>t's also worth noting that - clock-speeds and resultant TFLOPs aside - the specs for RX 480 are point-for-point a match for the GPU in Sony's upcoming PlayStation Neo, all but confirming that the Sony mid-gen console refresh uses both Polaris technology and the new 14nm FinFET chip manufacturing process.
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And you faggots still think PSNEO will be able to do 4K?
I'm not smart with tech stuff. explain this to me like i'm not smart with tech stuff.
did scorpio win?
It's just enough to make the psvr run less shitty. That's literally it.
I think it'll be able to play 4k blueray movies.
How many tityflops is that?
>PC runs 1440 @ 60-100fps on everything I throw at it with a 480.
It's possible.
Explain what?
Actually yes, not 4k at 60fps though.
4k/30 is very doable if it uses an RX 480, which beats out Fury X slightly.
Not to mention console hardware optimization.
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Neo= Pooplaris
Scorpio= Vega Master Race
To actually win, you need lots of sales.
And the Scorpio most likely won't get that far.
scorpio is supposed to be 6 tflops.
but that's nothing. the xbox one s plays 4kbluray. why would anyone buy a neo if that's the best it can do.
RX 480 is 5TFLOPS+
Scorpio has something 6TFLOPS+
1/6th difference at most
6+ apparently
How expensive is this shit going to be?
What, the Neo or the RX?
I don't think we're at 4k just yet. They probably need the rate boost to handle the 2X rendering that comes with stereo output.
Neo 500, Scorpio 699 USD
>if it uses an RX 480, which beats out Fury X slightly.
Sup Forums, pls.
With Sonys trademarked standard 14 FPS cinematic experiences? Maybe.
Scorpio is really overpriced, and that level of power is not needed.
Polaris is indeed inferior in power but it has monstrously higher yields Polaris will be shipping 25 times as much stock as Nvidia due to their absolute shit yields.
Seriously this is almost 1.7% wood screw fermi yields.
For $200 you can game at 1440p and 60fps, it's a far more than adequate card that offers the best tflop to dollar ratio.
>all but confirming that the Sony mid-gen console refresh uses both Polaris technology and the new 14nm FinFET chip manufacturing process
How is this important?
Market shares.
>RX 480 match PS4 NEO gpu specs
Well, the Radeon Technology Group leader did pretty much confirm this when he said the RX480 will be "strong enough" over the next 3 years.
That was the first hint the two have the same level of capabilities.
just on re-remastered games
get ready for those RE-Remastereds
Leaked docs show Neo at $399.99 on launch while the old PS4 will be kept as an entry level budget oriented console.
No info on Scorpio pricing but I'll bet $499.99, maybe price match Neo and sell at a loss to try and save face, but Investors would flip their lids probably.
So 60 fps bloodborne? That would be nice. I like watching my blood-soaked clothing ripple and I'd like to watch it ripple at 60fps.
I'm sorry Sup Forums, I forgot everyone who games on anything worse than 4k at 144hz is a poorfag who should kill themselves.
Israel thanks you for your purchase of your new octocore i7 and tri sli 1080s.
Does it have backward compatibility?!?!
Everything from here on out will have backwards compatibility to PS4.
for what?
but the neo is just a refreshed ps4 with 4k video playing capabilities and some 4k scaling.Is it supposed to be impressive?
>Still jealous he couldn't afford a 480 GTX when it came out.
>AMD just now releasing a 480 knockoff.
ATi confirmed dead.
I'm a bit skeptical of both of these revisions, to be honest. I think they are going to take a bit of time to get rolling after the initial fanboy launch splurge.
>just
It could have been much worse.
It could have been the same old Gamecube PPC750 core ever since 2001 like nintendo did.
>Not supporting Israel
Fuck off mudslime.
Do we even know the Neo's specs or is it all baseless speculation?
Can't wait to buy that knock off that is 5x as powerful.
>you have to be muslim to not like kikes
Cuck nigger lover detected.
GTX 480 LITERALLY went into high 90s/low 100s when playing anything remotely demanding.
Shit was an inferno and overpriced due to poor as fuck yields, the worst ever in the GPU industry probably.
>480 barely matches the 970
>neo is as powerful as a fucking 970
>not coming out for another year or two
o i am laffin.
having a gpu that is almost as powerful as a 970 is huge.
This. 4k my ass. Impossible at decent settings.
This is the news that made me buy a 1070 earlier today when the price was $400. I'll be set for 4-5 years now.
In another year or two it won't be.
I don't even know where they have this infofrom:
>It's also worth noting that - clock-speeds and resultant TFLOPs aside - the specs for RX 480 are point-for-point a match for the GPU in Sony's upcoming PlayStation Neo
It sounds like speculation.
for a console? Yeah that's a big deal.
>Decent Settings
>Console Settings
Pick one, it's always been obvious with the tiny draw distances and LODs on consoles, there's never been any optimisation, just aggressive detail culling. Consolebabs just can't see past the main character on screen.
The games will still be 900/1080p and 30fps with constant drops. Devs will just use the better hardware to push even more visual effects the console can't really handle and cut more corners during development to save on costs. No reason to even look at improving performance because the majority of their customers don't care and are fine with horrible, horrible performance.
No one believed that except shitposters and people who have no fucking idea how specs work.
It's 4K VIDEO. Sony added support for UHDBlurays.
Try running 4K on anything but LOW on a 1080. You can't.
>Try running 4K on anything but LOW on a 1080. You can't.
Uwotm8?
The 1080 can actually run a lot of games out on the market at or near 60 FPS at 4k on max settings.
ONLY if the developers themselves patch it in.
You will be able to run the game in 'Normal-Mode' and 'Neo-mode' on a Neo if they do that.
Sony are demanding that games have two versions; one for PS4 and one for NEO.
You won't be losing out if you wait until it's cheaper.
Nobody that isn't a computer illiterate believed that.
Seriously, I would be happy playing Bloodborne at a constant 30FPS. The frame dips are fucking atrocious.
Why the fuck do you retards keep discussing rumors?
>The 1080 can actually run a lot of games out on the market at or near 60 FPS at 4k on max settings.
yeah. old ass games that dont even need a 1080 to run in the first place.
oh man! you can run crysis at 4k, max settings and at 60fps. What a feat!
Is there any reason to grab a PS4 with the Neo on the way?
Jesus christ you're fucking retarded.
I don't agree with you in this case.
The developers will use the already 40 million PS4s as the base target for 1080P 30 fps.
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>Is there any reason to grab a PS4 with Scorpio on the way?
No.
No video games worth playing.
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2.3x faster GPU than PS4 normal.
If you dont have a normal ps4 go for it, if you have one but no 4k TV skip the neo
All I care about is 2 things: does the damn thing have the proper amount of thermal paste applied and if it's silent. I returned my PS4 after 2 weeks because of the insane coil whine.
Can it play Bloodborne?
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So was the whole 980/Fury equal thing a lie?
Why would I buy the 480 if it's 970 tier? Also the 390 is 970 tier.
Seriously what's the fucking point? Can anyone tell me?
>not simply preforming a simple maintenance and applying new or more thermal paste to your blood borne machine
things isnt hard to open up and clean jesus christ
yes.
>go on youtube
>look for no commentary bloodborne Lets Play
>put it on full screen
>sit back and enjoy while watching it on a 4k monitor.
NEVER EVER my fucking ass!
The RX 480 is using less than 100 watts.
no it doesnt
stop lying on the internet you're not impressing anyone
And? I dont't give a fuck about watts.
I'm asking why should I buy a new card that's equals to a 970, when the 390 beats the 970.
Without software none of this matters.
Someone in this thread complained about noise, so he gives a fuck about wattage.
So is it going to be more powerful than the Scorpio or not?
the point is that amd finally made a decent gpu for a good price.
the problem is, the peformance isnt any better than 2 year old cards ( 970 is almost 2 years old )
so whats the advantage, you ask ? the price
and thats it
and amdrones praise it like the second coming, when they dont realize its literally perfect for nvidia, allowing them to sell their cards at always higher price points.
there is even less competition than with the latest amd gen ( fury cards ) and somehow, for some retards, its a good thing
It's going to be cheaper and sell better.
I don't see it as a problem, because more higher end cards are on the way.
I would agree with you, but M$ kind of threw a monkey wrench into the works with their
>6 TFLOPS
>6 TFLOPS
>6 TFLOPS
Scorpio bullshit. I wouldn't be surprised if Sony delayed the NEO and respec'd to compete with it now.
You fucking retard that article is from 3 weeks ago are you genuinely stupid?
Nevermind samefag, you're just memeing.
The 480 HAS proven to be 980/Fury tier in all the benchmarks we've seen recently. That article just says that it beats a 970/390.
Fuck off now
No, obviously. Scorpio will be based in the Vega architecture who is more powerful and advanced in general.
If Neo uses RX 480, and possibly Scorpio as well, does that mean PC ports will require something better to run console games due to the nature of console ports?
The PS4 generation is the only exception when the strongest console got its deserved victory.
Every other instances had the cheaper console win.
People who don't know anything about computers like to spout this all the time.
But this is false.
Vega = HBM2
Scorpio = GDDR5
Scorpio is based on the same technology as Polaris, it's just beefed up.
Only if outsourced to noname shit studios like what happened to batman.
Also all games will use the PS4/Xbone original as the lead platform and than tweak them for Neo/Scorpio.
For you
>We know how Sony has achieved its performance target - it is almost certainly utilising the AMD Polaris 10 graphics core, using 36 next-gen GCN compute units clocked at 911MHz.Essentially, it is a downclocked version of the Radeon RX 480 graphics card - AMD's upcoming $199 next-gen GPU, aimed squarely at the mainstream gamer while also offering good, entry-level VR capabilities.
>We can be fairly sure that this GPU is a cut-down version of a yet-to-be-seen product, quite possibly one with 40 compute units. By leaving a portion of the CUs deactivated, imperfect chips can be used from the production line - it's a tactic used on both PS4 and Xbox One, both of which have two offline CUs on the silicon.
>However, based on the differential in spec between Neo and Scorpio, it's unlikely that the new Microsoft console uses Polaris at all. A 40 CU part would need a mighty overclock to hit 6TF, and based on the rendered imagery we've seen, the heating assembly planned for Scorpio looks a little lacklustre. With that in mind, our money is on a downclocked version of AMD's upcoming Vega technology.
whats the point of 4k when barely anyone actually has a 4k monitor.
I know all you dumb faggots are just pretending that you actually own one.
SNES beat Genesis in power.
Considering most people buy digital these days yes.
You can get an HDR 4K TV with tablet remote+normal remote for $1k.(Vizio P series, 50 inch, 55 is $1200)
You can get a basic 4K TV for $500
NEO uses something like the RX470 with some OC going on probably.
I doubt it's the 480 and what I said makes more sense and it's smarter. I mean a 760 is stronger than a Ps4 to say an example, a 470 is much better than that.
>it's unlikely that the new Microsoft console uses Polaris at all.
This writer needs to brush up his wording a bit.
Scorpio is designed around the same time Neo was designed. They both use the same GPU core, the same memory controller.
So Scorpio has more in common with Neo and Polaris than anything else.
That article will seem outdated soon because it's looking more like the PS4 Neo is a match for the RX 470 which comes in at 4.5 TFlops and the RX 470 has the same amount of CU, ROP and ACE units as the PS4 neo. Slightly cut down for TDP and power usage. Neo is not going to be anywhere near a RX 480 it seems.
Plus if they had a real RX 480 in such a small box like the PS4 has, they may as well call it the PS4 Fermi
Impossible. Sony is ready to ship this year and MS is still in the "Blueprint" stage of talking to developers and publisher partners. If Sony were to scrap it just to change elements of it, it would cost them billions in R&D, buying new components and having to pay AMD to re-assemble components. Investors would fucking freak and demand heads would roll if Sony pulled that move.
Not happening unless everyone working in Sony Interactive Entertainment's hardware division wants to get the "Please quit" treatment like Ken Kutaragi did.
>AMDfags starting to compare their shitty GPU to consoles
>Plus if they had a real RX 480 in such a small box like the PS4 has, they may as well call it the PS4 Fermi
I hope yo realise the PS4 itself is huge compared to a regular videocard.
The cooler will be more than adequate.
The thing is: The PlayStation NEO is rumored to come out this year or early 2017, meanwhile Project Scorpio was confirmed for a 2017 second half release.
I mean, they could always move the date, but it's likely that NEO and NX will be out before Scorpio and that is not good news for Xbox.
If they're going to stick with 2017 second half, I think they should at least upgrade the announced Project Scorpio a bit. I don't know about prices, but maybe using HBM2 could be an option.
Doesn't help that all major exclusive titles are also available on Windows 10.
tl;dr They should release Project Scorpio areound the same time as NEO and/or NX.
i never said anything about price being the reason.
the average consumer isnt going to upgrade their TV to 4k just because its affordable.
>tfw I fell for the UHD meme.