MOOOOOOOOM BUT LEGOS ARE SO HARD

>MOOOOOOOOM BUT LEGOS ARE SO HARD

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get a mac

it just werks.

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>website is called a Motherboard

I have a bit of trouble with the wires because I'm retarded but building a PC is an hour's task at a slow careful pace

>Maiberg
You won't get me, Jew!

>Thought the same way.
>Chickened out and got a prebuild
>Prebuild's case was shit
>Had it for a year until I bought a new case, PSU, GPU, and CPU cooler.
>Rebuilding the PC with the new gear only took an hour since it was my first time.
>No hiccups. Everything ran smoothly.

Buying a prebuild is a shitty way to spend money. I regret being a little baby and I should have just built one from the beginning.

Two things are actually stressful about building a PC and they are the exact kind of thing keeping newfags from getting into it:

1. Worrying about static destroying expensive parts.

2. No accepted standards (for things such as case size, cable lengths, constantly changing sockets for CPUs etc.) so you might buy parts that don't fit together and the whole affair gets delayed until you send some shit back and choose other shit instead. The average person refuses to deal with this nonsense and that's not going to change.

If any anons work in some hardware company, go ahead and solve these two problems. If building a PC were like LEGO in the sense that it's 1) low risk and 2) not a chore to find components that fit together (some sites have actually solved this problem, they won't let you configure builds with incompatible pieces).

...then the rest of my sentence is missing...

Then average people would start building their own PCs, prebuilts would disappear. If this is what you want make it happen.

>1. Worrying about static destroying expensive parts.
nigga please, when was the last time you generated static at home?

1. Get an anti-static band

2. You already solved problem 2 yourself by talking about researching

I get nr 2, the information gathering and read up required for your first build is a hassle and requires work.
But nr 1 is so easily preventable it really is a non issue.

>Static
Touch the case, problem solved.
>No accepted standards
PCpartpicker

Sometimes PC building can be stupid though.
>Follow recommendations of PC building website and buy a motherboard and a new CPU.
>install CPU
>computer turns on but BIOS won't post.
>after doing some research, it turns out that although the MOBO is designed for that type of CPU, it comes with outdated BIOS that will not post with that CPU.
>In order to update BIOS, you need an older CPU so that the old BIOS will post, then go to setup and update it.

Granted, this was back in the early 2000s, I think they fixed that problem by letting you update the BIOS with a flash drive. Of course in order to do that you need a separate working computer.

If you're over 20 and you have a job/responsibilities, plus other hobbies and everything (basically, if you aren't a tech enthusiast), there's no way paying someone to build your pc isn't cheaper (in terms of time and money) than learning everything you need to know.
But underages, Sup Forums fatasses and neets will try everything to prove the opposite.

I have literally never had a problem with static when building a PC. I also don't use a static band.

I built my first PC in january and it did take me about 3 hours but it was too satisfying for me to complain, whoever wrote that article is a huge faggot

I took an IT class some years back. First project second week of class we had to disassemble and reassemble a computer and get it to work.
It was easy as fuck, took only two class periods to do everything and I knew next to nothing when I entered the class.

The hardest thing I've ever done was trying to take off a stock i5 CPU cooler off my motherboard to replace it. The pins on that thing just stopped working and would not come out no matter how much I twisted and pulled.
Was really afraid I'd scratch my motherboard trying to take it off.
Eventually, after like 30 minutes of fucking around with no results, had to get cutters, cut the black mounts on the top in half and pull them out with pliers.

Nothing else I've done building a pc even comes close.

Case size is the only thing that has had trouble keeping up with every growing GPUs. Worst case scenario, you leave the door open. Most things these days are compatible without even research, and research is as easy as plugging your stuff into pcpartpicker

I feel you there. First build I ever did the computer would have a 75% chance of actually booting. Tried every trick under the book including rma'ing the psu and ram before I realised it wasn't their fault. Fucking Asrock and their shitty mobos are pure garbage, and the one that microcenter gave me in exchange also didn't work. I just went with an Asus after that.

I wish I'd had an already working build at the time so that I could've just tested each part one by one to determine the fault. Instead I spent a month shipping stuff back and waiting for it in the mail before I figured out the problem.

>researching
>implying the average consumer does a minute of research before buying an expensive product

The average sheep walks up to a fucking professional SALESMAN to find out what they should buy, like a pig going to the butcher to learn about career opportunities. We're talking about getting some dozens of percents of people into PC building who are already using google before buying things. We are talking about a sort of sub-elite, higher than the masses but not autistic enough to currently take on the unknown challenge that is building a PC to them. You and I know the ups and downs because we've done it before. The unknown is a great creator of fear, any horror director will tell you that.

That was the site I was thinking of but I didn't want to sound like a shill.

I also don't, never broke anything but I still sweat bullets when first turning a computer on.

>Maiberg

Well of course.

>LOGOS
It's LEGO, you fucking dumb illiterate yank.

IT and networking were the easiest credits ever back when I was in college. "Can you pass a test identifying parts? Very good! Now comes the scary part, putting all these pre chosen parts together!"
30 minutes later I finished 3 days of work.

I had the same problem when I was testing my cpu in my current build. One of the pins wouldn't come out and I had to break it off from the top to get it out. I was scared shitless about breaking my motherboard while doing that

>. You and I know the ups and downs because we've done it before.

I built my first PC at 14 and finished the build in an hour or two, wasn't afraid of shit because certain slots were clearly meant for specific parts and I'm not a retard

>1. Worrying about static destroying expensive parts.

I've always assembled my PCs on the carpeted floor. Nothing ever happened.

Dumb europoor

>learning everything you need to know
Yeah buddy putting a part into a marked slot is really hard

I'm a 22 year old working 60+ hours a week as a payroll implementation specialist. I put my PC together in 20 minutes and for $400 cheaper than a pre build with the same parts. You have no excuse other than legitimate mental retardation.

Only trouble I ever had with case size was because I've used left overs from a pre-built piece of shit my father got, trying to save some money.

I had to buy an MSI gpu because they make them really short compared to say ASUS or GIGABYTE because otherwise it wouln't fit in the case.

Most of the time as long as you pick up a standard Mid-Tower there should be no problems at all.

this. i've even used a magnetic screwdriver and bent the motherboard

(((berg)))

>calls others "dumb illiterates"
>posts a dumb illiterate
>is a dumb frogposter
Like pottery

>LOGOS

Don't see the problem with getting a pre-built PC DESU; I know I'm paying a premium for being lazy and frankly I don't care. I've built PCs in the past but I don't care about doing it from scratch again, rather pay slightly more to just get a box that I can plug in and be on my way in a matter of minutes.

I built my first budget rig in 2011, using Youtube videos as reference. Everything worked on first boot, except for front panel audio, but fuck front panel audio.

No, fuck you, the only complicated thing is the cooler on the cpu.
That shit makes me literally sweat

Me too. I don't give a single fuck about PC hardware and probably never will

t.mad eu cuck

Literally what?

>(you)

I want to build one, I just need to wait until i'm out of college and have some money saved.
Looks fun though

You're blind as shit nigger.

Hello LEGO marketing division. Sorry you're so confused about what plural forms are good for. I know you can't get marketing research as easily when people say Legos, but you just have to live with that fact. Trying to change it is like trying to tell people the "g" in gif is pronounced "jif"

>vice

when are left wing click bait sites going to be banned from Sup Forums?

It's always nice to learn something new.
Remember to stay calm.

b-but it's better if you do it and not make a professional

Me, too. So what? The meme is still out there and deterring people from buying individual PC parts.

>you leave the door open

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF great argument against ever building your own PC.

You may not have had a concept of how expensive the parts were that you could be breaking, and at 14 we all had tons of free time to the point I was usually bored and reading up on what hardware was how good would be FUN to me. This is not the situation most adults find themselves in.

And then there's this scenario: One of the parts being broken since always, or since shipping, and you having to figure out which one. There is no argument to disarm this risk. It exists and normalfags can't be arsed to take it. And honestly they're right. If I didn't enjoy video games, had a Jewish relationship with money and an interest in programming etc etc why the hell wouldn't I spend the extra 100-200 bucks to have peace of mind and do zero research? The meme that "building a PC is easy, people are idiots for not doing it" misses reality by a mile.

PC is expensive, overheating, energy-draining worthless shit.
>muh games

>It's not complicated because I know how to do it!

Literally the mindset of an autist. The average person doesn't know shit about computers and would not even know where to begin when it comes to buying parts, let alone building one.

>tfw it used to be "that cool website with real news"
Internet journalism was a mistake

>i bought a gimmicky case and couldnt find any info on how to actually put shit together in it

lmao where the fuck is the CPU, where the fuck is its cooler, it doesnt look ilke it could even possibly fit

literally the key to building a bomb ass rig is not cheaping out on the CASE.
i spent like 130$ on mine or some shit like that and i am so fucking greatful i did.
case upgrade and PSU upgrade should be done at the same time now that i mention it since you have to disconnect and reseat everything anyway.

Doesn't really need to be. You can build an adequate one 10 minutes max.

>case upgrade
Why would you ever do that?

>technology news site rights an article about how PC building is hard instead of writing an article about how to build a PC

nu-journalism

Nigger, that's retarded. It takes all of half a fucking hour to learn how to put together a PC, if you're so fucking lazy that you can't even do that then you don't have a fucking job.

That being said, I still just get my local computer shop to do it, I just pay them $30, mail my components directly there, and come pick up my PC a week later.

(((Emanuel Maiberg)))

>expensive
put together over time.
>overheating
temps are all low on idle and are low under load
>energy draining
auto hibernate, monitor auto powers off
>worthless
no.

Just buy a full size tower and never have to worry about space. I've got a 750d which has plenty of room in it

Shit's easier than Legos. You got like 10 parts tops, all of them have very specific slots that are virtually impossible to fuck up (especially these days, RIP ribbons), and thereis zero creativity involved. Even the simplest Lego boxes have like 50 pieces in it.

That's a nordic name. Mai = May (month), Berg = mountain. Maiberg = May Mountain

the front header fans break sometimes or something weird with the bottom legs or mechanical problems in general.
on mine one of the leg pegs snapped off, so the tower can tip over if nothing supports underneath.
not enough to upgrade, but i still want a new case in the future.

>take the entire mobo and everything out just because you unhook shit from the psu

lol wat

>expensive
>put together over time.

That's retarded, you'd get more out of your money if you saved until you can buy all parts at once.

>Not cheap out on case

100% this. I love my rig but I regret the case I was recommended 3 or 4 years ago. 50 dollar nzxt not recommended.

>Worrying about static destroying expensive parts.
That's not really an issue with modern parts. Unless you're dressed in a wool sweater rolling around in the carpet for 30 minutes.

>No accepted standards
Wut? Parts size is the only issue parts has been standardized since the QWERTY keyboard. If you manage to mess this up you didn't do your homework.

underrated

My friend has been running his pc without a case for 5 years now. I wouldn't recommend it for a lot of reasons, but an open door isn't the end of the world. The parts will survive.

linkedin.com/in/emanuel-maiberg-0b777a25

He writes about Jewish issues. He's a Jew

yeah if you're changing your case, which involves taking out the mobo, you might as well upgrade your PSU also. what is hard to understand about that?

It was just a joke, m8.

I have a 770 right now.

Should I upgrade to a 1070 8G or a 1080? Or should I wait for a price drop on the 900s?

Cant you just pay a little more to get it built?

980ti's have dropped a good amount. Get one on ebay

>Emanuel
>writing for vice
Dude, he's obviously Jewish.

>Jewish issues
>oy vey these goyim are very problematic

not if you buy used the first time. i literally bought a used GPU for cheap and it worked perfectly for me, then i resold it when i got my 980.
you just can't manage funds properly.
also in November you get CPUs for i5s and i7s for cheap.

Reading the article, it comes off as building your own PC is the only way to get into PC gaming. He then says he recommends Macs to non tech savvy persons.

Why doesn't he mention that you can buy prebuilt gaming PCs? A prebuilt gaming PC is still cheaper than a Mac.

>not doubling down on edgy

You're doing Sup Forums wrong mein kamerad

the answer is in my pic

Because he's an Apple shill, he even quotes Apple.

I built my own PC from scratch a while ago. Ordered all the parts and put them together just by following the manual that came with the motherboard. It was surprisingly easy.

What he said wasn't that edgy, just half-assed.

>one year or so ago
>decide to build gaymen pc
>order components from trusty website
>CPU came with the wrong cooler, missing thermal paste
>motherboard's manual illustrates a completely different motherboard
>no guides on the internet
>ask manufacturer if i can have correct manual
>answer from customer support is an e-mail literally only saying "No."
>welp, whatever, i'll bring it to an electronics shop and have it built there before fucking something up, it's my first time after all
>some time later they call me
>"... what did you do to the motherboard?"
>apparently the taiwanese factory shithole it was produced in had workers purposely sabotaging their products
>had to pay 300$ than predicted
>day later
>PSU and HDD fail
i love my life
:)

I'm not up for it today, not like I gave it much effort. Doubling down would make it kinda tryhard don't you think?

Noone fucking wants that, is the point. I used to get a weird humming noise from my PC when the door was closed so I left it open for a while, too lazy to identify the underlying issue. I don't even remember what it was but I did solve it. Long story short, a PC is louder when the case is open. And fan noise is already one of the more annoying aspects of PCs in general (not comparing to consoles, console fans and DISC DRIVES HOLY SHIT are even worse).

But at whatever point you're able to buy the last part all the previous parts would surely be even cheaper than they were before. Or are you talking about putting lots of time into finding the best deals (lots of time because first you have to be able to tell what deals are actually good), basically scouting for sellers who don't know how much their used parts are worth? Remember, my whole point is that the average person has good reasons not to engage in any of these behaviours. If what I'm describing here is what you mean then that's time consuming.

this is why newegg exists

The first desktop I bought was a prebuilt.
Since then I've realised they're shit for the amount of money you'd spend, started building shit myself without ever having issues, never looked back.

Unless you plan on getting a 970, it's not really worth it.
the 1060 will have 6gb of vram and you wont have the 3.5gb draw of the of hat of a 970. You'd be better off waiting for 1060 benchmarks.

any laptop anons? how did I do for my first video game laptop?

I only buy parts from newegg or Amazon for this very reason

>:)

You are the first one person i met who buys used pc parts. It's definitely not a common thing.

nice b8 m8

>That's not really an issue with modern parts. Unless you're dressed in a wool sweater rolling around in the carpet for 30 minutes.

who would've thought that this part of my lifestyle would ever cause any problems

I WILL NEVER STOP! it's just how I...roll.

>1. 1. Worrying about static destroying expensive parts.
A scare tactic that's been outdated for a while that still has failsafes even if you're a fucking retard. Anti-static workplace mats and anti-static wristbands exist. Workplace mats are kind of expensive, seeing as the only purpose they serve is for people who assemble PCs for a career or build PCs a lot. Wristbands are like three dollars on Amazon and all you do is attach the clip at the end to the case, there's a wire running up the cord to the wristband that has a piece of metal attached to your skin which keeps you risk-free. I didn't use a wristband but I kind of wish I bought one at the time for the peace of mind it gives people who are afraid of this problem. I also assembled on a tiled floor.


>2. No accepted standards

For the people who are too lazy to actually do the research, Compatible CPU/Mobo bundles exist on Amazon and Newegg. There are already industry standards in place for GPUs and Motherboard sizes. (x16 PCI-E for GPUs the past several years, micro/mini/standard/extended ATX for mobos)

Although I will agree that the amount of studying that goes into understanding what component does what an where to put it is kind of threatening to someone who isn't willing to learn.

It's got a fucking 960m so it's shit

To anyone whining about the first point, it's not just static, but in general the idea that you're handling something incredibly delicate and expensive and that the smallest mistake (drop it, drop something on it, bend it trying to put it in place, short circuit because wrong/missing cable etc. etc.) could easily destroy it.
And inb4 someone goes "Durrr I never make mistakes", that's not the point. The point is the risk and uneasyness is there which is why so many people find the task daunting.