Hard JRPG

Looking for a JRPG that is hard because of complex mechanics and not because the bosses are way above your level, and you just farm so "solve them"
Bonus points for great story

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You can try Lost Odyssey on the 360. It fits your bill of requirements for the first few boss fights, but the game does get easier as it goes on. There's no real grinding in the game, you gain a ton of exp until you reach the recommended level for the area you're in, then you get almost none for every encounter after it, until the next area where you don't have the recommended level.

Langrisser maybe

while the first isn't exactly tough the M&L series fights are won with skill and not leveling up to beat them.

Some MegaTen or The Last Remnant.

>megaten
But you have to grind for demons to fuse to get the right skills to win boss battles.

Vandal Hearts can be hard if you choose wrong classes. Even then some spots are tough. No grinding either.

Never played megaten.
I don´t own any console, only pc, where should I start?

Do care if it's turn-based or real-time? If you're fine with real-time, try the Ys games. The ones built on the 6 engine (6, Oath in Felghana, Origin) in particular are challenging and great fun.

You dont' really have to grind much in megaten, the essential skills are available near enough to the start. The early games are mechanially broken though, and the difficulty is kind of all over the place.

Also, some of the bosses are an RNG nightmare. Fucking Mot, man.

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The only megaten game where I had to grind was Nocturne and that was only for the TDE boss

Sooo long since I played M&L series. May pick one up now that I have a 3ds.

hm are 360 emulators decent yet?

If you have a i5 or better cpu, well decent 3+ghz dual core or better you can emulate ps2. Theres not a lot out on pc alone.

SMT3 or Persona 3 are always good starts. All of the games are emulatable - with the exception of 4 and 4 Apocalypse and the Devil Survivor rereleases.

Dark Souls is a JRPG where you only grind if you're not good enough to win with stock gear/low level :^)

to sum up the 3DS games
Dream Team is nicer overall but you may find the tutorials a bit annoying if you aren't used to them by now
Paper Jam's world design is a bit lacking in some places but does have a few areas that shine. its bosses are the absolute best and most challenging in the series though

>PC only
That's going to limit you a bit for JRPGs, outside of good emulation. You can easily emulate SMT I and II, but those games are kind of mechanically fucked with really weird difficulty curves.

Noctune, Strange Journey and IV are pretty good places to start, so if you can emulate those, go for it.

Also, for , all the 6 engine Ys games are on PC, so that should do you just fine if you want to try Ys. Probably a good idea to have a gamepad through.

Already completed the 1st one looking to play II and III after finals. And dark souls is not JRPG is was developed by a japonese company. Also you can regulate the diffuculty as you want, by not farming, or playing different classes

play wizardry instead

Tactics Ogre, Final Fantasy Tactics, Ogre Battle, etc

entire genre of these games exists

I'd go with emulating Nocturne.

You have to figure out the right skills and/or immunities instead of just grinding experience points for some +stats, so I feel like MegaTen fulfills OP's condition of "solving" the bosses.

Those are all easy as shit.

Last Remnant, but that's more of a bullshit.

Pokemon, with a difficulty patch. The game gets really fun and challenging if you let people who aren't the retards at GameFreak design enemy teams.

>mnant, but that's more of a bullshit.
heard the game was hardcore, the story sucked tough

what you mean by difficulty pach? I have played nuzlocks, and egglocks before dunno if you talking about those. Some hacked version to that I found harder than the original game

Last Remnant is a game that actively punishes you for playing it. Might be up your alley.

By hacked I versions I meant different games set in another region, different story

Romhacks, such as Blaze Black and Volt White by Drayano.