Le Illuminati are evul meme

>Le Illuminati are evul meme
As a faggot who picked the Taggart ending in the last game. Why would I want to chase down the Illuminati in this game? they didnt do anything wrong. All they wanted was to restrict augs to not be walking death mobiles anymore. It was Darrow who was an ass and got millions of people killed and the illuminati had no hand in that.

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''Illuminati are homos.'' - Bob Page.

What did he mean by this?

True. As we saw from the Brexit vote, people can't make decisions for themselves.

>Le Illuminati are evul meme
wut. Every DE game did a very good job establishing that the Illuminati is good.

Are you some kind of retard?

at least wait for the game to be released before start complaining about thing you dont know

So Jensen is the bad guy? Can't speak much for Denton since the illuminati didnt reign anymore in his era since the MJ12 took over.

Taggart is objectively the best ending
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That's pretty subjective. Depends on the choice you made and your personal opinions.

In the DE universe though the Illuminati's goal is only to maintain order and keep humanity moving along okay. They aren't bad guys by any means.

Well every trailer for MD so far has been with Jensen saying ''I MUST STOP THE ILLUMINATI THAT ARE WORKING BEHIND THE SHADOWS AND UNCOVER THEIR EVIL DEEDS''

The Illuminati used subversive and outright violent means to try and effect control, and keyword is try. They were miserable failures who constantly fucked things up then had to cover their tracks.
You're supposed to question the moral and philosophical implications of each organization.
The Illuminati want reign over people like gods without a shred of benevolence to preserve their idea of order. All the while enjoying the latest technical advancements for themselves, restricting what is available to the common riff raff. They're no different from kings who dictate to the people what is law, only they do it from the shadows.

Sarif wants industry to advance at its own pace, allowing cultural issues to iron themselves out naturally. He is driven by profit, but he also genuinely believes that augs will be a net good for humanity, and the technological boom taking place will be worth it in the long run.
And if the Illuminati wasn't fanning the flames by manipulating anti-aug groups all of the issues presented in HR would have been minor.

They most definitely are not good. They maintain status quo.
If you can't tell the difference there then even IW is way over your head.

Slit your wrists.

link?

Agreed.
I thought that illuminati was painted as the bad guy tho in HR. OPPOSITE to the others.

>The Illuminati want reign over people like gods without a shred of benevolence to preserve their idea of order. All the while enjoying the latest technical advancements for themselves, restricting what is available to the common riff raff. They're no different from kings who dictate to the people what is law, only they do it from the shadows.
You're mistaking the Illuminati for MJ12

>"Let's let Congress handle it": the Ending
Yes this will go well I'm sure

Anouncement trailer, 101 trailer etc

He never says Illuminati.

And based on how HR ended with Bob Page forming MJ12, it's incredibly likely that's who Jensen is going against.

Yeah but the whole point is that nobody should control humanity. Even if it helps, humanity has a right to destroy itself.

It sounds autistic but that's the message the game is trying to convey, I believe

Everyone knows had MD will go.
>Jensen is convinced illuminati are evil
>bob page is using jensen to bring down the illuminati
>jensen succeeds
>MJ12 takes over like how they are supposed to according to the original game in the early 2030's
The end.

>Even if it helps, humanity has a right to destroy itself.
that's dumb m8. I'm glad the Illuminati is there to keep us from nuking ourselves into extinction.

pretty much

>outright violent

They never ever do that.

They instigate Purity First attacks, exactly like the CIA did with the Arab Spring in real life.

Sarif is just too damn likable.
I would follow Sarif to the ends of the Earth.
youtube.com/watch?v=w6LQgrWzFMk

They don't do that, though.

But they don't. Purity First and Humanity Front aren't connected.

>used you as a test subject and cut off limbs and shit that werent even needed to be amputated to save your life just to see how far he could go auging you knowing you are the perfect specimen to try it out on.
>lies to you all the time
>knows about your past being a testtube baby and didnt tell you about it
What a great friend indeed.

I know right? Pretty reasonable fellow.

I was expecting either him or Pritchard to screw over Adam somehow but they never did. Maybe it's because I did well in all the convos with him.

>saved your life and gave you useful and expensive toys in the process

He's cool by me.

I just stayed up all night and got all the achievements for this game.

>intro scene where jensen is getting aug'd
>hear Sarif say: ''he's no good to me like this''
Fucking dick.

>Le Illuminati are evul meme

You can join them in literally every single Deus Ex game.

WHERES MALIK
NO MALIK NO BUY
I DIDNT SAVE HER LIFE FOR NO REASON

How? the game isnt even out yet.

WHERE IS JURI

Shes been replaced by Generic Black Guy

HR

Will there be a asia hub in this game? they've always been the best in the Deus Ex games. Also Dubai doesnt count.

>The illuminati is good

Good goy

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Most people probably didnt know you could save her and just left when she said ''JUST GO JENSEN''

>only 35% of people on Steam have finished the game

why didnt u save me user?

No Bob, you are the Illuminati
>and then Bob was a homo

>0.1% of people beat the final boss but didn't finish the game

Explain this.

>that new hole
Hnnnggg

>tfw i thought that thing on her face was a sexy mole
>find out its a piercing

>generic

how so? he's south African.

didn't she blow up?
what's with the continuity errors? shit series, preorder canceled.

I feel the need to play HR again in DC version, but going though pacifist again and saving Malik again is killing it for me

>DC version

>tfw I got pacifist with Save Malik in the same playthrough

Just got to get the alarm ones, and I'm good.

DX1's political statements were much more interesting.

she died but you later find her corpse after Harvesters took her body and ripped out her aug implant so they can sell it to someone else.

Making these games prequels was a mistake.

t. bootlicker

Invisible War had pretty definitive endings though.

Amazingly enough, Warren Spector accurately predicted the next 15 years pretty goddamned accurately. Gun control legislation, meme wars, natural disasters in California devastating the west coast, and branding people who refuse to turn in their arms as terrorists.

where else would you have put them? After IW in the next century?

>spinning Warren's message into gun-nut libertardian friendly propaganda

The point is corporate consolidation, demagogy and weakening governments, not your right to shoot fucking niggers.

DELET THIS

probably means the first one.

it had a DC version.

Make a sequel, set it after the events of Deus Ex
>IW
what?

>Every DE game did a very good job establishing that the Illuminati is good.

did you even play DE1? JC is very suspicious about the Illuminati.

Wait is this true? Am i being meme'd?

Also China is exactly what happens if libertarians get their way. An unregulated jungle with ever more powerful companies, thugs rule the streets and PMCs rule.

So suspicious he joins them in one of the endings

Let me elaborate

Making these games prequels and not de-canonizing Invisible War was a mistake.

absolute power corrupts absolutely, it's a lot of faith to give one group complete power to decide what's best for everyone else

It's true, only if you didnt save her in the game.

Ha ha funny meme, unfortunately they can't just ignore a game in the series because it wasn't liked.

how is the ps2 version of deus ex?

When did I ever say that? It's just things that are literally happening. Look at that Oregon ranch occupation.

They probably died.

;_;

You're pretending DX's message that is about the worldwide issue of companies seizing power through corrupt politics is instead about americans getting muh guns laws because having daily shootings is literally happening ONLY in the US. You're exactly the kind of people who's getting manipulated and tricked and yet when people point to the moon, you stare at the finger. Fucking embarassing.

Graphics are arguably better, and soundtrack is orchestrated. Aside from that, it's worse. Levels are scaled down and reorganized, few customers, quests, and scripted events are cut, and load times are longer.

It's still recognizably Deus Ex, but you're better off playing PC.

>having daily shootings is literally happening ONLY in the US

>Haha it also happens in Angola and Liberia
Good job keeping yourself at that level.

What the shit are you talking about, you autistic moron. I just pointed out that a lot of shit he wrote in the back story is happening. I never voiced a fucking political opinion, or started praising lolbertarian ideas.

Fuck off, you drooling retard.

Yes they can, just like Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection is going out of the window for being a trash they are

MD better fucking have an Illuminati ending.

But it had more or less definit Endings...

It has the highest murder rate by firearms of any developed nation.

>Warren Spector accurately predicted current events
agreed, but then you go on rambling about muh guns when you're 100% missing the actual point of the game. Fairly sure you're the drooling retard.

wow. this UI is hideous.

That's literally what fucking happens on liberal networks, and is what caused the NSF to break away.

I don't even own a gun, fuck off.

>communist country
>"where libertarians get there way"
It's almost like socialism doesn't work and ends up libertarian anyway.
Well at least you leftards are finally admitting defeat.

>customers

Obviously I meant cutscenes. Fuck autocorrect.

>All they wanted was to restrict augs to not be walking death mobiles anymore.

Excluding their augs, obviously.

"communist"

You know, because Congo calls itself Democratic Republic of Congo it doesn't make it true.
China is 100% capitalist, all means of production are owned by billionaires. I don't expect amerifats to know anything past whatever drivel your news channel dump in your face (who are oddly enough owned by a handful of billionaires) but you guys enjoy being used as lackeys by a handful of old wealthy assholes. No, a country where all the resources, media and companies are owned by private entities isn't communist.

>it's almost as socialism doesn't work
t. someone with 0 education who never read an actual book

Pic related, you.

Never played the games, are Illuminati connected to other NWO conspiracy theories like Saturn, the black cube, Moloch and other occult stuff?

Well yeah, do you see anyone else owning a fully operational loaded tank in this age besides the goverment?

>suddenly a buttmad leftist sperging out

Go away dude.

There's no need to be upset

Is murder by firearm supposed to be worse than murder by knife or something? Why not try looking at stats for all murder.

>that guy on the right

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>being this autistic

Fucking Europeons.

Hopefully MD will have some sexy augmented women, HR's shitty mute Rihanna knockoff didnt do anything for me.

>We Will Be Watching, Trump