Putting aside the original 2D Fallout games, is Fallout 3 the best 3D game in the series?
I'm wondering if I should start playing the series with 3 or 4, and I've seen people shit a lot on 4 while I've heard very good things about 3.
Putting aside the original 2D Fallout games, is Fallout 3 the best 3D game in the series?
I'm wondering if I should start playing the series with 3 or 4, and I've seen people shit a lot on 4 while I've heard very good things about 3.
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3 is trash but not as bad as 4
The people who praise 3 are the people who never played a Fallout game before it, much the same way with FF7 praisers and Human Revolution players.
>inb4 "i only want to play the main games!"
What's wrong with Human Revolution?
>Deus Ex
>Conspiracy Theories: The Game
>Human Revolution
>Halfbaked Transhumanism Debate: The Game
I enjoyed New Vegas, more than any Bethesda game actually.
I do however wish the faction quests were as atmospheric as skyrim's "guild" quests. Helping the boomers is not nearly as satisfying as helping the thieves/dark brotherhood.
>skyrim
meant oblivion, but skyrim applies too I guess
Dont listen to these ass jews, never touch new vegas, play 3 and then 4. Obsidian gamers are elitist cancer.
I will never buy your games todd
I don't see the problem here.
NV faction quests were alright.
Play NV
Human Revolution was relatively well-received by fans of the original when it released, mostly because it was expected to be far worse. Not having as much fun with conspiracies isn't even the biggest flaw though. Anybody who think it's better than the original is a retard though.
...
I think what he means is that the later drifted too far from the original and the theme of the game is fucking stupid
Go ahead. Pull it. I know you won't YOU FUCKING PUSSY
New Vegas
vegas has the best story so if thats what youre interested in start there. 4 has better combat and crafting but the story is shit
People with taste.
nothing. it's a very good game.
WHY THE FUCK NOT
They just don't work.
You know why.
YOU FUCKING MC NIGGER KEKOLD FAGFUCKER JEW MC DICK IN ASS, AFTER HOW MUCH I GAVE TO YOUR COMPANY HOW DARE YOU. I GAVE YOU A FUCKING ENGINE!!!
IT ALWAYS WORKS
And we gave you an IP to run into the ground.
>Elder Scrolls Anthology disks are all DRM free except for Skyrim
>Fallout Anthology disks only work with Steam
Why, Todd?
I'd like to hear Todd Howard sing a song and put it in game. Four times.
SAWYER YOU THICKENING BALLSACK, YOU WILL PAY FOR THIS
Because...
Not this time. I can't climb any mountains in 3 or 4. I can climb two in NB
Looks like we had to cut Todd's life short.
Whats wrong with steam?
oh nothing?
moving on
Sawyerposting > Toddposting
if you don't really care too much about immersion and a deep story, and want a game with a world just to explore, then go fallout 3. The capital wasteland has more mysterious, dead vibe. Most of the locations have little backstory, or anything really- I was constantly asking myself, "why is this here?" You're gonna have a blast discovering stuff.
If you want the opposite, then go NV. The Mojave is alive, everything has a purpose, the game's story and factions are very well done. I thought the DLC story was incredible.
Fallout 3 DLC is shit except for Point Lookout. All really short and lame. Pitt was good story wise, but thats really it.
New Vegas DLC is great story wise but meh gameplay. Old World Blues is amazing. I thought Lonesome road was solid, but way too short.
Fallout 3 gets a lot of shit, but still a solid game. New Vegas was rushed, but well made.
If you're on PC, get both immediately. Mods make these game absolutely incredible.
You can pick up both will full DLC for what, 20 each? Go for it.
>if you don't really care too much about immersion and a deep story, and want a game with a world just to explore, then go fallout 3.
This is why everyone hates you people
The best 3d game in series is NV by a longshot. F3 is ok, if you like bethesda's open worlds.
Nigga you clueless, F2 is my absolute goat followed maybe only by planescape, and yet I found F3 quite enjoyable. If you ignore the "fallout" in title that is.
Human Revolution is good. Not great, but good.
>New Vegas was rushed, but well made.
>well made
>game is 80% bugs
You can blame Bethesda for the shit engine.
>seriously buggy game
>84 Metacritic
Yep, seems about right
>If you ignore the "fallout" in title that is.
And that's my point. If it weren't titled Fallout, it would have been a fine game with no expectations. Instead, they stapled an old franchise name on it purely because it was marketable without bothering for it to make any sense in the canon.
New Vegas is way better. I think you know that though and you just want those sweet sweet (you)s.
Nothing, it's just faggots who want people to really know they played the original Dues ex...Which is funny because a lot of people have.
Everyone at Besthesda -- even the fucking interns and janitors -- BELONG ON A FUCKING CROSS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>You can blame Bethesda for something out of their control
Obsidian had every chance to use a different engine, they chose to game gamebryo
>mfw I didn't think new vegas was all that great
>I've heard very good things about 3.
Who the fuck is saying this in 2016?
It's the best Fallout game there is.
(you)
If you're actually this retarded, they had a very strict schedule given by bethesda. They had no choice but to use the engine
also kill yourself............
That would be 2
He's probably from rebbit/neogaf/gamefaqs
>Memeout Poo
>the best
This hurts too much to read.
It's the best game there is.
Yeah that kinda irritates me too.
Hell they should've named it The Elder Scrolls 2277: Capital Wasteland
Would've sell still
Did you work for Obsidian during NV's development?
No?
Then stop acting like you know squat about what Obsidian was and was not allowed to do
Stop shilling someone else's video you faggot
2 is a complete piece of shit. It was unanimously considered to be worse than the original in every fathomable way on release and it still is.
"2 > 1 > NV" was a shitty meme started on Reddit, while the real list is NV = 1 > 2 > 3 > 4.
I think bringing back old games to 3D is really weird. 2D isometric art of Fallout is completely ruined now. They could've made a different game under a different title but they had to do tap to the people who've only heard Fallout's name.
I think Fallout 3-4, Vegas are just fine. But they're not very consistent with the atmosphere 1 and 2 had. I play games for the atmosphere and story.
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I'm sorry but that was only the surface.
Were you? No? Shut the fuck up.
It's objectively the greatest piece of media ever made.
3 is good if you just want a TES game in a Fallout skin but NV is a better Fallout game.
Contrarian hipsters who claim that Invisible Wars is a better game despite Invisible Wars being the most consolized piece of shit ever.
Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded.
its well known they were given a time limit, there is no way they could build an engine that fast. Plus, fallout 3 was just as buggy at launch, and bethesda was in charge of Quality control, so its their fault it was buggy
>wants to get into the series
>disregards the original games
fucking kill yourself. I bet you're what, 15?
>Everyone on Sup Forums hates Fallout 4 (indeed, they hate everything new)
>mfw Fallout 4 was actually really good and a great fresh start after the turd that was skyrim
Also
>implying a company can't change bits and pieces of their world lore after 15+ years
>their lore
>Their lore
Also
>Hating Skyrim and loving Fallout 4 despite Skyrim being more of an RPG than Fallout 4
kek
Fallout 1 was the only good fallout game. NV was a nice try, but its atrocious engine and combat ruined it
>was actually really good
Somebody please bomb Bethesda HQ so our beloved franchise won't be held captive any more.
I need to let go.
I can't.
They didn't have to build one, just use a different one, Obsidian chose to use gamebryo
>go find your dad
Why? He left me to die in a vault.
>You have 18 months
>You can either use this engine with all these assets and SPECIAL system already made
>Or you can another engine and start from scratch
Yeah, sure, what a "choice"
Fallout 4 is actually really good if you pretend its not a Fallout game. It's fun to get lost in and shoot baddies. But as a sequel to a beloved RPG series its a fucking atrocity. Just because you personally had fun with it doesnt mean that our objective criticisms are any less valid
also
>referring to Sup Forums as though you're not on it right now
go back to r/gaming, faggotron
Neo/v/ and reddit hates 4 and praises NV also constantly sucks sawyer's SJW cock.
Im having a blast with 4, now nearing 1.5k hours.
Been playing multiple playstyles despite all the claims having only one role.
When will this meme die?
elder god-tier taste right here, user
Melee, Guns or Luck? Those are the builds.
>Unironically condemning a meme while posting a meme reply.
>they had a time limit!
>they had to use a shitty engine!
I don't care. I feel sorry that Obsidian got the shaft, but I'm not willing to play a game with shit gameplay out of sympathy
Good for you buddy, you can stop sucking todds cock. I don't think he's here.
There's multiple endings, not ? Have you actually played the so called "turd" before you judge ?
>If you purchase something, it doesn't belong to you!
To be fair, while the argument of 'it's a good game but not a good X game' is valid in some respects, Fallout 4 actually feels like a Fallout game and better yet had new gameplay features and mechanics that drove home the central point; crafting, settlements, and so on reinforce the central point of being in a post apocalyptic wasteland.
>I don't know what gameplay in an RPG is
But it's true. The whole Sup Forums hating everything meme should die.
>Blow up the Institute
>Don't blow up the Institute
You're saying they should have built New Vegas from scratch in 18 months? Okay, user.
I didn't say anything about the ending (there is only one with two voice overs). I assumed by 'playstyles' you meant character builds, because I know you didn't mean any form of role-playing.
>gameplay in an RPG is SUPPOSED to be terrible!
>not sucking the chraming alpha manlet Todd
>but sucking gay ass faggot SJW supporting cucked Sawyer's unwashed villager cock
Man, you are the lowest of all kinds.
I never said I did. What's with you a cocks buddy?
>the only type of gameplay is combat
Fuck off back to Skyrim.
Wow. I love fallout shelter 2/fallout minecraft/fallout of duty too
>Blow up the Institute and the Brotherhood
>Blow up the Institute and slaughter the Railroad
>Blow up the Brotherhood and slaughter the Railroad
There's three endings
>giving you the option to suggest the most logical solution to the problem
>companion tells you no because of an arbitrary reason
It's an impressively bad moment in vidya.
>The only difference is who you get to slaughter/blow up despite 3/4 of the factions have no reason to kill each other
>1.5k hours in a singleplayer game
literal autism