All shilling aside, would it be worth checking this out as someone who quit during WotLK?

All shilling aside, would it be worth checking this out as someone who quit during WotLK?

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nah dont. memes aside the game is legit trash and nothing like it was

Judging from the beta its literally WoD 2.0, meaning you should stay far away.

It's worth a look. If you have fun with leveling you will like the Cata, MoP and WoD zones.

Legion looks pretty good but it depends what you are looking for.
>Judging from the beta its literally WoD 2.0, meaning you should stay far away.
Legion will have more content than WoD has now.

PvP isn't fucking awful right now in the PTR
of course it might change once people play with these abilities at level 110 instead of 100.

They confirmed 3 Raid Tiers. They confirmed they will replacing the island they just cut with another island.

That is more than enough for me to sub but I am not Sup Forums

>Complains about PvP at 100
>When its balanced for 110

Dank af

notice I said it "isn't fucking awful"
I love it right now
minus barrage being broken

PvP at 110 is fucked as well though. Melee have way too much uptime on ranged and hit like fucking trucks

Im telling you as a multiglad, its going to be awful.

Considering they haven't even done the first balance pass yet on Beta or PTR for 110 Numbers I would say you are kinda wrong.

This is coming from a MultiGlad Enhance Shaman who knows how Blizzard uses the hammer of nerfs. I am gonna get nerfed into the ground by Legion launch.

Nah, turbo is gonna run amok again. I bet the only thing that happens is the reflective totem nerfed because of 1500 heroes being incapable of totem stomping.

And it still doesnt address the problem of melee vs casters. Unless melee damage is nerfed ridiculously hard, to the point where I just let them sit on me, casters wont be playable. And if its nerfed that much Im going warlock and sitting in my free cast circle

why nerf when you can buff instead?

Because everybody dying in 2 hits is even less fun than ranged dying in 2 hits.

I don't see any people clearing mythic hfc unless they buff several classes at 100/launch or nerf hfc heavily

I'm a weak piece of shit so I'll probably end up playing it when it launches for the first month.

What's better, everyone dying quickly or every 1v1 lasting 2 minutes if you perfectly chain your CC and CDs?

Playing in beta for this time might have killed the hype a bit for me, mostly because of making wrong spec decision on my class and most class order hall quests not working and so forth
Along with getting DC'ed every 15 minute or so

objectively false, wotlk had best PvP

Dont fucking do it
WoW had its peak, they cant fix it at this point anymore

youtube.com/watch?v=OA49d2SsH88

Well it's nice to see that Blizzard are consistent with their absolutely disgusting writing and shit storytelling.

Voice acting seems to have gotten considerably worse too.

>they cant fix it at this point anymore

Now, now. I love to unabashedly hate things as much as the rest of you, but this is objectively wrong and you know it.

Any WWs on PTR tell me if the spec is boring or not? I get the whole DH stole our kit meme but is it still as fast as WoD? They can't have slowed the spec down even more. They can't have.

But they cant

they opened pandoras box back in Wrath/Cata and cant go back because casuals will cry way way way too hard

>that naaru voice
>changing all those voice actors
I guess I wouldn't wanna voice something I did 13 years ago for a small amount of time either.

I took Ascension/Dragon Kick and it felt decently fast.

palm, kick, palm, rsk, palm, fists, palm, dragon, palm, kick, etc.

not really waiting on globals often

Did they finally fixed Storm, Earth and Fire?

This ability was clunky as hell.

they ruined it

why are the talking animations slowed down? Why does it look so retarded? Fucking tales of the past was done with more professionalism and it was just a hobby for those fuckers and happened like 10 years ago

That was one of WW's coolest abilities, now it's just another generic cooldown.

Are people still playing this streamlined garbage?

>TFW my boyfriend is an edgelord who's gonna roll DH for legion

should I just break up with him now?

Yeah, hook up with me.

yes also post boipussy

The only bad expansion in wow was WOD

You can actually ask for month of free time and you'll get it (including WoD)
That's how desperate they are for subs
And to answer your question
>is it worth checking out
No,I got a 7 days free couple months ago,I stopped playing after 30 mins
Just doesn't feel the same anymore
I hope this helped

Wrath, Cata and Mists were all bad expansions

Honestly I hated Draenor because outside of raiding there was fucking nothing to do and reputations were fucking shit and consisted of almost exclusively grinding out mobs for hours on end for tiny returns.

I'd even be fine with MoP daily quests at this point.

>You can actually ask for month of free time and you'll get it (including WoD)
What?

>Wrath

Peak of the game.

>Cata

Cata was great at first and had a decline.

>MoP

Had some of the best raids in the game.

The only "bad" expansion for someone has actually played them is WoD.

>breaking up with someone over shallow things

Not even kidding
If your account is inactive just message them and ask for free game time

I've been keeping up with the class redesign fuckery for quite some time. Here's what I know about the changes:

>fucked beyond repair
All 3 Rogue specs
BrM and MW Monks

>just boring, not enough buttons or low interactivity between different class mechanics
Vengeance Demon Hunter
Feral, Guardian and Resto Druids
Prot Paladin
Prot Warrior
Resto Shaman
Frost Death Knight (been this way since WotLK)
WW Monk

>improved over old Cata/MoP/WoD mechanics
Surv and MM Hunter
Disc and Shadow Priest
Enh Shaman
UH Death Knight

On actual state, tested on PTR, you cant clear mythic HFC

Trinket procs are nerfed, your overall damage is nerfen by 20-30k depends on class.

New abilites are ok, but on this state you cant get past 3rd boss

For real? Wasn't it just the shit gear you're given on PTR and PTR shitters being shit?

Got any opinion on warlocks? Are they just the same ole shit?

>wrath
>peak of the game
more like beginning of the end. Wrath was trash

Demo saw the most changes but I didn't look into how Warlocks work very much. Also Affliction's artifact weapon has bizarre "on death" skills that seem like a wasted slot for Arena.

Assassination isn't THAT bad, but it's very clunky and weird to play but it "works"

Not him but

>Affliction
Resembles Vanilla/BC affliction more than the modern focus on drains and haunt

>Demo
Fun as fuck but still awkward because everything has a cast time, probably gonna be dogshit in PvP

>Destro
Shards are worse than embers, but it's the same old shit it has been building to

All 3 specs do no damage

What about Retribution? Saw that they're getting a lot of Crusader abilities from D3. How bad is it?

Demo isnt fun, it flows like fucking molasses.

Demonic Empowerment is an awful spell, you need 10 Weak Auras to play the spec correctly and even then its boring as fuck

only people who like demo are those who get hard just at the thought of imps, the spec plays like literal ass

>All 3 specs do no damage
Can we stop with this until the actual release? They're still tuning numbers

All shilling aside, absolutely no.

Nah it's the same shit as usual

>you need 10 Weak Auras to play the spec correctly
Weird, I can swear I heard the exact same opinion from a very whiney youtuber past his prime in terms of being good in WoW

Thanks fellas, as long as Affliction is fun and not gutter trash I'll be good.

WE WUZ WARCHIEFS AN SHEEEIT

Not for long

And now you can hear it from a US top 50 warlock

The spec is unplayable without Weak Auras because there is no way to track empowerment and there is no way to track number of demons in the base UI, which is core to how the spec functions, especially when the artifact spell scales with the number of demons you control

...

What about arms warriors? I played arms up all the way to Wotlk when I quit then had to switch when I resubbed at WoD. Is the pvp still garbage and my favorite spec uselss? Should I just buy Black Desert?

its better than WOD


thats all I got. Im not a big warrior guy but its not whirlwind spam anymore

Press Colossus Smash
Go AFK
Win game

OY, FEMINISM! FEMINISM PLEASE HELP! Someone cover up that midriff right now!

>literal cucks will unironically pay 49€ for this

I wish I made this up

Done

I think you mean press mortal strike hit for 150% of your opponents healthpool

>Placeholders

wew lad

Wow is beyond saving at this point and that's a fact

>implying a garrison UI period is okay

It's not but at least the emphasis is way down

There are still 50 people playing warlock or wow in general?

Pre-patch PTR is free to everyone right now, go try it and get it out of your system.

TBF, I didn't like her original costume. "Armor bikini" has always struck me as dumb outside of optional cheesecake armor sets.

BEST GIRL

>i-it's just a placeholder guys
>everything will be different, this time for real!
>PLEASE COME BACK

[muffled cocksucking in the background]

No.

You know how I can tell that you never played Warlords?

Because past the quests to construct the garrison you were literally never required to set foot in it again.

The only thing that could me back into paying 13 bucks a month for WoW are legacy realms.

I'm actually looking foraward to Blizzcon and hope for them to get announced

>classes

Not if you wanted to raid, you needed to do the shityard to get the legendary ring, and if you werent doing the missions you were passing up free fucking raid gear

never mind how bad the gold inflation was because of garrisons. If you werent doing garrisons for gold then you fell way behind the curve

Yeah except you fell behind by not collecting that endless free gold, reagents, alt gear, legendary ring (required for raiding).

Jokes on you, I'm currently subscribed and was since the launch of WoD.

The game is a steaming pile of shit and Legion is shaping up to be a complete trainwrek.

>human casters use % mana trinket because no need for pvp trinket
>dks being fucking op as shit
>shadowmourne in arena lolol
etc, etc

So you're basically complaining about walking into your garrison, clicking on the loot box and legendary item missions and then clicking the launch mission button?

You're going to mock an entire expansion for something which takes you 60 fucking seconds of game time a week?

>German
This explains everything

>Judging from the beta its literally WoD 2.0, meaning you should stay far away.
This.

Don't go anywhere near it.

you don't understand the main problem people has with shitlords of draenor

kill yourself and never post again

I'm going to mock an entire expansion if the only playable content is CLICKING THE LAUNCH BUTTON FOR 60 SECONDS A WEEK.

Yes

THIS is not acceptable content for a game. It should not spit out thousands of gold, mythic raid gear and legendary items. It shouldnt be involved at all, and the "wait 6 hours" component makes it even fucking worse

there is no justification for this trash. 1 minute is 1 minute too much

How can people say Legion is going to be bad? They havent given any reason other than assumptions about future mistakes, and the class order hall table but thats almost a non issue.

So we're ignoring all the dungeons, raids, world quests, reputations and ashran?

>you don't understand the main problem people has with shitlords of draenor
What is it? Enlighten me.

Don't do it then, that's pretty fucking simple. There's plenty of other content out there

>non issue
the fact that after WoD there is anything remotely like the garrison is a fucking disgrace

It's literally WoD 2.0

Look up all the videos and feedback from before WoD launch. It's exactly the same.

These expansions aren't made to hook you up for years. They are build to cuck you out of your 50 bucks for the game, a month of sub fees and maybe some shoptmounts before you quit again and play something actually fun.

Played the beta, it's better than WoD for sure, but overall it's still a shadow of what old wow was, and the new features don't make up for that. The best thing is the new animations and spell effects, the combat feels a lot better. Maybe if they really do pristine realms it could be a decent game, but right now it's not worth investing money for the expansion and game time unless you're a wow addict.

data that has been gathered over time can be quantifiable and qualitative.

>There's plenty of other content out there

Oh I'm laffin

>wow addict
>in 2016
How would that even work?

What was the problem with Warlords?

It's already been said that it wasn't Garrisons

>L I T E R A L L Y