>Kirby is 8 inches tall, Sakurai said so He's wrong, we now know his actual height. Thanks to Samus's (canon) appearance in Kirby's Dream Land 3, standing straight up in the same perspective as the other characters. >Samus is 6'3" (in her suit) >Samus in KDL3 is 48 pixels tall >1 pixel = 1.5625 inches >Kirby is 18 pixels tall
Kirby is about 2 feet and 4 inches tall. Kirby's body itself is a sphere about 68.6 cm in diameter.
Also, Ado is very small, she's about the size of a 4 or 5 year old child. She could just be small for her age.
Logan Cruz
Neat.
Adrian Russell
>dedede is a manlet Fuck
Adam Fisher
But that's just a theory A GAME THEORY
Elijah Martinez
in the context of the Kirby universe he's a big guy
Sebastian Wilson
>Thanks to Samus's (canon) appearance in Kirby's Dream Land 3 how do you know its canon
Anthony Reed
Alternatively, Kirby is 8 inches tall(it's canon) and Samus is actually only 1'9" in her suit. Wherever it says that Samus is 6'3" is actually wrong.
Jaxon Martinez
Look at her arm.
Alexander Anderson
>The man who made the canon is wrong Fuck off.
Zachary Morales
dedede is a fucking bird.
Samuel Gonzalez
>8 inches
what?
Cameron Robinson
he's fucking giant for a penguin
Christopher Ross
he's smaller than my dick
Luke Wood
>Gooey and Waddle Dee 2'8" >Chuchu 2'11" including her bow Sorry for an errors. I'll measure Queen Sectonia next.
It directly influences gameplay (metroids) and story, she plays her part in the construction of the Love-Love Stick by giving you a necessary heart-star.
Robert Thomas
King DeDeDe is perfect, you're a giantlet.
Eli Morris
BUT THAT'S JUST A THEORY
Julian Torres
maybe that's what sakurai calls his penis.
now I can see the misunderstanding.
Liam Adams
is it confirmed to be the real samus and not some kirby-universe equivalent that is shorter than 6'3?
Xavier Brooks
Holy fuck you dumb shit legs are obviously part of a person height? Why the fuck does Dedede and that yellow fuck get to have their hat included in their height but Kirby gets his fucking feet discluded from his height?
This is some fucking blatant dedede anti-kirby propaganda shilling and I won't tolerate it. Delete this post at once you horrible person.
Andrew Ward
A GAME THEORY
Michael Green
>not accounting for exponentially increasing pixel height Put it on a logarithmic scale, I want to see how it comes out.
Lucas Turner
i don't see any basis for believing that
Jacob Rogers
i dont see any basis for believing kirby is anything other than 8 inches tall
Adrian Taylor
then read the op
Nolan Harris
those are baseless assumptions
Joseph Gomez
>Why the fuck does Dedede and that yellow fuck get to have their hat included in their height but Kirby gets his fucking feet discluded from his height? They don't, which is why they're in blue. The white measurements are the true ones (or in Kirby's case, light pink) Kirby don't have his feet discluded, I'm simply looking at how big only his body is.
Joshua Cruz
you're factually wrong
Caleb Morris
>kirby creator explicitly says he is 8 inches tall >hurrdurr he's wrong cause see t-these pixels here its actually not 8 inches lmao jesus christ so much autism
Aaron Cruz
isn't he taller in smash bros.?
Kayden Anderson
>It directly influences gameplay (metroids) and story, she plays her part in the construction of the Love-Love Stick by giving you a necessary heart-star. Still doesn't mean it's canon
Josiah Bennett
Sakurai can say whatever he wants but in 1999 when Smash was made, Sakurai's involvement in the Kirby series was already lessening. He had nothing to do with the very canon Kirby's Dream Land 3, for instance, he can't just claim that when the games themselves don't support that claim. It would be like Sakamoto suddenly saying "Samus is trans" even though the games don't support that, doesn't automatically mean it's true. If you use your eyes in both cases you can see that's not the case.
Jeremiah Moore
What does?
Lucas Davis
looks like 8 inches to me.
Anthony Garcia
i guess ridley is about the same height as samus then
Henry Green
To be fair Smash's sizes are all over the place. Not canon.
>Being retarded on purpose Retconned with Zero Mission
Wyatt Wood
>Retconned with Zero Mission says who
Ian Evans
>too big in Smash >too small in Sakurai's headcanon kek
Ridley has never had a consistent or established size to be fair, and that was before the character was developed. Using that as a counterpoint would be like arguing that Luigi is NOT taller or thinner than Mario because they looked the same in Super Mario Bros. 3.
Easton Scott
It's called a "cameo" bruh. Lots of games have them. By your logic, Mario exists in the same universe as Ocarina of Time since there is a photo of him in Hyrule Castle. >but that could be a lookalike or not really him! Same can be applied to Samus in DL3
Parker Robinson
Nah man, stuff like Link and Samus in SMRPG are cameos. The Mario OoT shit you mentioned are cameos. Quick, meaningless, missable easter eggs. Samus is a necessary unmissable character in DL3 that is tangibly right next to you. It's more than a cameo, she's on the same par as any other level-friend character in the game. You actually have to get ice powers and kill metriods to help Samus and progress with the game.Were they all cameos too? Where do you draw the line? Tell when Mario physically unmissably shows up in OoT during the main quest, pats Link on the back and gives him a helpful item, because that would be on the same par.
Is the captcha fucked up for anyone else?
Evan Jones
The importance or utility of a character does not change their level of canon. Canon is a standard set by the creator. If it is an a cameo (such as in this case) it's canon is debatable until mentioned by the creator. By nature, cameos tend to be non canon. Considering you moved the goalposts to an exact and specific area, I'll play on your terms. >Link was in Soul Calibur 2. Let's assume that the canon of Link in that game was never mentioned by Nintendo or Namco (because I really don't know if it was). By your logic that shit was canon and if we were having this discussion in 2010, you'd be assuming that shit would be in Hyrule Historia.
It's a fucking cameo mate.
Ayden Collins
It's canon that Link was in Soul Calibur, yeah. Wasn't aware Soul Calibur really had a canon, but alright.
Gabriel Hernandez
who cares
Adrian Ross
scholars
Luke Lopez
Holy shit are you dense. It's not canon, just like it is not fucking canon that Spawn, Yoda, and Darth Vader were in Soul Caliber's world. It's just fun shit the developers do. Sakurai or whatever developers and coders that made DL3 just thought it'd be cool to put Samus and Metroids in the game...for fucking fun.
Kayden Stewart
What if... all this shit is actually inconsistent because the devs never really cared about them? Just like the Zelda timelines
Zachary Anderson
You clearly don't know enough about Kirby's Dream Land 3 or Kirby in general to be having this conversation. You don't seem to really have a grasp on what "canon" means, either.
Xavier Martinez
Kirby changes size. Play Mass Attack, he's like a pebble in that one.
But Kirby has the deepest lore.
Jordan Ortiz
>Play Mass Attack, he's like a pebble in that one. That's the premise of the game dude
Nolan Rogers
We're talking about the canon of fucking Kirby man. Stop projecting with your "not understanding." You have an autisticically bad mind canon set solely for Kirby that has no consistency with other video game canons if you applied those same, precise rules.
Chase Lee
Sakurai was actually talking about Kirby's dick
Bentley Jones
>goes into Kirby tread talking about Kirby lore what not knowing shit about Kirby or its lore >continues moving goalposts and doing mental gymnastics what a waste of time, just close the tab lmao even if it's not canon that doesn't fucking matter, it's the actual samus standing right there next to kirbo
Jordan Peterson
what if it's someone else with a power suit?
Tyler Evans
Harumph. I'm a faggot. It's not canon. Harumph. Fight me.
Jace Ward
Link had to utilize a BowWow in LA. Considering you can't fucking dream up something you've never seen, BowWows exist in Zelda's universe. It's canon apparently. Not an Easter Egg or cameo. Some intentional world building, no?
Jose Evans
>not measuring nothing personell cutie-blob
Jaxson Watson
See, the thing about many video games is that what you see is just an abstraction of the "reality" that happens in-universe. For instance, when you grab a coin or power-up or kill an enemy and you see a number appear showing points, that number doesn't actually show up in the game's reality. Similarly, levels and stats in RPGs don't also show up or get treated literally by the inhabitants of those worlds. In the case of Kirby presented here, I think that the heights presented are supposed to be relative sizes, not absolute sizes. Kirby is smaller than just about everybody, which fits with the 8 inch narrative. This would also explain why characters can be different absolute heights across games and series; Olimar is the size of a quarter in Pikmin, but he's only about half Samus' height in Smash Bros, because again, all that really matters is that Olimar LOOK small.
Carter King
the helmet comes off you casual fuck
i don't fight faggots, i kiss them
>Considering you can't fucking dream up something you've never seen lol
Dominic Clark
what if that person just looks similar?
Julian Roberts
But they did, 5'6 including fins.
Though it's hard to tell because he seems to be squeezing himself into an oval to appear taller.
Jeremiah Evans
They were in a Link to the Past, he's seen them
Justin Martinez
what if the world was made of pudding?
Easton Johnson
I ain't moving the goalposts, you states that for you, and I guess everything else in vidya, that something is canon if it is in the main campaign that can't be missed and has utility? Conker and Banjo live in the same universe as Donkey Kong, and by extension Mario, and by extension Little Mac
Isaiah Gomez
That's right. Prove that they don't.
Aaron Phillips
>you cant dream of something youve never seen
Bullshit, Ive dreamed I was kissing a girl
Kevin Wood
I don't have to prove shit. You just have retarded manchild headcanon going on with all your fictional Nintendo friends.
Gabriel Robinson
>IT NEVER HAPPENED, IT DOESN'T COUNT >but evidence supports they do, you can't decide what retroactively did not exist in a video game >FUCK OFF IT DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE I SAY SO You have the purest for of autism. It's kind of beautiful, keep posting.
Austin Gray
Please go on, be that retard who states that Star Wars, Spawn, Tekken and Zelda all take place in the same universe. Fucking idiot.
Adrian Fisher
>I don't have to prove shit
Ethan Mitchell
>Star Wars, Spawn, Tekken and Zelda all take place in the same universe. In Soul Calibur they do, apparently.
Christopher Powell
The same applies to your argument cornfuck. There's other factors that evaluate what is canon as I stated earlier: notably what the creator/owner directly states as well as the rules they put forth. For example: J.K. Rowling stating Dumbledore is gay. She is his creator, and what she says goes. Another example of the later would be Star Wars. The rules set forth by Lucas was that whatever is in the films is canon, and books he declared as canon are canon. If something in a canon book contradicted something in a film, the film's canon overrides the book in whatever scenario it is.
When in a game, there are threse things called Easter eggs and cameos, as you mentioned earlier you know what these are. It's common fucking sense to assume Samus in DL3 was a cameo. You're supposed to think "oh neat Samus! Cool thing there you did Nintendo." You could apply this to any two games and the average person who'd think the same thing. Let's say you're playing a Megaman game and halfway through a level a mini boss pops up outta nowhere and its fucking Richard Belmont. You'd think "oh cool a little cameo Easter egg." Not: HOLY FUCK DEEPEST LORE.
Easton Sanders
some one is projecting pretty hard
Angel Foster
>Samus in DL3 was a cameo. A cameo appearance, yeah, still part of the game so it actually happened. Samus was in a Kirby game, it being a cameo doesn't mean it didn't really happen. It's not like DL3 is comparable to some clusterfuck guest fighter fighting game with no real story or setting, but you'd have to be a retard to draw that kind of comparison.
Alexander Gutierrez
>Samus >6'3''
You're wrong
Carson Young
Fighting games so have a story and setting though. I honestly don't give a fuck about them, but it's there, an actual canon. You could say Samus guest starred in DL3.
Christian Hughes
How can a kirby thread hold so much hate? Are these the end times? Is this Zero's work?
Isaac Nguyen
You could say that, yeah. She's about as important as other characters in it like Pitch's mom or Chuchu's friend.
Zachary Phillips
>(in her suit) You're retarded.
Asher Garcia
I made sure to get the "neutral" positions for each character, nobody is contorting..
Andrew Foster
...
Alexander Lewis
that's not Samus that's Sheamus, the crybaby irish boy
Brayden Ortiz
Just post comfy things.
Lincoln Lopez
I swear this board is full of retarded children now. Nobody can be that stupid to go against what the creator of the character himself says
Christopher Bennett
OP blown the fuck out
William Morris
Kirby needs to stop raping that cannon, it's ruining the picture.
Levi Ramirez
Alternatively they descaled Samus' size to fit more with everyone else.
Bentley Ward
>R.O.B. appears in DL3 >R.O.B. in an NES accessory >Metroid is an NES game >Samus appears in DL3
She must have shrunk when she jumped out of the game
Julian Price
>greedo shot first! fuck off idiot
Michael Parker
It doesn't matter how tall he was once, with INFINITE POWER Kirby can be however fucking tall he wants
Jayden Torres
that wasn't an actual ROB toy, it was an real robot created by a comparatively small human. ROB even looks pretty different in DL3.
Ryan Jenkins
Sakurai's a fucking retard who isn't even responsible for the best parts of the Kirby series, he can shut the fuck up. I'm still assflustered he was so jealous of the other writers upstaging him that he never included any of their cool Kirby stuff in Smash Bros.
Mason Rogers
Infinite power my ass
Brody Fisher
Rick and Gooey have trophies in Melee, and plenty of DL3 and K64 characters have stickers in Brawl, but those were more likely members of HAL than Sakurai himself.
Juan Turner
>"insert shittyass analogy for being dumb"
John Hernandez
>Implying this is a Kirby thread
Ayden Johnson
It is a Kirby thread. Feel free to post and talk about Kirby.
Thomas Martin
It started with good intentions
Adrian Ross
A couple trophies and stickers suck. There was great potential for assist trophies from the other titles in the series. Also I'm assmad that Sakurai didn't do "Masked Dedede" as Dedede's Final Smash, like c'mon dude why wouldn't you do that?
Caleb Ward
I wouldn't count the fins, 4'8 seems to be a more fair measurement imo
Carson Moore
Well shit. Posting 2nd coolest villain that will never return. ; ;
Angel Allen
I just wish there was an Ado/Adeleine helper trophy, it would fit perfectly and be exactly the same as what she does in the games