Why do people rate this? It's complete shit

Why do people rate this? It's complete shit.

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Most PS nostalgiafags are also hipster artfags that prefer the atmosphere and spectacle of a videogame over the actual content and gameplay experience.

Can you list some reasons for you opinion? Calling it shit is just going to look like bait and have most not take you seriously.

Because it's got good atmosphere and challenging gameplay.

>Big, empty, flat world
>Find a colossus and then QTE it to death
>Do this throughout the whole game

It's absolute fucking nonsense. Of you wanna fight big monsters play God of War, because it's way more fun.

The controls are really clunky, notably so when riding the horse; climbing may as well be QTEs with how little interactivity there is on the player's part; game is very short on content (possibly because a lot of planned colossus [colossi?] were scrapped); has no replay value whatsoever.

I'll admit the graphics are top-tier of its gen, though. Music is nice, too.

>why do people rate this
>proceeds to rate it as complete shit
I dunno OP, why?

>hates a game for QTE based elements even though there really isn't QTE elements
>recommends a game that has actual QTE events in it

Holy shit this feels like bait.

When you "rate" something, it means you think it's good. If you like something, you might say "I rate it".

How the fuck can you not know this? It's a very common terminology.

never heard anyone say that.

game is a lot more fun when you emulate it and use save states.

I've heard the phrase used by a select few Americans, it must be a regional thing over there. (I'm a britbong)

God of War, even with the QTEs, is way more interactive than SotC.

>Here's a Colossus
>Here's the weakpoint
>Here's a button to press to climb it
>Climb the Colossus and then stab it in the head
>Dead Colossus

I've never heard of "rating" being inherently good. I can rate something 1/10.

Underage pls leave

It's cinematic, sonyggers love games with bad gameplay, but good story.

See: any Naughty Dog game released in the last decade.

Probably the most concise reasonings besides the emptiness of the world, but I don't really understand how the climbing/attacking monsters would be considered QTEs. Depending on how you mount creatures, you can either struggle and fall going nowhere, or fling yourself all the way up to their head if you fuck around with momentum.

As for replay value, I can't say because I've only done one entire playthrough, and haven't touched the Extra mode that gives you a bunch of experimental (or overpowered) weapons and items.

>Music
Yes.

>I'm a britbong

Really? Because so am I, and as far as I know it"0's a very British thing to say. If you like something or think it's good, you say "I rate it". It's super fucking common here.

The door is right there, friend.

>>Here's a button to press to climb it
except it doesn't do that at all. you have a grab button and you have to figure out a way to climb, all the while making sure your grab meter doesn't run out before you reach the weak spot.

you sound like you didn't even play the game.

Then you say "I don't rate it".

There's the tension of trying to find the weak spot while not falling off the beast. The atmosphere is excellent, and the story is just the right amount of simple with some great emmotional investment. Music and graphics are also great. It's dramatic as fuck, and killing a clossus always feels great.

I just love it. First played it at 16 yo, and now at 28 I still think it's great.

Never heard it. I'm in the northwest.

Where? Cumbria? Lancashire? Greater Manc? It's a common term where I live.

>Emotional investment
>A girl you see at the beginning of the game who you know absolutely nothing about is "Emotional investment"

Oh fuck off. It has zero character development at all.

>B-BUT YOURE THE BAD GUY

Who fucking cares? You never knew anything about the characters in the first place.

Lancashire

>he thinks the girl is the investment
>not the horse
Son...

>Big, empty, flat world

I suspect most of the reasons you hated Shadow of the Colossus are reasons most people including myself enjoyed it. It is very non-conventional and minimalist.

I can only speak for myself, but SOTC is a game I played about twice and I'll probably never play it again. Yet, it is among my favorites because it offered me something no other game has (barring ICO) and made me feel intensely for the story and characters.

A large reason for this is because it respected me as a consumer to figure out the details of the plot, setting, motivations, etc

Yes, the gameplay in SOTC is indeed fairly weak on repeat plays I would argue but it was far from the focus. SOTC is more about providing you with feelings of isolation, (big empty world as you put it) companionship (agro the horse) intrigue/mystery (unraveling the motivations and reasons for why these guardians are sealed, etc) and ultimately a bittersweet yet still uniquely somber sending off as the curtains close.

You're not wrong for disliking or not enjoying SOTC, it just means you wanted a different kind of experience which is fine.

That being said, I just spent my time replying serious to low effort bait.

The only reason i can think of to call it shitty is that some colossus are just antagonizing and tedious to fight.
The sky dragon was fun as fuck tho.

Yeah, it's not like you see Wander slowly deteriorate while hoping all that shit works. There's also the peaceful colossi that never did anything to you. There's Agro.

>I need everything explicitly explained to me
>No I don't know what subtletly is

What the fuck is this post. Are these the kind of hipsters that like these kinds of vapid, tasteless, "art" games.

Damn this is low quality bait. Either you are a fucking 15 year old retard or someone completely fucking retarded.

>challenging gameplay
The fuck? A new player can very easily finish the game without a single death.

No, it isn't.

You're right perhaps I should have shitposted or insulted the OP instead.

Likely the better choice in hindsight.

Anyone got that Sephirothsword57 webm of him fighting this game?

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Oh, don't give us the "subtlety" excuse - the game's lore is a bunch of pretentious, intentionally vague bullshit that's meant to invoke some artificial sense of mystery and mysticism by keeping the player ignorant of what's actually going on.

Subtly isn't the same as vagueness. Quit being fucking stupid.

it's the kind of thing you're supposed to inject yourself into, or feel great empathy toward

Now I don't want to pick on you, but it's a fucking videogame man. Don't analyze it like it's some brooding and deep mystery, when its depth is that of a puddle - I think even the average Sup Forumstard understood its symbolism. Problem is, for those that don't like it at least, that doesn't make the gameplay itself enjoyable. Fine if.you favour pretentiousness over gameplay enjoyment, but otherwise I'd wager this as overrated mediocrity with a gorgeous soundtrack and decent graphics.

You know, it's possible to dislike a game and said game be good. Shadow of the Collosus is a good game. I don't really care for it either,but it is a good game. It's made very well and it's in no way a bad game. Try not to make yourself look so much like a 5 year old retarded kid.

That is the point of the entire game, you big fucking idiot. You think that wasn't intentional? How fucking dumb can you be?

You are even put in the shoes of a Colossus and then killed without anything you can do to stop it and you still think that the game is actually trying to justify the actions of the wanderer? That is the point no matter what the head canon for who the girl was the point was that regardless what his reasoning was he shouldn't have kill the Colossi.

Nice artstyle and gameplay which appeals to casuals.

>Get told
>No it's not!

You have to be really fucking stupid to not figure the plot out by the end. It's not vague at all. You're either being stubborn or really stupid.

The point is you know absolutely nothing about the characters in the game. Whether you jump in at the beginning or at the end, it doesn't fucking matter. That's the point. It's completely vacuous.

It was nice but way too short. The quality doesn't make up for the lack of quantity. Of course I wish Dragon's Dogma bosses were as good as SotC but I'd take 100 g of 18-carat gold over 2 g of 24-carat anytime.

You are stupid as shit. Every piece of art can be overly explained or whatever, the issue is actually pointing out the works that do try to tell more than what they are showing and saying at loud.

Shadow of the Colossus is one of those games, every aspect of the game is minimalistic but it has a purpose, specially in this kind of games subtle changes are more relevant than on other non minimalistic games because that contrast in the tone of the game and the changes make them appear more important and if the author is intelligent, it will use those subtle changes to try to tell something instead of doing an expository scene so the most retarded players can see what is going on.

>tfw this is shitposting now
>but it will be hated later on Sup Forums just like everything else

But 1/10 is a rating. It's a bad rating, but still a rating.

>If you like something, you might say "I rate it".
If you're retarded then maybe.

You just make me want to play it even more OP.

I've learned that when a game is really bad it dies out really quick, like Understale. But when a game gets continual discussion or bash threads for years after its release it's actually good. Not ironically, Zelda is a good example of this. Even though Skyward Sword is bottom of the barrel it still gets bashed frequently, because people are passionate about what a let-down it was, but still want to discuss it; because even a bad Zelda is still 10/10 in typical terms.

I call it Zelda's Law and it always holds true. It seems like everybody who plays this game has to make a thread about it, therefore it's good and you know it's good, but you're a bumhurt Nintoddler or PC shmuck. Prove me freaking wrong.

Also, Tom says it's good.
youtube.com/watch?v=S8iKdRf3klE

But that is the idea, why do you care how they are? If they are brother and sisters or lovers or complete strangers? How does that change the game? Do you need the goal or the purpose of a piece of fiction to be so "youproof"? The point is that regardless what their connection or the reasons the wanderer wanted to revive her are irrelevant only his actions and the concurrences of those actions, which you get to experience in gameplay as well.

People shit on "cinematic" games or games wanting to be movies to tell a story but when a game actually nails how to tell a compelling story in video game form they complain that it isn't more like a movie. Maybe you should go play Uncharted or some other AAA movie garbage game.

so you never played this, great.

There's nothing wrong with SotC's minimalistic approach to design as a concept, but the gameplay suffers as a result. Why should gameplay suffer in favour of artistic licensing?

I mean you can be into that sort of videogame if you like, but surely you can understand why others would not like any of it? Come to think of it, I rest my case, there's nothing else to say.

Almost 10 years since the original release and I am glad to see that Sup Forums hasn't turned against this game, yet.

I wonder what will happen once TLG finally releases. Personally I love ICO and SotC so I don't know if a game that went to hell and back can actually fill up those shoes left by those 2 great games but I hope Ueda can deliver, I believe in him and so far he hasn't let me down. I just hope the kid or Trico don't ended up dying in the game

The fuck are you on about? Almost nothing is made clear in the end.

Why was Mono sacrificed?
What was Mono's "cursed destiny"?
Why was Dormin sealed up in the first place?
Was Dormin even a bad guy to begin with?
How the fuck does Wander turn into a baby?
How is Agro still alive after that kind of fall?

>Sup Forums hipsters
>not overweight pimply face perverted social fuck ups

You're a fucking faggot OP, game is good

Did you ignore the entire thread or something?

OP may have been shitposting, but I wasn't. I legitimately feel this game is overrated artsy tripe.

How does the gameplay suffer? I don't even...

holyshit, how is this game cinematic? there's like 20 minutes in total of cutscenes, even Zelda is more cinematic.

You are just a fucking retard, Sup Forums is full of your kind.

The idea is that it's completely vacuous and you don't give a single fuck about anything? OK.

yeah it was shit undertale and fnaf are much better

>cinematic
>SotC

I'm not the OP
Also, couldn't think of a fitting word other than hipster, even though I'm aware the hipster lifestyle itself wouldn't fit the Sup Forums demographic. I'm sure you knew what I meant regardless.

Myself and others already detailed the bland and repetitive nature of the gameplay, so just skim the thread please.

Hey, I acknowledged it's fine to like this game, I can see why people would like it as an "art game" (for lack of a better term), but as an actual videogame, the gameplay itself sucks. I feel a lot of people wouldn't want yo admit it as this game's received high acclaim ajd really does have legitimately great graphics and music (as I've already stated), but the gameplay is so bland.

No, but I will not explained it to you because I see I am arguing with a 15 year old that can't think for himself and needs the game to tell them exactly everything he needs to know and can't understand the meaning of subtle or subtly.

Apart from riding around in empty fields of "exploring" temples, the whole game is pretty much cinematic.

What's subtle about it? Please explain it to me, user...

I am

Absolutely nothing.
The game has a great sense of atmosphere and exploration, ans it's true that some of the design choices/plot are used symbolically, but that user is talking out of his ass to seem deep about a fucking videogame.

>all this nu male substanceless criticsm
nobody cares nerd

>rate this
All I ever hear are little shits everywhere going "I rate that!" "I rate it!"
It's honestly disgusting

I don't get what do you want from the Gameplay? What I see is someone from 2016 playing the game without the notion what retrospective means. You can't seem to place yourself in the time this game was released and how it could have seen as change of peace of how shit like this works.

For example, gigantic enemies were done before, case in point God of War series (and I think that twice since God of War 2 came out in 2006, same year as SotC) and how did gigantic enemies worked there? Mash square while the enemies where doing nothing and then start moving once an animation of attack started, then do a QTE to finish them off.

SotC doesn't have QTE, in the same sense as God of War, did you want an action button masher or something? I can't understand people that want to play the same game every single time.

probably the most original game out there.
i don't think there's a single game currently out like it.
plus it helps that it has great gameplay. sure riding Agro through miles of empty space is kind of lame but the colossi battles make up for it.

>Says that the game is subtle
>Can't explain why it's subtle
>Goes on to say if isn't actually subtle

Christ almighty. Just shut the fuck up.

>28
>still plays video games
grow the fuck up lol

jesus I'm 18 and theres no way I'm going to be as pathetic as you in ten years

>makes fun of people playing vidya on the VIDYA board

You're already more pathetic than him at 18, faggot.

>I don't get what do you want from the Gameplay?
Not that user, but uh... Oh, I don't know... A game where the premise isn't just being a glorified boss rush where you climb goofy looking rock monsters and stab their weakpoints? That's a start.

Dude this is an anonymous imageboard, people jump in an out of conversations all the fucking time, is your first time in fucking Sup Forums?

An you want to see how the game is subtle? Every time you kill a colossi the wanderer gets attacked and while you are in control of it, the game designers allow you to "escape" from it every single time and regardless of how far you make it they always get to you. Now why would someone do that to a player? For what reasons? Why not just let a cinematic roll of how the wanderer gets attacked after the player successfully killed a Colossi?

I don't rate your post, user.

I couldn't figure out why so many people were bashing this game. It's one of those objectively excellent benchmark games that you'd think even Sup Forums would have unanimous praise for.

Then I checked the wiki.

>only ever released for Playstation consoles

You faggots need to grow the fuck up.

Perhaps you should try Zelda user.

in 2006? God damn it I hate young people.

I think you're confusing me with the chucklefuck that recommended GoW over this game. I dislike GoE for basically the same sorta reasons that I dislike SotC. It's the barely minimum of a videogame; ergo, it's barely a game. Anons reacted with disgust to someone calling SotC cinematic, but I actually agree with that notion. Keep in mind, cinematic doesn't just mean cutscenes and the like, it's a general term for anything played for spectacle - usually in a gripping visual, be it powerful from subtly or motion.

But I digress, for this primary focus on being an artistic experience (not sure what else to call it, just bear with me though) isn't worth sacrificing what could've had some stellar gameplay. Instead, the gameplay is pretty mediocre and highly repetitive. I don't like that.

That's easily achievable as late as 2006, SotC struggled only because it focused too much on the visuals.

People on Sup Forums likes the game, is just a bunch of newfags. I blame the pass of time and how retarded young people are, then again most of them vote for Bernie Sanders so they are a lost cause.

Breaking news: Videogame character is attacked by enemies within the game.

Stay tuned. Captain obvious will be back with more at 11!

Fuck off I grew up mostly on Playstation games
>underage
I'm 20

See? It's just the retarded Generation Z children who hate it.

I thought those that liked this game consisted of mature intellectuals whom consumed only the fine art of the videogames medium.

See, you are fucking retarded. You can't even understand simple game design. No wonder Sup Forums is never taken seriously, most you are fucking 15 year old that know nothing about anything but you believe are hot shit for being a contrarian.

I played it enough to climb to the secret garden, I think like three or four playthroughs to get enough stamina. I though you could get all the way up the tower but then it ended at the garden. At least I got to run on the bridge I guess

You are still a fucking millennial. Go vote for Bernie Sanders or vote to Stay in the UK, you fucking cuck.

"Generations" are literally meaningless, extremely contrived, categorizations with sweeping statements and assumptions on each generation that don't make sense.

Anyway, attack my arguments not my age.

Those that like it consist largely of gamers. Those that hate it are contrarian faggots who're either pissed about console exclusivity or are too young and balk at the PS2 graphics.

I don't vote since I dislike both ends.

Sure, let me just guess which arguments on this anonymous board were yours. The only post we know for sure is yours is the "i'm 20!" one.

What does it's release date have to do with anything? The game came out in late 2005 - after games like MGS3, Half-Life 2, RE4, and a bunch of others raised the fuck out the bar for gaming during the late years of the 6th gen. And many of those games were way more polished and ambitious than SotC ever was. Try your le underage maymay XD garbage elsewhere, dipshit.

Remember to point out your fucking post when you are complaining about people not addressing your arguments, this is an anonymous image board you fucking retard. Not neogaf or some other forum with user names.

For all we know that was your first post in the thread.