look for a game that is even shittier so they can go "Haha look at those guys, at least we aren't that shitty"

The irony is that they're pretty equally shit, so neither side can really win.

Are they really the same genre though?

One can argue what Blizzard did was get a class and split that class into niche roles and add abilities onto it. However, it doesn't feel to be a class based game like TF2, it feels more like a first person ASSFAGGOTS with a different objective other than destroy the enemy base where each character has an almost niche role they can fit into or a general role as well.

Why is it that Dota 2 and LoL have to "compete" here on Sup Forums as well as some other parts of the internet. I mean, yes, they're both MOBAs but is there a reason each can't be respected and enjoyed in their own regard? I played and enjoyed both fully and never once discredited Dota 2 or LoL because they share the same sub-genre.

It's shitposting as always, it is Sup Forums after all. Both are fun honestly.

Vanilla TF2 > Overwatch > TF2

TF3 fucking when?

Some of it has got to do with the way LoL was marketed (Taking down the official DOTA site to make it an ad for LoL before DOTA 2 was made because one of the LoL creators was an admin for the site.) and Riot showing numerous times they do not give a shit recently.

There's no competition to be had because TF2 died ages ago.

>A dead horse cant be beat
durrr

I think it kinda does user
It makes the game pressure based in terms of the fact that leaving an opponent alive makes him more dangerous over time, where in TF2 the only danger is them running out of ammo or setting up a sentry. The closest thing TF2 has is jarate and sandwhiches

I was using analogy to show why OP was wrong

I am not a smart user

You haven't even played overwatch you fucking pleb. Ultimates last through death.

And do I even have to mention that TF2 has ultimates like ubercharge as well?

How is uber/kritz not like ultinate abilities?

I'd say overwatch IS like tf2,instead of random crits there is ultimate abilities

Overwatch abilities are just like the different weapons in TF2.

Uber/Kritz is an ultimate-level ability, Spy disguise and Stealth would just be a Shift/E ability in OW. Melees are innate, instead of a specific weapon, and the like.

Beside the Ultimate Abilities, Overwatch honestly feels, to me at least, what a Team Fortress 3 would be. Characters designed for certain roles, with their weird off-builds becoming a new character (Demo vs SwordDemo, etc)

I love how overcucks get triggered if you call their game moba.

...

>"""""""""""almost"""""""""""

Sheesh, then I guess every things just a moba isn't it?

You press a key to do 1 thing and another do something else.

Console wars, Dota/HoN/LoL, Witcher/Skyrim, it's always the same shit, as long as the games are even slightly similar and in the same market niche people WILL argue about which one is best for better percieved e-reputation
people will argue about apples and oranges
there's no escaping

There is no competition, Overwatch is the COD of the Team Shooters.

but even CoD requires more skill than Overwatch.

No the point is that neither overwatch or TF2 is a moba you skunk.

No it's not. Cod is just point and click. On consoles it becomes ultimate casual fest and you don't even need to point anymore with auto aim.

>Cod is just point and click.
And Overwatch is different? Yea forget press Q for epic team wipe.

They don't. THey're not even the same type of game. The only people who keep saying this are shitposters who never played them.

I look forward to competitive mode when idiots like you will be proven wrong.

>competitive mode will be different than quick play
lmao

You can only play one game at a time.

Salty fanboy who cant cope with a game dying slowly.
Also youre just mad you spend lots of dosh on hats.

But i give you this much, tf2 is far superior when it comes to competetive games.

who spends money on lootboxes? you get a free one every level.
the fuck are you on about?

Current TF2 does not compete with Overwatch at all until Overwatch adds a bunch of different items that do a bunch of different shit and fucks up the core mechanics.

I don't think I could do a comparison between vanilla TF2 and Overwatch without being heavily bias with nostalgia.
They're both great games so who fucking cares anyway

Still much harder to hit shit overall. CoD has free kills shit for killstreaks too.

>They're both great games so who fucking cares anyway
Cause faggots are from their shitty console generation of xbow and sonny
They literally can't comprehend more than one thing can exist

The reason why TF2 fans hate Overwatch is because Overwatch "stole" players from TF2...never mind that those players already got their fun out of TF2 and needed something fresh.

>TF2 fans
What is this? 2010?

Someone's gotta enter those conga servers user