Voice acting in a Zelda game

>Voice acting in a Zelda game

Why!?

>mfw I always thought the mic was a huge mole

>close-up scenes in a Pokémon game
Why!?

>Still no female link

NEVER EVER

Because it is the current year

Zelda needs to evolve user

what if her breasts just need time to pop in?
view them from close distance

Zelda and Ganon will probably be the only ones to speak.

so long as link doenst have real dialogue in the classic sense then i dont mind

>>Still no female link

See, if BOTW does have this, I'm gonna instantly take points off for it. Voice acting does nothing to help a game, and Nintendo of all people should know that wasting budget on non-gameplay elements is grounds for disaster. Having grunts and enemy sounds here and there, I can understand. But VA work is garbage, and will detract from the game, because you know they're gonna want the cutscenes to be unskippable just so you can hear their """masterful voice acting""".

I'm even casting doubt as to whether they'll keep that "you can go right to Ganon" shtick.

It has voice acting from the very start of the e3 stream.

> Voice acting does nothing to help a game

You call it evolution, I call it ticking a checkbox on a list of pointless additions because other games have it.

Damn, I must've missed it. Well, there goes any hope I had for the game.

You doubt it? Look at Super Mario Sunshine and compare it to Super Mario Galaxy.

"We want the call of duty audience"

rosalina's story wasn't any more palatable by just having baby music
super mario sunshine was a game where you scrubbed shit and super mario galaxy was a game where you jumped around planetoids to an epic soundtrack, the voice acting didn't make the difference

In an age when developers bend over backwards to please people that dont even play games this is actually nice.

>Voice acting is bad
>Ignores voice acting in games like max payne, metal gear solid, and even mad fucking max (a game that is made bearable by its great VA)

Not every game has FFX levels of voice acting.

Also

>Implying the wealthiest (literally) company in the gaming industry cant afford to shell out some shekels to pay top notch voice acting.

You're probably one of the retards who think zelda or fallout/TES graphics (whatever style they have) shouldn't look good because "it'll ruin the story and gameplay!"

>rosalina's story wasn't any more palatable by just having baby music
Would it have been made better if Tara Strong or Nolan North was narrating it?

>super mario sunshine was a game where you scrubbed shit and super mario galaxy was a game where you jumped around planetoids to an epic soundtrack, the voice acting didn't make the difference
Yes, and do you know why Sunshine had you scrubbing "shit"? Because they wasted their budget on voice acting. It was creatively AND economically bankrupt.

I see what you did there

>Damn, I must've missed it. Well, there goes any hope I had for the game.
ONE character had voice acting. One.

It's only been shown in the first few minutes in the game. Every other interaction has been entirely text based or nondescript talking/grunting noises. You can come out from your perplexing "No voice acting allowed ever" bunker

Isn't it great user? Shirtless rascal adventures here we come!

The Zelda series has been stuck in a bubble since Twilight Princess. Breath of the Wild is a much needed fresh take on the Zelda formula

>max payne, metal gear solid, and even mad fucking max
All of which were forgettable, mediocre games. Except for Metal Gear, which was a forgettable movie. It doesn't make for good gameplay at all.

>Implying the wealthiest (literally) company in the gaming industry cant afford to shell out some shekels to pay top notch voice acting.
Of course they can afford. But they'lll shove the costs onto us, and we'll be paying even more for it. You want Nintendo games to elevate to 80 dollars a piece, with amiibo DLC?

>You're probably one of the retards who think zelda or fallout/TES graphics (whatever style they have) shouldn't look good because "it'll ruin the story and gameplay!"
They shouldn't have graphics unless they're gonna help the game. At some point you have to stop trying to be "high definition" and "realistic" and put some of that time and effort into the gameplay.

>b-but games are art! they need voice acting and story and deep symbolism

I don't think so. They need to be GAMES first. Prove to me that your game will be good, then you can have your fancy voice acting and realistic graphics and all that trash. But from webms like this I have to really question the polish they're putting into the game, or should I say lack of polish.

Movies:

Other studios are making color films back in the early 20th century, GUESS WE SHOULD CHECK THAT POINTLESS ADDITION BECAUSE OTHER STUDIOS ARE DOING IT.

Go fuck yourself you insufferable cunt.

Because voices automatically make a game bad. Fuck game design and all that unnecessary shit, as long as you don't have voice acting you're good to go

>Fuck game design and all that unnecessary shit
Why are you putting voice acting into your game when you haven't even finished the gameplay yet?

>polish
that implies they ever created an acceptably workable final product

The only real issue with the female link thing is they waffled when confronted instead of sticking to their guns.
"Link has always been male so he'll be male for this game too" is fine as a reason "We couldn't think of any way a female character would make sense" is a stupid one.

Still in development asshole, Digital Foundry discovered the demo is actually unoptimized running on a debug console. We haven't seen the final product yet

Miyamoto recently stated the main Zelda games will always star Link.

However they have considered a Sheik spinoff

Why am I even responding to this shitty bait?

>All of which were forgettable, mediocre games. Except for Metal Gear, which was a forgettable movie. It doesn't make for good gameplay at all.

No, thats literally your opinion and if its real then its a shitty opinion. MGS (any game from the franchise really) has received universal acclaim and its pretty fucking memorable. The same goes for Max payne. Bad gameplay? Literally how, you fucking dumbass, Metal gear literally invented the sneaking genre and revolutionized it with MGS1.

Max payne also revolutionized 3rd person shooter and was the first game to use player controlled slow motion

They all have memorable stories that are made even more memorable because of the fucking amazing VA, you fucking dumbass.

>Of course they can afford. But they'lll shove the costs onto us, and we'll be paying even more for it. You want Nintendo games to elevate to 80 dollars a piece, with amiibo DLC?

This is some shit tier bait dude. GTA V is one of the most expensive games ever made, if not the most expensive, and it costed 60 dollars and came with a multiplayer that received several addons FOR FREE.

The witcher 3 on contrast is one of the cheapest high scale games ever made and it costed 60 dollars, like GTAV

Since when do companies fucking charge you more because of VA, seriously what the fuck man.

>They shouldn't have graphics unless they're gonna help the game. At some point you have to stop trying to be "high definition" and "realistic" and put some of that time and effort into the gameplay.

Did your retarded ass skipped the part where I clarified "regardless of style" meaning that wether games were realistic or cartoon-like?

They still have to look good. Oh and btw you fucking dumbass: Graphics totally affect gameplay. The level of gameplay that has been shown would be literally impossible with 8 bit graphics.

But of course this is all bait.

And Mario has always been a man, what's your point? just in case you missed my point is that Nintendo isnt giving in to the demands of a bunch of people that dont even play videogames.

And if you say that female gamers want a female link to replace the pretty boy they love so much i swear i'll have the greatest laugh of my life.

how can you be in denial this hard?
the game would have already been released if it wasn't pushed back to the NX

this IS the final cut of the game and this IS the quality you'll get from it when its released, don't delude yourself otherwise

When the whole controversy thing happened they gave shitty reasons for the male protagonist like "If we made Link a female we thought that would mess with the balance of the Triforce." which doesn't even begin to make any sense.

If they just directly said "Link has always been male and we have no intention on changing that" it would have been fine since they're sticking to their guns. The other reason is just trying to save face and poorly.

because lack of voice acting isn't a sign of superiority, only limitation.

games used to do it because they didn't have the hardware necessary of producing voices, couldn't fit the voices into the game for storage reasons, or because devs didn't want to hire anyone either due to time or money reasons.

nintendo stuck with it because it's part of their peter pan never gonna grow up gimmick. what games did start to realize that nobody actually falls for the "we make protagonists silent/blank slates so u can imagine yourself as the character" bullshit line they used to feed us in the 90s-early 00s just used sped up voices backwards or some other shit to make the characters sound cutesy or whatever.

now, in typical nintendo being 10 years behind the curve fashion, they realize that lame voices crap doesn't cut it outside of animal crossing and its time to give games proper story telling and voice work.

Wow, both of those top two images sure look really different for showing the exact same scene! It's almost as if one or both of them were doctored to make the E3 2014 version look better to facilitate the use of the image for shitposting!

>MGS has received universal acclaim and its pretty fucking memorable
Just like Uncharted? Just like TLOU? Just like Gone Home? "The Citizen Kane of Video games". "The best experience ever!" "you'll be disappointed with life once you taste the divine nectar of Nathan Drake's hot sweaty cutscenes!" Acclaim means nothing to me.

>They all have memorable stories that are made even more memorable because of the fucking amazing VA
They're memorable for making me mute the games just to play them. That's for sure.

>GTA V is one of the most expensive games ever made, if not the most expensive, and it costed 60 dollars
Rockstar is an okay developer, so this was a shocking thing even from them. Have you forgotten about more greedy developers, like Blizzard and how they treated Starcraft 2? (180 dollars for a game that has the length of the original Starcraft, AND DLC.) All so they could have pretty fancy cutscenes with voice acting. Wasn't worth it, that's for sure.

>Did your retarded ass skipped the part where I clarified "regardless of style" meaning that wether games were realistic or cartoon-like?
Doesn't matter. Your game stops being good when you spend so much time on graphics and having fancy CGI special effects. Look at Final Fantasy XV if you don't believe me. All that time put into graphics, and the combat is basically quick time events glued together lazily.

>Graphics totally affect gameplay. The level of gameplay that has been shown would be literally impossible with 8 bit graphics.
Nonsense. Dwarf Fortress alone puts this game, and most modern games to shame, at least in the open world aspect.

>Still no female link

>because lack of voice acting isn't a sign of superiority, only limitation.
And did you ever consider that this was a good thing? No voice acting = several million dollars shaved off of your budget = more time and money put into gameplay optimization = easier time localizing the game since you don't need to hire a hundred different VAs per country.

Who cares ether way? I'm just happy Link shall remain Link and Nintendo doesn't give two shits about what twitter crybabys say.

Because the answer they gave DID care about what those people you're complaining about thought. If you say "We're making the game our way" then you're acting like you described, not caring what other people think. Making up excuses like they did is saying "Ohh we'd like to make a female Link but it's just not possible, don't be mad at us".
One is a statement from a position of power, the other is a statement trying to shift blame so that people aren't mad at them.

Extend it out. If they put their foot down and say they just didn't want to make a female Link, then that's what you get. If you make an excuse like some bullshit about the triforce being out of balance then you have to listen to those people argue back the obvious flaws in that argument. Because it comes from a position of 'Nintendo wants a female Link but don't know how' so those people have reason to constantly suggest solutions to that 'problem'.

Gone home was ONLY acclaimed by people who dont even play video games. If you go to a fucking video game convention, or just ask in a board of video game fans like this one, a fuckload of people (a majority of about 90%) will come up and say that MGS and MP are 2 of the best franchises ever made.

"the entire world is telling me these games are great and memorable but I dont think so so it must be false!" thats just you having a shit opinion. I dont like games like fire emblem or SMT but I dont deny that they have hugefanbases which love every installment.

And the point wasnt that GTA V was normal because of free dlc, its that its a game with VA which fucking costed 60 dollars despite having a budget of over 200 millions dollars. The same price for a game with 30 millions dollar budget. VA doesnt inflates the price you fucking dumbass.

>The guys working at the graphics are definitely the same working for the gameplay and story so they shouldnt focus on that!

NO YOU FUCKING DUMBASS THEY'RE DIFFERENT TEAMS THEIR WORK HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER.

And dwarf fortress simply has many possibilities but none of the actions are complex or require constant player input.- They require minimum input and are mostly automated. I dont remember dwarf fortress having 100% manual combat. Several games outperform dwarf fortress in every individual feature it has.

You literally cannot make complex GAMES with bad graphics, since graphics are how you fucking represent a game.

DO NOT EVEN BOTHER ANSWERING TO THIS.

This person is a CONFIRMED troll, do.not.answer

Hylia literally only wanted Link's Dick and nothing else.