Can a 30 year old enjoy games? Are any games actually made for intelligent grown ups?

Can a 30 year old enjoy games? Are any games actually made for intelligent grown ups?
I cant seem to enjoy any games except grand strategy once in a while(will probably try Stellaris in about two years after they actually finish it).
Most games just feel tedious as hell and always have some contrived goals and win conditions.
Or have FPS hella fuck*n epic gameplay.
This is partially why I like grand strategy games and games like civ these days.
They are long enough so I can feel as if im in a properly simulated game world that can just keep going indefinitely.

I wish Dwarf fortress was designed by a proper team and was balanced out and updated for multi core systems..
Why are there no games with PROPERLY COMPLEX simulations with no retarded end game goals and a shit ton of emergent gameplay(but not some fucking lego variant like minecraft)?

Plenty of games for adults. It's just you who chose to play games for children.

I'm 33 and you're a fucking moron.

if you were really mature you wouldn't be asking a bunch of 16 year olds who just discovered the concept of irony for suggestions

No, im not gonna play some autistic flight simulator. I want comples simulation but intuitive easy to learn controls.
Not a game where i have to memorize instructions for hours before i can even start playing. I have a job, I dont need another one.

Im not a moron, on the contrary, i am an intelligent person who cant find any games actually made for intelligent people as oppose to 30 year old manchildren.

You're not intelligent, read your post back carefully and you'll find that you're an adult acting like an entitled child.

The average gamer is like 35.

Perhaps it is you that needs to grow up, user.

>I want games for intelligent grown ups
>I don't want to learn
>Complex games are autistic

I'm 58 and I enjoy games.

Just finished Witcher 3 and loved it. Have to play on easy though. Just not good enough.

>29
>Do the 9 to 5
>Don't get very far into complicated games because I don't have the time to learn everything
>Don't get very far into simple games because I get bored
>Keep playing Total War because it's familiar

It's like I'm in that movie Ground Hog Day, only I'm not Bill Murray and there's nothing I can do to bang that girl.

29 lvl here
I don't play anything new and popular like overwatch for example, it's a nice game for sure but mostly for kids and horny teenagers
same goes for most AAA games but i do enjoy crpg tittles like pillars of eternity or underrail very much and i'm even kinda hyped for new torment and tyranny
also souls games, they're just so good and fun to play especially the first one, pure gameplay experience
I think most of us older guys can still enjoy video games but only the best or the most unique ones plus games from our favourite genres
I still love homm 3 and i'm playing it right now having fun
so yes OP, 30 years old guys can still enjoy video games just like we can still enjoy a good book or a movie, but don't expect be be happy when playing some typical AAA trash like overwatch and other braindead murder simulators like skyrim or fallout 4 designated for teens in mind
check out the older games from your favourite genres, make a list of games that seem interesting to you and enjoy other things besides gaming

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Please explain that capture.

31, I'm pretty sure adults who claim they never lost the drive for vidya have played like a solid 10% of the games of people the same age that lost the drive before hitting 30. That's the key factor, burnout. You would know if you spoke with most well adjusted adults who still play vidya past 30.

nope

from GS you'll move on to video pinball and then finally Mah-Jong

it's over

33 here. I play whatever the fuck I can between changing nappies and bottle feeds. Being a Dad means y barely get time for a BF4 round let alone a good rpg.

I'm 30; I turn 31 in September.

Winter is coming.

These days I enjoy games that are plot heavy, have a interesting story-line or are thought provoking.

SOMA
Amnesia
Ether One
Dear Esther
Ethan Carter

I play FPS games for the campaign if it looks interesting like MW2, Black Ops, Titanfall 2, Battlefield 3 but don't bother with the multiplayer.

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Stop playing video games if you don't have plenty of time

I turned 35 last month. I am playing games a lot more now, I am playing a lot of these cheap anime-themed visual novels on steam... I can't stop it. I don't even watch anime, I'm not much of a neckbeard at all. This is all new to me. I've been on Sup Forums since 2007 and throughout the years here, I always considered myself one of the older (in terms of age) posters who were probably more adjusted than the average Sup Forumsirgin. Been here a while, never got into anime, don't fap to 2D, those things etc.

Games I enjoyed discussing on Sup Forums throughout the years were always things like Deus Ex, Thief, System Shock.. you know, those circa 00 games that if you've played one, you've probably played most that I just listed, and there are other titles that can be bundled there.

I really don't know what it is, I grow older, I feel more educated, I'm more successful than ever, but I can't stop playing these cheesy, cheap, crude anime looking games. I just stare at these girls with huge eyes and big smiles all day, and I smile back. I think it's childish and I think that's why I like it.

Who cares if you are intelligent or not? Just play vidya that is fun.

I'm 31, and I play whenever I can. Which is quite a lot, since my job's piss-easy.

I've never seen anything wrong with playing on easy, especially for story heavy games.

>41
>still playing video games
>never married or have kids
>perusing career that allows plenty of free time in early stages

Generation Y is full of pussies though. FFS at least you aren't smoking crack.

>30 years old
>STILL cant admit/realize games are nothing more than dumb time killers

Play Journey or Amnesia in a room by yourself with the lights off. Let yourself become immersed in the experience the game creates and you'll find that you don't need a game to feed your ego to get enjoyment from it.

those some ugly ass orbits famalam

Hey OP I'm 29 and I play games like Dark souls, DMC, preordered, Kof14, FF15 and TLG. Am I manchild?

You're either living or dying.

Once you hit your half-life, senpai.

I go to college 40 hours each week and still find the time to play Arma, Witcher 3, Subnautica, and Elite, all while writing music and making straight As.

Are 9 to 5 jobs that draining?

>STILL cant admit/realize games are nothing more than dumb time killers
same goes for movies right? oh wait, movies are even more dump time killers because they're passive experiences

>having kids
>spreading the disease of life

>FF15
>DMC
>Am I manchild?
yes, who cares tho

Your half-life could be at 15 years old and you just don't know it yet.

>buy AAA shit made for kids.
>Complain all games are for kids.

Panzer corps is a wargame for kids though.

>Are 9 to 5 jobs that draining?
Its not that they're draining, but if work sucks or you don't like your job/the people etc it makes you really want to enjoy time not spent at work. Video games tend not to accomplish this since most single player ones are simplistic and if you're old you've witnessed them get simpler and simpler, with multiplayer titles the draw is often the camaraderie but many multiplayer gamers are subhuman morons so its very unfulfilling if its your only outlet.

Generally speaking most people just need other hobbies.

This sounds very elitist, there are video games for everyone and your comment is non-constructive. By saying things like this, you are inadvertently hurting the gaming community.

Flight Sims are so fucking boring, I genuinely don't see the point unless you're actually going to go fly a plane, which, unlike it's electronic counterpart is actually enjoyable. Autistic fag.

"straight As" with cheating ofc

>Stellaris

Alright OP lemme ruin this game for you right here.

Stellaris will never be good because the combat is shit, (like all GS games). Stellaris is basically a casualized Star Ruler clone with a Paradox twist. It doesn't do space 4x as good as space 4x games, and it doesn't do Grand Strategy or empire management as well as other Grand Strategy games. Stellaris merges the genres while dilluting what makes them great. About the only thing it does well is early game exploration, simple diplomacy, and ayy lmao genocide.

There now you don't need to wait 2 years for a game that will leave you with an unsatisfied and overall disappointed felling.

I'm 23 and you're scaring me.

Can one grow tired of stealth/hack n slash games?

28 here, still at uni (changing paths a little late, better finish now anyways). I'm just glad to see other of the same age around here.

As for games, I usually go for either interesting single palyer like SOMA, the Void, etc. or "fun with friends" type of games like E.Y.E and even Overwatch right now (which pretty much work for now since we can easily form a full group but I expect it to drop in popularity soon enough, in my group anyways).

Why is it only vidya people treat like this

Is it wrong for a 30 year old to like movies or books?

>Is it wrong for a 30 year old to like movies or books?
yes, you should know how to make a table and piss in public
no fun allowed

>i am an intelligent person
>can't even spell can't right
>thinks flight sims are hard to learn

if you want to do something complex then put it to good use IRL instead of wasting time playing stupid fucking games

Not necessarily, OP is just trying particularly hard to signal that he's 'mature' by disliking certain types of games. I'm 28 and still enjoy just about everything I used to enjoy.

With the responses you've given, it's not hard to see why you can't find any games to play and why you THINK you are too old/intelligent for them.

I think you maybe DO need to leave this hobby or just kinda drift into the sea of casuals.

any other yt gaming related channels for older guys besides game sack?

Im 31, still love games. Eat shit.

Joseph Anderson maybe?

It's like matthewmatosis for adults.

Nothing wrong with that. Only insecure people think otherwise.

Film is recognized as a form of artistic expression the world over, with entire, well respected colleges dedicated to its craft. Can you say the same about your precious vidya?

In the end cancer will get us.

It's an aging disease, it can never be cured.

Simply delayed.

Because there are a number of culturally celebrated authors and directors, but there are no culturally celebrated game designers.

Video games are a type of media still in its infancy. It will continue to be regarded as such until culturally significant works arise from the medium, and that'll take some time.

Films is a collaboration of directors, producers, graphics, costumes, etc.

Sometimes they tell a story, sometimes they don't.

How is vidya any different?

>Film is recognized as a form of artistic expression the world over, with entire, well respected colleges dedicated to its craft.
that doesn't really change the fact that the're passive experiences that do nothing for you unlike books and video games

play some nostalgia games
or just laid back games like animal crossing or harvest moon

How is a book not a passive experience?

retard

It's not like most people read those celebrated works. You're more likely to find people reading twilight or watching independence day 2 and the latest HBO trash.

>made for intelligent grown ups

Film reaches a higher level of artistic integrity, and is seen as higher "culture" than video games. Film has masterpieces which are highly moving and artistic experiences. When has a video game ever produced something that commands as much respect as Casablanca or Citizen Kane?

I just feel like no entry in the history of video games has had as much cultural significance as examples from cinema or literature have, so thats why its false equivalence to compare the two.

I really don't know that fucking much about cinema, so if I seem like I'm talking out of my ass, I am.

Go on

>Are any games actually made for intelligent grown ups?


How does that concern you?

You read at your own pace
You interpret words differently as other people, when a particular scene is happening in your head you know you're probably the only one on earth to "see it" like that.

Appreciation of those classic movies increased as time passed. They weren't art overnight.

Socrates is turning in his grave right now.

I'm 33 and I'm having a great time playing pic related vidya. And yes there are complex situations. Some will make you cry or cause you pain or literal bleeding if you're not careful.

You have also just described a movie. What you see in a scene is individual to your own interpretation.


A better question is may be "What input do you provide to a book or a movie, compared to the kind of input you provide to a video game?"

Reading requires effort. Aside from actually reading and comprehending the words of the book itself (which may include many words you've never heard of and have to look up on your own), you have to interpret the message the author may be trying to convey, apply an interpretation to the events, imagine how the characters and settings are interacting, and catch details of symbolism that might be missed on the first read. Technically, reading is a creative act.

Well not really since you can't watch a movie at your own pace, unlike a book

>Film reaches a higher level of artistic integrity, and is seen as higher "culture" than video games.
just because games are still young compared to movies and the older generations can't relate to video games

Again, you've perfectly described the movie watching experience.

You may come across words that you're unfamiliar and have to look up. You have to interpret the message the director is trying to convey through the film, and you may catch details and symbolism that was missed on the first watch through.

Arrested Development and 30 Rock are both good examples of the symbolism, especially foreshadowing, that you gain awareness of on your second watch-through.

you do not use your imagination when watching a movie, at least not on the same level when reading books
movies are good for underestimated insecure average joes who will watch kubrick shit just to feel better and special about themselfs

You can't pause, rewind, and play it in slow motion? Cause you could the last time I checked senpai

Thats true. And its exciting to think that video games of today will be much more respected ten or twenty years from now. But what games would even be considered the "Citizen Kane"'s of our time? Actual fucking art that future, pretentious video-game design students will study in textbooks? All I can think of is Shadow of the Colossus.

EVE online basically

>all these people shit talking flight sims with hurr it's TOO complex of an autism simulator, if i wanted a second job i'd just learn how to fly a REAL plane.
>they don't know about the holy grail that is ww1/ww2/pre-vietnam combat flight sims, planes that people will literally NEVER EVER fly into combat against eachother again
>a stick, throttle, flaps, radiator controls, fuel mixture, landing gear, and guns which are controls that you could easily fit onto a modern gamepad with plenty of room to spare are too complex for them

Just insulting one culturally recognized medium of artistic expression doesn't add value to any other.

Video games still need to mature as an artistic medium, though for those who are paying attention you can find culturally relevant works that already exist like the aforementioned Journey and Amnesia. They're experiences not unlike a great fantasy novel or an suspenseful horror film.

You sound like a jaded idiot.

So no. All the games for jaded idiots came out before 1998.

33 here, still enjoy dumbass shooters, brawlers and platformers as much as ever. Not sure what your problem is.

Can you please do something else with your life

>Are 9 to 5 jobs that draining?
Most jobs actually are.
Wake up, groom, possible eat, get ready, commute, get there (might of had to of left early) work, commute, probably groom again depending on work, eat, did you have to take your work home with you or study? sleep, repeat.

The movie is still providing all the scenery for you, the characterization of the characters mannerisms, even how their voices sound. Everything you would have to imagine yourself is instead presented right for you on the screen, while when reading, youre the director of the little play going on in your head. Not to mention that the actual progress of the book doesn't happen unless you read the words, process them, and make it happen yourself. Reading is something that takes far more energy and effort than watching a movie or TV show, and is therefore not a passive process.

There's nothing wrong with movies. You're a massive faggot.

You spend more waking hours at a 9-5 job than you do at home or with your family.

>But what games would even be considered the "Citizen Kane"'s of our time?
when they become photorealistic choose your own path games and accessible enough for your typical summer blockbuster movie enthusiasts

Try that in a movie theater.

Is trust any good?

I'm gonna need more alcohol for this....

But fantasy and horror aren't artistically valid genres.

>Just insulting one culturally recognized medium of artistic expression doesn't add value to any other.
those are just facts
>Video games still need to mature as an artistic medium
like i said, video games are still young
case closed
I don't care about mr special little snowflake movie taste man
just posting facts, video games are better for your brain than movies

>spherecuck propaganda

We can draw a parallel to what you described with an author's reading of a book or passage at a book store or presentation.

You do realize that watching a movie in a theater is not the ONLY way in which a film can be experienced I'm sure.

I'm pushing 40, and I love games as much as I did when I was 5. I may take issue with the way the industry has gone, and don't like a lot of more recent tropes, but it doesn't really hamper the fun I have gaming as a whole.

Then again, I'm also a grandfather who loves anime and high school girls, and managed to retire off of the dotcom bubble 16 years ago, so ymmv.

Why not? They use the same medium of expression. Surely if they impact they have on our culture were significant enough they would be considered artistically relevant and even culturally important.

Artistic relevance and cultural significance of course being the measure by which we decide if something is both 'important' and 'grown up'

Everyone else pretty much put you in your place

But my god I am turning 30 in a little over a month's time and can say safely that I am more comfortable in who I am knowing that I am not you