Graviton Surge belongs in God tier IMO. I love Zarya, but her ult is easy as piss to counter by a ton of heroes.
Rein can charge out of it, Reaper can Wraith form out, Tracer can E out, etc.
>Not Zarya bubbling your ulting Pharah who's firing into your graviton surge
Leo Cooper
>the only way for a ulti to be good is to wombo combo
Kayden Ortiz
This
justice is literally the worst ult in the game bar none
You're just proving it's bad by saying it can only be used with a zarya
Cameron Gomez
Blizzard is borderline elder god tier. Can turn a whole game like no other
Luis Perez
>Not Zarya bubbling your ulting Pharah >implying casuals will ever think to do this during regular gameplay
Ethan Perry
>You're proving it's bad by saying it can only be used I never said only, there's a lot of other abilities that let it do a great deal of effect. That said, it's a fucking team game. Pharah's ult is high risk but high reward, and if you can work out the kinks to it with your lineup then you'll do well.
Not necessarily, it just means it has better synergy.
Hanzo ult is good, but a Pharah ult with it just makes it 100x better. Same with a Reaper ulting after a Earthshatter.
Gavin Butler
Learn to use the ult properly, use it to combo with other ults, when flanking, when the enemy team is distracted. Also don't just save barrage for big team kills, use it to take out 2 or 3 enemies at once if necessary, such as tanks. Obviously if you use your ult when you're in front of people or they have their attention on you you're gonna get shit on. You gotta use at a time where you can get people by surprise and take them out quickly.
Brody Myers
>Rip-tire in low git gud
Hunter Evans
>there's a lot of other abilities that let it work sometimes if you aren't getting shot maybe And almost any other destructive ult would be better in either situation.
Ryder Myers
rocket barrage is great if you know what you're doing
you two are just eejits
Aaron Gomez
Because a character pick in your lineup is only as good as their ult, and there's no such things as counters.
Again, Pharah's ult isn't the best by a mile because it's extremely risky. But offsetting the disadvantages of it allows your team to make better use of it.
James Sullivan
It's not great if you know what you're doing
it's great if the enemy team is too incompetent to shoot you, and at that point you could just be using any other ult.
face it, justice is slow, low damage and extreme vulnerability. I'd rather just not even use the ult most games in favor of just rocketing
Gavin Perez
What kind of shitty, cowardly Reinhardt would charge out of it instead of shielding his teammates for as long as he can?
Jonathan Robinson
it's great for killing tanks so I don't care what you think
Jackson Fisher
I realised recently why this game is so casualized: it was so bliz could sell it on consoles.
By limiting the number of abilities (hence buttons) and things on screen, this game is playable by the average console tard.
They literally made LoL easier for consoles as an FPS. Bravo blizzard. Glad I only spent £30 on this game, yuck
John Anderson
It's probably not possible for a female to have shoulders and biceps that large.
Eli King
It's also not great for killing tanks because any competent tank will be standing near the damage classes who will kill you before you finish the first word.
Are you playing on console?
Jaxson Rivera
good thing it's a video game and it doesn't have to be realistic whatsoever
William Martinez
On KOTH Primal rage should be high-god tier
I've gotten so many POTG on KOTH by just knocking suckers off the cliff and if its not a cliff area, it really keeps the enemy off the point.
Nicholas Butler
Because if the Zarya or the team is standing in a group and there's a wall, he can do a better job saving his team by pinning?
Like shield only blocks so much of an angle. Also, the Zarya can just grenade at their feet and force the Rein to turn the shield down, which just means everyone's eating everything facing forward.
Angel Foster
I'm in the 57 range and this happens alot. Although, I usually position myself in such a way to make the shield not matter anyways. people are still pretty stupid in this bracket.
Brayden Martinez
Nice bait
Also primal rage is fucking useless. Chimpston as a character is fucking useless really, unless there's like 3 of him.
John Gutierrez
>Barrage >High Tier
I'm insulted. Barrage is one of the easiest ults to shoot down.
Aiden Butler
A rip tire in good hands is a very good ult. Sure, if you're playing as an idiot junkrat who is obvious about where he's having it come from and doesn't attempt jukes it's shit, but if you know what you're doing it's a guaranteed mercy kill.
Aiden Green
I played a match yesterday where the enemy winston kept going primal rage just as I got whole hog charged up
So I just held him against the ceiling until his ult ran out and he died. Every time.
Brandon Wood
>Juke >Something that makes that much god damn noise with so little HP
Ian Morgan
I don't think it's OP but it is essentially a superior Dva Ult. >It forces enemy out of point >Doesn't kill the caster >(Essentially) kills all enemies in range >Isn't blocked by a stray trash can
Kevin Miller
NERF THIS
Cooper Thomas
>Not killing the engine by driving it into a wall for a few seconds, then quickly rounding a corner or dropping off a ledge
It's easy to lull a team into a false sense of security.
Jonathan Hughes
>Primal Rage >Useless
It gives him a 1000 HP boost and crazy knockback.
He only sucks if you run in the middle of the field like an idiot and try to kill a Roadhog or Reinhardt. Seiously. Dont try to fight another tank or close assault(Reaper) as winston. He's meant to take out snipers, healers, and light attackers like mcCree and maybe pharah. And he does his job damn well.
Anthony Cox
Is there any practical way to use NERF THIS? It's got such a long set-off and the giant warning sign mixed with DVa's piercing scream makes it almost impossible to actually get caught in it.
Owen Hernandez
Use it with Graviton Surge or use it to clear enemies off the point.
Jonathan Bailey
yes. zarya ult or just to clear points. they need to make it so it's possible for her to farm it out every 25 seconds or so.
Adrian Martin
Whole Hog is low tier.
Its a big fat "HEY EVERYONE SHOOT AT ME" fireworks display.
Henry King
It's zoning. Drop it on the point for a free cap.
Brayden Gray
can't you use the fucking characters names
Connor Stewart
>mfw whole hogging with a zarya shield and a pocket mercy
I'M A ONE MAN APOCALYPSE
Juan Torres
Can't you play for more than an hour.
Jordan Price
>Primal rage that low If you trap people in corners there is almost no way they will get out, Winston is also the best hero in the game. >Everyone will hunt him down and forget about the cart it's so great.
Hunter Williams
>Pharahs ult is her staying still Jeez, that be really retarded if her character was based on being able to move around a lot.
Dominic Lewis
Ok I'm not not done bitch. Primal rage is completely useless. It can, emphasis CAN do two things: a)knock fuckers off points b)knock fuckers off cliffs And before I debunk these while you can trap someone in a corner and just kill them, the low DPS makes this a stupid use for an ult. Now. a)knocking fuckers off points is a legit start. If you're defending and one prick turns upto contest, then you can overpower them. But this is NOT what an ult should do. This is not a game winning manoeuvre, it's just finalising other efforts. b)people who getting knocked off cliffs to a lucio or Pharah boop are understandable. You have no idea when it'll come, and both can be quite mobile. But you HEAR a chimp ult, and hence know to avoid cliffs. The fucker is huge as well, hard to miss
Plus, chimpston has SO many counters. You mentioned a hog ult. here's some more. Lucio/Pharah boop Trap Simply spreading out Lucio/zen ult Zarya ult Frozen (ult or m1) Many, many mode
And FINALLY: Chimp ult does no damage. Unlike Zaryas Ult which allows your team to seal damage for you, the chump ult knocks enemies around making it HARDER for teammates to hit them.
>implying I can tell half of those names do you really expect me to hold f1 for every fucking character
Brayden Ward
>so many counters >things that can knock him off >when he jump is on a 2 second cool down Yea sure good counter.
Kevin Sanders
I expected you to not be a retard but there goes that I guess.
Andrew Perez
Put Barrage, Dragonstrike and Pulse Bomb in Low, Tactical Visor in High and Infra-Sight in Mid then you got yourself a deal senpai.
Ethan Morales
Fuck off with your weebshit, faggot.
Logan Wood
On consoles where nobody can aim, Primal Rage can be useful for repeatedly leaping up into the air and buying time for your team to get to you while doing a littte damage.
Dylan Johnson
>that rein one where he taunts and the team gets revived holy fuck dude that one is legit good.
Isaiah Morales
move tactical visor up to high tier its perfect for flanking and preventing a push
Julian Mitchell
>expecting someone on Sup Forums to not be retarded. fuck off just put in parentheses the characters or something idfk
Ian Hernandez
Overwatch is more weeb than Jojo.
Logan Davis
Ok he's jumped back. Now what. It's literally nothing: the ult.
I will not listen to any idiot who try's to convince me chimpston is a viable character. He's fucking useless at everything apart from picking off snipers, which like 3 other heroes do just as well and more.
Matthew Anderson
Ok this is an argument I've not considered, and accept with what little grace I have left.
Hudson Ward
Easy to destroy. Play as Widow if you don't believe it belongs in shit tier.
Dominic Williams
I will tell you what he's good at, being a distraction, people will constantly zone you out if you're behind their lines which can really be used to your team's advantage he also has the survivability to do so.
Daniel Bailey
Only good part in that video. One of the best things I've seen in a while
Jayden Phillips
I hate the way Tracer's Pulse Bomb comes out. It's not even like she throws it, it just falls out of her hand at her feet.
Christian Gonzalez
Even when killed mid sentence most rocket barrages end up killing one or two people when used close to the ground. It also charges quite fast.
Ethan Powell
agreed, it doesnt need to be a full on projectile but just a bit more of a toss would make it a lot less frustrating to use
John Flores
>I will not listen to any idiot who try's to convince me chimpston is a viable character because I suck with him
Carter Martinez
>Can be countered by any hero >Loud ass scream announcing "HEY GUYS I'M GONNA DO MY ULT OKAY GET READY" >Sound continues warning enemies that the ult is close I love Hunkrat but if the enemy team has a Torb or Symmetra then it becomes almost useless. There's a reason the charge is so fast.
Ryan Cook
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Oliver Scott
>Winstons bad because I'm bad at using him!
Dude I think you just suck shit as Winston. His ult maxes his HP to 1000 so if he has like 50 it's a lifesaver. His gun can fuck up any class that isnt a tank or reaper. His sheild is extremely useful for covering torjorn or bastion and also can be used in 1v1 for coverage. His ult is used for crowd control and not for damaging. Basically beat the shit out of everyone so they can't get on point while your team can focus on moving/defending the point.
Stop trying to 1v1 a roadhog and git good
Kevin Lewis
Jesus christ sauce
Kayden Howard
No, because Dva is the only weebshit character and only weeaboo whyfoo faggots touch her. Anyone with half a brain (IE not weeaboo) doesn't pick her.
Leo Lopez
it should go slightly more distance and should come out of your hand but there should be a 1 second throw time that you can dodge and react to. also, it's stupid that you can't see when people have ults. you can PREDICT most peoples ult because it's very obvious when they use it but tracers just isn't that way.
Benjamin Gutierrez
A lot of Ults work best that way, it's a team based game.
Aaron Peterson
any bestiality porn of that muscle bitch yet?
Cooper Martinez
I'm so glad that I got that D.Va achievement early on before everyone learned how easy it is to line of sight that explosion.
They really need to fucking fix that.
Jack White
>D.va >Genji >Hanzo
Daniel Phillips
resurrection needs its own tier, it's by and far away the best ability in the game
Daniel Hill
You also forgot:
>No gigantic visual indicator when it's happening
You would think Mei's tiny little robot would need one compared to the gigantic sparking, flashing mech.
Logan Morris
Now that was a worthy clip, mod the of compilations were cringy.
Ayden Flores
Know who else is a distraction? >Dva, who can contest points better than chimp and SOMEHOW has a more viable ult >tracer, who is a much better DPS hero, with a better ult >Genji, who can also get PotG team kill ults occasionally
All chimpston has on these 3 is his shield, or his health.
I've played like 69 hours which isn't a tonne, but to date I've never seen a PotG chimp or left a game thinking "their Winston was really good". I don't know, maybe it's just sample bias.
Joshua Sanchez
Switch rip tire and primal rage around and then I pretty much agree
Jayden Sanders
These were all shit.
Sebastian Taylor
Burn in hell you dirty mongrel :>
Jaxson Martinez
love me some graviton surge
Austin Bell
See the last sentences of I also suck as widow and symmetra but I've had my ass whipped by then enough times for me to admit they're good classes. Is there like a YouTuber who plays good Winston? Without trying to be patronising I would like to see the best the chimp has to offer.
Michael Martinez
>if you do a specific thing and catch the enemy off guard you might kill them
What a great ult.
Hudson Anderson
Did you ever consider that it's not about killing them?
Nathan Perez
The Rhein taunting one and the one where zen got hooked had me a chuckle.
Josiah Watson
I've got two teamkills in ranked with it, it just needs to be synchronized with Zarya or Reinhardt ult.
Jacob Green
>Hanzo too late with his ult haha get fucked on Hanzo your mummy never loved you!!
Luke Johnson
Or just, blind fuckers If you're a full health Pharah, unless you hook/stun her there's little you can do to stop the rain
Mid-fight, from nowhere, it can still destroy
Jace Cook
Which is why it's a pretty shitty ult.
Joshua Jackson
You're a shitty player.
Jeremiah Ward
>it needs to be used with another ult to be good
And that makes not good. Not bad but just average.
Joshua Ramirez
>waaah this ult is shit because i don't get a sextuple kill when i use it >i have to coordinate with teammates in this team game for my ult to be used effectively? it's shit!
fucking casuals. please stay in quick play.
Sebastian Clark
>People think primal rage and barrage are bad ultimates, indeed two of the worst in the entire game
I'll remember this next time one of you fucks complains about a teammate.
Elijah Lee
>tfw you didn't get potg but your ult is still crucial to potg >tfw people in chat say this and praise you It's a warm, fuzzy feel.
Also I'm a game mainly based about killing cunts getting s sextuple kill is an admirable aim for an ult. or as a support or tank, preventing a sextuple kill.
Lucas Cruz
>this ult can be used by itself to get 4-5 kills or comboed for a team kill >this ult can't be used by itself but can be comboed for a team kill >they are the same
okay
Asher Ramirez
I think Tactical Visor is under-rated. The DPS is really high and you more flexibility to move around and choose targets. Any ult where I routinely average 3 kills per is pretty good to me.
Gabriel Clark
shitter
Andrew Price
>Ready to go WHOLE HOG >Tfw the enemy team follows you into a small room
Ian White
nice rebuttal
Landon Rodriguez
what's the best gold weapon? Which one are you getting?