How much legal trouble would a developer get in if they were to make a game depicting the protagonist serving alcohol to a child ? And then the child drinking it ?
What about a game where the protagonist can get it on with children, assuming it's not explicitly shown BUT it's explicitly stated that the protagonist did it ? What if it's only strongly implied ?
What about a game where in-game children are taught hate speech, to become kamikazes, etc...
Basically everything about children is go, I'd like to know what's the most fucked up situation involving children that you can put in a game without having too much legal trouble.
if its a AAA game the media will lose their shit if its a game the mainstream doesnt know about nobody would care. Kind of like those 80 OVAs
Juan Peterson
Should be fine. I think it's brutal murder and porn of children that's usually a no no.
William Nelson
Worst case scenario the ESRB won't want to give you a rating and Gamestop won't stock it.
So for an indie game... No repercussions at all?
Jonathan Gomez
japan does this ALL THE TIME and they aren't going to jail
you'll be fine user
Nicholas Flores
Most of the people on Sup Forums are too young to remember this, but there was a best-selling RPG series in the 90s called Ultima.
A running gag through most of the later games was that there would be a situation where the protagonist would be pressured to kill children in order to escape a bad spot. I remember a spot filled with feral children in the forest of Ultima 8: Pagan.
The funny thing is that you could flat out murder these kids and I don't remember any negative consequences for doing so. Most people on Sup Forums only remember the killable children from Deus Ex or Fallout 1/2, not the ones before that.
The killable children in Fallout 1/2 were removed in the GOG editions because of some weird external pressure, so you won't find them any more.
Lucas Sanchez
>Sup Forums isn't an oldfag like me!
Robert Thomas
Alright, thanks guys. I couldn't find anything about it with my google-fu, though I'd check that it's because there actually isn't that much about it.
Yeah, but Japan laws about children are weird anyway. I mean it's the lolicon country. Or are there laws not that different ?
Charles Bailey
I just find it hypocritical when some people obsess over how "casual" outsiders are about their hobby, but don't even understand their own hobby's history. It's more amusing than anything, like a child yelling "I'm not yelling!"
Joshua Rogers
the worst part about the children being removed was that they weren't actually removed, but made invisible, so the children could still pickpocket you, and you'd never be able to get your items back
Christopher James
I am using this information to put Japan in jail now
Dylan Ramirez
All he wanted to do is lay down some info, you don't need to berate him like a fuckwit.
Julian Phillips
That explains why my stuff randomly began to disappear when I replayed the GOG editions.
Thought I was becoming senile.
Asher Brown
jesus man just watch the fucking Spoony videos and you'll know enough without playing the games
Robert James
None Expect a huge backlash by SJW and the media, but its free marketing.
Ethan Ramirez
The media would lose their shit but the most that would probably happen is not being able to sell the game in australia
Levi Young
I remember that cringe-worthy scene at the end of Ultima 9 where a little kid begs you to kill her because she's been "tortured" and "poisoned."
Instead of feeling emotional or disturbing, it feels like this embarrassing DeviantArt-tier attempt at trying to make you feel guilt. That series really ended on a low note.
Nathan Rogers
I almost wish they kept this in the game.
The funny thing is that no one really pressured them to remove it. They just didn't think it was funny or appropriate.
Blake Baker
Is user making the child-soldier management game Kojima was too pussy to go through with?
Landon Gomez
Just say the child is really a 1000 year old dragon and you'll be fine
Wyatt Edwards
Reminds me of Messiah
This game had such great ideas, but it was just such a chore to play through most of the time. Most of Shiny's games were "good ideas, inconsistent execution" aside from Earthworm Jim.
Xavier Ross
would people get buttblasted if a game let you play as a german soldier during ww2?
Matthew Torres
You should drink only once you're 20!
Julian Flores
never really saw a game that did any of that
Easton Watson
What the shit? That is retarded, and sounds incredibly confusing.
Are there any other games that had content changed for one reason or another that affected other things in the game?
Isaac Nguyen
>How much legal trouble would a developer get in if they were to make a game depicting the protagonist serving alcohol to a child ? And then the child drinking it ? 0, you can't get into legal trouble for having a protagonist that's a bad person.
Adam Williams
Yes, because they were all bad. All bad. The "just following orders" excuse is very problematic.
John Watson
Is HellMOO that creepy text MMO with the childn mutilation and rape?
That shit's crazy. Not even offensive so much as laughably absurd.
Gavin Perez
How new to games are you? There are fucking hundreds of games that let you do that.
Jace Gonzalez
I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream
The entire fifth of the game about the Holocaust was restricted in the German version, which makes the good ending literally impossible to achieve without modding the game back.
Josiah Ramirez
>being this edgy
I think the OP want the protag to be a good person
Luke Martin
I can't think of a single book/movie/game/whatever besides the islam bible thing where a character has sex with kids AND is shown in a positive light
Joshua Parker
> Rule of Rose
Fucking Atlus. A little girl even lifts her skirt up in the opening cinematic.
barley any single player campaigns for the germans tho, its mostly multiplayer picking between sides
Mason Watson
Would the South Park series count?
Anthony Rodriguez
True, the only game off the top of my head that has a campaign where you play as Germans is RO2 and that's just multi with bots. As long as most people believe that all German soldiers during WW2 were Nazis no mainstream dev will dare make a game where the protag is one.
Asher Lewis
Couldn't you slaughter all the child NPCs in the Phantom Menace game from 1999? I never played it but I vaguely remember hearing about that.
Zachary White
Is the gog version uncensored?
Jason Jones
You can accidentally kill child NPCs in Baldur's Gate and the early Jagged Alliance games.
Julian Hernandez
Atlus only published it, and only in the west after Sony refused to.
Nicholas Ramirez
I honestly have no idea. It probably is the original version. I don't see why they'd put the German version up there instead of the original.
Julian Gonzalez
Spain is supposedly equally chill about it, if Sup Forums is to be believed. AoC in most of continental Europe is like 13/14 too, IIRC.
Hudson Robinson
>Adults aren't attracted to kids.
Chase Clark
didn't metal gear solid 5 have african child soldiers?
Wyatt Hill
But it's true.
Jonathan Williams
You can kill children and sell them drugs in Pathologic
Brayden Rivera
theres no way that isnt a boy
Ian Peterson
Nah, sorry to disappoint.
Matthew Taylor
He's right though, less than 5% of Sup Forums would have played shit like Ultima or Wizardry
Gavin Walker
>somebody evidently has a broader horizon than I do, but if I meme arrow the SHIT out of him, I'm sure my insecurity will go away at some point Do you like what you do, user?
Jackson Davis
>unironically watching spoony
that's for two teenagers together from memory
once they're over 18 you can't have sex with anyone younger than 16
Luis Edwards
>user lays down info about child violence in video games >treat it as elitist remark
Insecure about your intelligence?
Evan King
That's kinda up to the player. I mean he _can_ simply decide "yeah, I'll be the king of crime".
Isaiah Perez
Legal trouble?
Zero.
Its just a public relations problem.
Hudson Brooks
Hatred was such a big success, wasn't it?
Nolan Gomez
>once they're over 18 you can't have sex with anyone younger than 16 Huh. That's a weird requirement. But then again, the AoC here is 16 for straight people, I think it's 18 for gays and I'm not sure lesbians have them.
Brayden Howard
The problem with hatred is that the game sucks. But the controversy helped the game a lot.
Jaxson Richardson
Its 14 here in austria.
Austin Miller
Is there anyone that didnt start drinking with 14 or 15?
Ryder Gutierrez
It used to be 13 here in mexico until usa changed it to 18.
Kevin Morgan
Didn't you guys have really restrictive censorship, like not flat girls in porn? Or was that just overblown? We've got all sorts of weird restrictions here (including a loliban), but I've never heard of anyone being prosecuted for it.
Almost everyone here starts drinking before finishing primary school...so like, 10-13.
Colton White
I didn't drink till I was 19
Cooper Brooks
>Didn't you guys have really restrictive censorship, like not flat girls in porn That was us in Australia, but I think it was overturned
Jaxson Collins
Austria, not australia The one with the mountains and Hitler.
Isaac Young
Sorry, I actually read the post as Australia for some reason. Which doesn't make any sense because it was about continental Europe. I'll just stop posing now.
Mason Robinson
>ywn be father the of a qt and have an excuse to caress her prebuscent chest in public
Mason Rodriguez
I'm 30 and a I have only gotten actually drunk like 5 times in my life. Never been my thing.
Wyatt Sanders
That's not an excuse, you still look like a creep
Elijah Stewart
>yfw your daughter dies from breast cancer because you didn't check her chest regularly for lumps
Jace Powell
In prey there was a scene where a kid gets possessed and impales another kid.
Benjamin Turner
I drink at least 1 beer per month and I've gotten really drunk like 3 or 4 times in my life and i'm 25
Gavin Garcia
Still, the "No tiny tits in porn" thing never actually happened, it was just a proposal or something and it spread around the internet as a law.
Brayden White
If you are in South Korea, you will get fucked. Prepare to be labled and registered as a pedophile and sent to prison. Not sure about Canada I remember my friend saying drawn depiction of children in a sexual way was illegal there as well.
Carson Bell
SJWs invaded japan in 2011 and tried to ban lolicon, they got completely BTFO and were never heard from again
Cooper Collins
They did slap us with enough Geoip blocks to make it a pain in the ass.
Juan Johnson
uh guess they didn't block my country because nothing changed for me italy
Evan Brooks
I get drunk several nights a week because it makes me sleepy and otherwise I stay up all night.
Dylan Morgan
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Benjamin Hughes
Whatever happened to that goofball Ishihara? I heard he ran for PM at some point after his term as Governor of Tokyo ended.