So what's a trapper that can do some damage?

So what's a trapper that can do some damage?

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all of them deal shitty damage

fuck

now that everyone can dome, the trapper is obsolete.

There is so little places to hide as a monster

crow has the least shittest damage

I disagree. They're still the only ones with monster finding functions, global scan aside. I understand they even removed Bucket's head drone to this end. I haven't played many trappers but I feel Griffin's sound spikes are best for this so far

>he doesn't stop monsters cold before they can hurt the medic/support character

With the new changes the balance is completely fucked and Abe has become easily the best trapper. Can constantly keep the monster moving slow as well as keep track of it the entire game. I wish I had reasons to pick other trappers but now Abe is simply the best.

CROW has the best damage but you need to be good with aim since it is pretty shitty weapon in terms of fire rate/handling.

Next comes ABE since shotgun is super-easy to handle and hard to miss

Maggie/Jack are the worst.

You want damage? Wasteland Maggie has fire with all her things.
Her burst SMG has fire, Daisy has a flamethrower, her harpoon ligts the Monster on fire.
Plain and simple ebonics, she fire.

>With the new changes the balance is completely fucked and Abe has become easily the best trapper. Can constantly keep the monster moving slow as well as keep track of it the entire game. I wish I had reasons to pick other trappers but now Abe is simply the best.


Correct. I've been telling this since day 0 Evulva went f2p. Some retard who were bragging about how he devastated something "ESL" whatever it is tried to argue with me kek

Just posting this vid for the intro.
Hyde is the best hunter.

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>mine dropper what fires missiles wif flame throwas on 'em
wasted potential

Hyde is the best all around hunter since his main weapon Flamethrower less limited by the range than MArkov's yet still does A LOT of damage unlike any long-ranged from Parnell/LENNOX/Torvald

The minigun is decent too, the only debatable thing is poison grenades - they do little to none damage unlike OP landmines but at the same time they are easy to use/cover more ground.

>This fucking intro conversation
Oh many this is fucking great

Meanwhile we also got this edgebot.
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Gotta say tho that i like that fucker cuz he brings a bit of a twist in the conversations

I love the convo between Slim and Abe when they start quoting movie lines and become best friends. Only heard it once though, and can't find any vids of it, it's the best one too ;_;

That drone is fucking insane

It is actually quite common convo, heard it few times.


Banter like that is one of the greatest things Eolve has. More games need these.

>It is actually quite common convo
You stop lying! You stop that right now!

Crow and Abe in theory
Waggie with DoT perks in practice

>I HAVE HELLFIRE MISSLES AND THEY'RE COMING FOR YOUR MOM!
I laughed at this for some reason.
Yeah, banter's great.
Vermintide is another great example of it.

Yes user
4 characters that means 6 possible conversations
that means 15-16% chance to get convo with Slim and Abe

There ar no specific rarity for dialogues, they all are random

You're forgetting every other character in the game as well who aren't Slim and Abe. Gotta factor them into your equation as well.

user, are you retarded.
You start a game with SLIM and ABE in your party that means you have 100/60%chances to get the spoken convo

pardon., 100/6

Yeah but if 1 person chooses Slim and the Trapper isn't Abe you're fucked, and vice-versa. That's a bigger chance than getting the convo.

start custom match and assemble your own hunter team? repeat 6 times?

>Abe
>Best
Nigger, what?
>One mis-aimed Grenade means the Monster will be sailing off into the wild again
>Useful as fuck for combat, but so is any harpoon
>His tracking dart requires you to first SEE the fucker and then land a hit
>Shotgun does alright damage

In comparison to Griffin.
>Sound Spikes basically mean that after one loop at most, you'll always know where the monster is
>Harpoon gun means the monster literally can't jump away and will stay stuck until they deal with it, which unless it's an AI means they have to turn around and slap it, breaking their strides and then you have time to get another shot off assuming your team stops attacking
>Don't even need anything else with planetary scan

Crow and Mcree slow the monster down.

Sound Spikes are utterly useless (just like Jack's Sattelite) now that you have Planet Scanner. However, Abe' darts are utter OP because they don't just telegraph where monster is, they allow your team to plan more strategically where to catch it OR, if you are desperate, you can dome him and manage to avoid getting fucked 1vs1 while the rest of the team catching up.

Harpoon is utterly useless since just like with maggie's harpoon it takes one lazy swing for the monster to get free and then instantly soar away. Most of the people who are experienced as a Monster no longer just waste the hit but they also capable of combining the hit with the intent not just break free but to hit some hunter nearby. Harpoons in any way only usable against absolute noon monsters. Experienced players rejoice when hunter makes a terrible choice to pick up a trappe1r with harpoon.


As for:
>His tracking dart requires you to first SEE the fucker and then land a hit
And? I don't understand the problem with that, you constantly see fucker in the distance and the tracking dart gun has actually LONGEST shoot range except any rifles. It literally comes as a second long-range weapon in the game. And if you are terrible at mouse aim well sorry then no hunter will save faggot like you. In fact, quit any competitive FPS at once you failure.

>Shotgun does alright damage
Yes, it does. So what's your point? Did you just add it to make your pile of bulletin points make more solid? Because it only show how weak your augmentation is: ALL the hunters are bad at damage and it is pointless to try to bring this as an argument in any way.

>One mis-aimed Grenade means the Monster will be sailing off into the wild again

Just shows how terrible you are.
Sure, they are harder to use than Crow's stasis gun but they are more powerful than spoken gun.

You just suck as a trapper and that is.

Additionally, Monster can't get rid of a dart but can break the spikes

Crow 4 life

To listen to one convo? I'm not autistic, sorry.

You were autistic enough to look for it on YT and complain about lack of it ion Sup Forums:

>Only heard it once though, and can't find any vids of it, it's the best one too ;_;

how to kill wraith?

Griffin is definitely the best. Abe is good but griffin is a little better and more important in the team aspect. A good griffin can harpoon to slow down monsters and save teammates during attacks. Also, sound spikes put in strategic locations can basically tell you where the monster is no matter what. This is coming from somebody who's favorite characters are abe and griffin.

alt+f4

You only have a chance of winning if the guy is a noob and your team is good enough to understand how to combat Wraith. Otherwise it is dead end.

Ignore all the bragging "I win every match against Wraith" here, it just really pathetic see these people lying on anonymous imageboard in the Internet (kek).

Wraith been OP since day0 she was introduced and still is. Most common mistake people still do is falling for Decoy. When she does that - you need to ignore the false copy and only look for the real version, otherwise she will be cycling like tthat in the arena, spawning Decoy and deluding you while Dome time is ticking.
However, knowing this won't really help you against a player who know how to play it. Once he notices you see through his trick he will change tactic: instead of running away he will be fighting alongside his decoy and concentrate on the same hunter that is being attacked by Decoy. This is where myth "Wraith is a no-damage dealer" quickly being debunked as she can easily KO the Assaulkt in one go and no medic can save it.

Basically there is no way around her tricks and your only chances are good team of hunters who can quickly capture her before evolving and monster player committing few common errors.

But if you ended up against someone who knows how to play as Wraith - your team skill does not matter at all.

That makes it a unicorn, user. It's special to me, it's elusive. If I wanted to listen to all the convos I'd do what you say and create custom lobbies, or watch the vids online.
Other anons posted vids of their convos, am I not allowed to want to post mine? Or is it that I spent a few minutes searching for a vid that probably doesn't exist make you think that searching for things makes people autistic?

Harpoons are the best wraith buster. Griffin hitting a wraith with a harpoon is basically a gg unless the wraith is really really good.

>Other anons posted vids of their convos, am I not allowed to want to post mine?
we rebbit now

Having played Abe, Griffin, and Maggie I can also safely say that Griffin by far has the best monster finding ability, as well as best kit overall. He's a beast. Make sure to switch to the rifle instead of reloading the harpoon, as Evolve auto-reloads.

Harpoons are utterly useless against Wraith, it is a common myth.

In the battle, you hardly see Wraith being in one place enough for Maggie harpoons to be useful. As for Griffin, she is fasr enough to vagiate in dome from one end to another in half of a second and if it is particularly complex terrain Griffin will never catch up with her .Remember, you need to be on solid ground to use Griffin's harpoon otherwise it just won't stick in 90% of the time (but you still can shoot it weird they never fixed it).
And the worst part is that she can move while in her attacking Nova state and it take only one hit to break any trap bound which means she never actually wastes any hit to free themselves if by some miracle you managed to catch her in harpoon.

So yeah, as I said it is pointless

>Sound Spikes are utterly useless (just like Jack's Sattelite) now that you have Planet Scanner.
Do you even /know/ what the sound spikes are like m8? They pinpoint the monster's location reliably, and at a distance. As compared to Abe's much less functional (but still quite nice) tracking, which the monster can shake by running off far enough.

>Harpoon is utterly useless since just like with maggie's harpoon it takes one lazy swing for the monster to get free and then instantly soar away.
That's why you harpoon outside it's optimal attack arch you utter retard.

You sound like a shitter. I've never had problems with harpooning wraith and it's harder for her to break the chain than it is for most monsters.

>Do you even /know/ what the sound spikes are like m8? They pinpoint the monster's location reliably, and at a distance. As compared to Abe's much less functional (but still quite nice) tracking, which the monster can shake by running off far enough.
Yes, I know, I played Griffin before. His Sound Spikes have a very limited range that is marked on the map.
I don't understand the point of your remark, it is not a counter-argument to my statement.

>That's why you harpoon outside it's optimal attack arch you utter retard.
You are the one who is retard because you failed to read. I never said anything about Monster hitting trapper, Feel free to re-read.

>I've never had problems with harpooning wraith
kek
Are you the same "I won against multiple ESL champions" guy?

Please tell us more stories about how cool are you, we are all eager to listen to random user cool stories on Sup Forums.

They all totally true!

His sound spikes are god tier especially on the smaller maps. I find you can get almost more than 50% of the map covered which basically pinpoints the monsters location. I find harpooning into the back of a monster a good way to make it so they have to completely turn around and attack your chain which saves a teammate from getting that same attack.

I'm not great at this game but I mean I find wraith easier to harpoon than a speedy kraken. Wraith has been nerfed constantly and isn't even the best monster right now I don't understand what you're going on about with it being unbeatable, it's strange. I came across a guy who thought kraken was unbeatable today too, it's wierd. It's commonly known that the hunters are more powerful than all the monsters right now and it's been that way for a while. A competent team of equal skill to the monster player the hunters will always win.

Hey Sup Forums coming back to this game. Had something like 70 hours before I quit. Are the buff spawns the same? I remember being able to just know the buff locations and 1v4 the hunters once they drop out of the ship waiting for them. Is it still possible if you know what you are doing or monsters got nerfed to hell?

Certain albinos don't spawn until later in the game.
You can get the ravager from the beginning but the sloth doesn't spawn until like ten minutes in.

>everyone can dome
Are you serious? Atleast on release the game was balanced fuck

>His sound spikes are god tier especially on the smaller maps.
Sure, make me a list of these smaller maps where they can be useful. I know only one: The Dam

>I find you can get almost more than 50% of the map covered which basically pinpoints the monsters location
if you have a luxury to strategically pin-point your Spikes while chasing the monster, especially someone like Kraken or Wraith - believe me you don't even need to do so because apparently the Monster is utter retard and you can kill him blindfolded. In other case he is already stage 2 and ready to stage up while you were taking your sweet time to be useful Griffin kek. People like you is the reason I'm 10/10 Monster wins in Ranking Matches.

>Wraith has been nerfed constantly and isn't even the best monster right now I don't understand what you're going on about with it being unbeatable, it's strange.
Oh, user, I don't know.
Let me think about it for a second.
Oh right.
May be the fact questions like that:
constantly pop-up not just in Anonymous Image Board web-sites but also official Steam forums and TurtleRock Talk Conference? it is one of the most common topic and you often see people just leave the game when Monster is Wraith.

But feel free to prove me wrong. Evolve is fp2 now. Make a throwaway account and go win against Wraith with pubbers, record the games. Then assemble the team of people you know and I will let you know a guy who is good (just go,d not even god tier, he just knows how to play as her that is...) at Wraith. Since I'm generous you will have infinite amount of tries to win against him until he gets vored with another set of pretentious hunters kek.

it is not easy to pull off in out age of interwebs, c'mon

There's a general (/evog/) now too btw.

>graphics card went kaput and have to wait for an email back from sapphire to see if they'll cover it on warranty

Favorite support while I could play was Sunny, do pubs understand what the jetpack beam does yet?

No it wasn't and its death proves so.
It was a borefest - it turns out people find it annoying to chase the monster around the map constantly until finally trapper will catch up and manages to catch the monster with first try

Abe does good damage and is overall one of the best Trappers.

Not as useful as Hank's shield though

I've won most my games against wraith it's been nerfed the hardest but I'm going to give up trying to convince you because you will just leave when you get matched against a wraith player anyway because you are shitty (you probably even like to play as slim and kala LMFAO). Go to evog and try making a post like this and see how you fare because their autism won't rest knowing your wrong like mine will.

Griffin's best hunter IMO. Having him, Hank, and Val can be a nightmare for the monster. You're trying to kill the medic who's being shielded and whenever you try to get to her, Griffin can stop you mid traversal.

Anyway, Have some concept art.

>but I'm going to give up trying to convince you
As expected
No that you could.

Sunny is better than Hank with a good team, Hank just carries retards better than Sunny.

Remember it's because you are too close minded and your only argument is
>Everybody complains this character is too hard so it is waaah
Even when presented with ways to counter said character, have fun slim!

Nope.
With Hank + relaod bonus you can constantly shield all your teammates. once the manual shield depleted you can use Ability the a little bit of cutter and switch back to manual Shield again due to fast recharge rate. In most cases no one will ever get a strike in your team.

And Sunny can do weaker shields while giving Jetpack boosts.
Sunny is better with a good team, Hank is better at carrying retards who can't dodge.

>Francis: I hate monsters
Nice.

Nope, Hank is better in both cases and in good team he is god tier. Does not matter what Stage monster is. Might as well wait beside the relay and crack jokes for few minutes until Monster shows up.

>now that Evolve went into desperate f2p we will never see even half of the remaining concepts

Hyde used to be a monster
still is

Most likely just different race/alien like SLIM (altho SLIM just has altered DNA)

We do kinda have Monster - that support woman forgot her name, she has monster DNA and will turn eventually

Kala. Nobody likes
kala, whiny cunt she is.

I want to do lewd things to wraith

I dunno user I'm kinda curious what is between her legs now, after mutation.

somewhat weird alien baginas is my fetish

>that waist wiggle and movement
sexy beast she is and she knows it

Man, I love Kala's design and concept. I'm not entirely sold on her kit yet though, it seems like her shield-removing ability is redundant? Outside of finishing a wounded monster off, or getting more crucial damage on low HP monsters it seems like most fights will eventually remove the shield of the monster anyway, making it useless.

The teleporters are also extremely hit & miss, with a focus on the latter. Nobody ever utilizes Kala's teleporter, it's rare for even herself to do so at my level of play. And it's not just communication, trying to encourage people through voice usually doesn't work.

>it seems like her shield-removing ability is redundant?
The point is to make staging of the monster useless since when it reaches stage 3 it just a matter of time for him to wipe out whole team and this time being dictated by health bar length. Direct damage to healthbar make final fight easier.

That is in theory.

>The teleporters are also extremely hit & miss, with a focus on the latter. Nobody ever utilizes Kala's teleporter, it's rare for even herself to do so at my level of play. And it's not just communication, trying to encourage people through voice usually doesn't work.
That too.

It really just the matter of good team work when you and your team have a working set of tactics with her onboard. In pubs she is uselsss

If you directly damage the health bar, the dome goes down faster. You could argue that it's easier to 'win' a dome that way, but it's high risk since you're sacrificing the equivalent of Hank's or Sunny's shield in order to do so.

At the end of the day the dome goes down just as early anyway, and bypassing the armor just /saves the monster time/ so that if he loses, he just loses quicker, and can have more time to feed and evolve for the stage 3 fight.

Abe partnered with Parnell and Val are absolute mad men

>that literal u wot m8
Hyde BEST hunter

>If you directly damage the health bar, the dome goes down faster. You could argue that it's easier to 'win' a dome that way, but it's high risk since you're sacrificing the equivalent of Hank's or Sunny's shield in order to do so.
My point is to have monster with little HP at the end even if at stage 3. He HAS to go for relay and you don't need to use dome until all his armor depleted. THEN you can dome him and since he already has low HP it makes things rather easy from now on

I've been playing Evolve since it went f2p and I've been loving it so far. I'm also getting better with every match. However, I still don't understand everything. Maybe some founders / more experienced players could help?

>How does the timer work? I know it's paused when the monster is domed, but sometimes it seems to be paused randomly.
>What dictates how long the dome is going to hold? I know there's a timer, but I've yet to see a dome last for the entirety of its timer. Is it damage against the hunters? Or damage against the monster?
>How do teleporters work? How do I use a teammate's teleporter?

Dome lasts until either the monster's shield breaks and you get a few licks in, or when something like two hunters are downed, whichever comes first.

>>How does the timer work? I know it's paused when the monster is domed, but sometimes it seems to be paused randomly.
You mean match timer? It is going on as long as you don't fight the monster. Once you engage it in the battle it stops.

>How do teleporters work? How do I use a teammate's teleporter?
Kala's teleporter? Dunny myself never bothered really

Should I play Warframe or Evolve?

>>How does the timer work?
When the Hunters are within a certain range and damage the Monster the timer pauses; OR!!! when the Monster deals damage to the Hunters the timer pauses.
>>What dictates how long the dome is going to hold?
When the Monster takes a certain amount of HP damage (4% at lvl 1, 6.5% at lvl 2, 8% at lvl 3) the dome drops; OR!!! if a Hunter is downed, 3.5 minutes is taken off the dome timer.
>>How do teleporters work?
Think of Portal (or Portal 2). The purple teleporter goes to the orange teleporter and vice-versa. Any Hunter can go through them, and the Monster can destroy them after a few hits.
Dunno how people don't understand teleporters... I feel like there's more to that question.

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so is there any reason not to play griffin? the harpoon seems pretty good for helping teammates not die and the sound spikes seem good for tracking him. what's better?

Warfarm has more content that you can solo the majority of

I think Abe and Griffin are about on equal footing. Griffin has a bit more utility, while Abe does a bit more damage.

Isn´t it semi-confirmed from Karla that Monsters are just humans who got fucked / from another dimension?
I never understand any of the stupid bio talk Karla and Caira do on the dropship.

Wraith was clearly a humanoid female at some point, soo....

Which is more fun?

>poison bombs
>bad
>minigun
>good
my average game I get 4-6k damage with the bomb and maybe 100 damage with the minigun. you need to throw the bombs when they're up and throw them to where the monster will be, not where it is. the only time you should use the minigun is to take potshots after a dome when the monster runs even then you should still use the flamethrower and jet pack boosts as much as possible though.

for perks use bronze item swap and silver+gold poison rounds.

Your ideas for a new monster?
Your expectations on the Wraith Variation?
When can I finally play as Behemoth?

Dont pay attention to that faggot, warframe its fucking horrible at its core

Considering you're not at the mercy of your team in Warfarm, it has objectively more fun points. Games aren't even similar, though. Well, apart from both being online shooters with grind

And Evolve's better?

attack it's weak point for massive damage.

just try both and see what you like. some people like warframe and some hate it, same with evolve. they're both free to play so why the hell not just dl them both

Its more fun thats for sure, it suffers from the same problem of no endgame but its acceptable since its a pvp game

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