Post-EVO thread

This past EVO made one thing clear, Smash has no place here. This is a fighting game event. Mechanics that games like Street Fighter and Virtua Fighter gave birth to are the pillars of the event. It should be a celebration to fighting games. Instead it's the organizers selling out to the highest bidder no matter relevancy. Smash shouldn't take almost half the running time of the main stage when it's one fucking series that is barely a fighting game.

Where are the games like Virtua Fighter, Third Strike, KoF, Blazblue, DoA5 and Soul Calibur? Why are these games being pushed aside for what is something that is really just a party game for kids and manchildren?

>b-but Melee brings in big crowds

Do you know what else brings in big crowds? MOBAs and FPS. Does that mean that EVO should know host Overwatch and DOTA next? No, that doesn't. So shut the fuck up with this argument. At this rate, EVO Japan is looking to be everything that EVO USA is failing at.

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MrWizard is a fat sellout fuck. Expect Overwatch next year as the only fighting game that will remain will be SF.

>Melee got 219k viewers and SFV got less than 200k

No... this can't be happening bros... SFV was meant to be THE best fighting game of all time and the whole of top 8 was boring Nash mirror matches... it was fucking tedious bros.. even memelee was way more hype with the reset in grand finals.

What the fuck do we do now SFV bros? How do we recover from this?

This year's evo was shit. You can't prove me wrong.

>mad Smashbabby who will never watch his game on national television

SFV had a total of 260k not counting the 500k+ on national TV, you smelly autist.

I really enjoyed GG top 8, better than last year for sure. Other games were kind of boring

>implying SF5 isn't a half baked game with nickel and diming out the ass

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>Capcucks and sonyggers mad

Delicious tears

Accidently quoted yourself, Smash autist. Maybe the smell of shit coming from you is obstructing your senses.

I do like smash, but I wouldn't mind getting rid of both melee and sm4sh to bring back KoF and Blazblue.
Smash still has Apex, Genesis, and other events to go to.

This years Evo has shown me that capcom are the biggest Jews to ever live.
and that KOF 14 and Tekken 7 look fucking great.
melee final was surprisingly enjoyable considering i don't like the game much.

>EVO Japan
>everyone plays actual games
>no tranny degenerates and BLM dindus
>no forced costume selection because nips aren't sensitive little bitches
>no shitty party games because nips actually bothered to learn Virtua Fighter
>only pure fighting games

Bring it on baby

>no tranny degenerates and BLM dindus
Kayo will be there.

EVO Japan already confirmed smash, only smash 4 though no melee.

At least you will never be as destroyed as this guy was.

www.twitter.com/aprescott11

source?

GAY

>being this fucking upset and possessive over "e-sports"

time to seriously consider suicide, friendo

>i'm sweating in anger

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Evo gained nearly 85k viewers from melee and then lost 40k when melee ended. Melee needs to be the main event desu.

How did melee do on espn?

Tourneyfaggotry is a mistake.
No matter if it's about fighting games, MOBAs or shooting games. Tourney bring the worst from every videogame fan. Endless shitposting, shitfliging, console wars, absolutely embarassing arguments about the "superiority" of a series over another (or even of a game over another in the same series). And let's not get started to talk about the praise some literally who idiots get just for playing a videogame in frint of an even dumber crowd. Nobodies that pretend to be some kind of high caliber celebrity. And YOU faggots eat their shit and suck their dicks.

It's horrible. Competitive gaming is a big mistake. Purge it away before it's too late.

I'm gonna be real with you. I feel similarly. I personally very much enjoy smash, but it feels slightly out of place at Evo especially with other more deserving fighters like KoF being pushed to the side for it.

mr wizard said he was so impressed with melee he was considering it
also smash 4 is getting dropped next year because of zero being a whinging autist

so you're saying 85k tuned in for melee and the other 120k were just waiting for it to end and just left twitch open? interesting

SF has had tournaments for several decades just fine. Competitive gaming is fine so long as its done by the fans for the fans. And not for massive normalfag audiences.

It's McRib's fault for being a jew.

>ESPN2
>international television
Let me just order that sports package to watch my 3 hour vidya snore fest on the liquid crystal jew

Someone post the collage

DON'T GIVE A FUCK. BOB IS COMING TO TEKKEN 7 MEANWHILE CAPCOM ANNOUNCES 25 AMERIBUX DLC WITH JUST A STAGE AND 4 COSTUMES

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but Kayo is pure and Cummy is her waifu

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Evo is whatever Mr. Wizard wants it to be. Start your own locals if you have a certain ideology in mind. I've done it, it's not hard. In a couple years you can host weeklies with 100+ entrants.

Don't forget that 200k of viewers watching during melee top 8 were just waiting for SFV to start

It didn't

>source: my ass

Also I don't see Sm4sh being dropped as long as Nintendo is sticking with their minimal and largely symbolic efforts at supporting their games

>watching television

So in other words, 40k people actually tuned in and out for melee while the others were literally just waiting for SFV to start.

Good to know that melee's numbers are constantly misconstrued and when it is proven otherwise, ala smashbabbys simply plug their ears and scream until nobody cares to put up with them anymore and drops the conversation.

Is there more?

yeah that's why genesis 3 (a smash only tourney) got 110k by iself

stay mad capcuck

>Instead it's the organizers selling out to the highest bidder no matter relevancy.
Are you going to pretend like Street Fighter was never apart of the bidding war?

People tend to not think it's a fighting game because it was not intended to be taken to a competitive level.

It's like saying just because the writer of a movie didn't intend it to be a comedy, then it CAN'T be a comedy. It's a false sense of logic.

Smash is simply what you perceive it to be. In my perception, it is both a party game for casuals and friends, while also having the ability to be a competitive fighting game. Some may have high standards for this of course, which can switch their perception.

>pretending people care about espn2
>can't even top melee on twitch with finale timeslot
>21% viewer drop from Evo 2015
Your game is dying, friend.

No one watches TV and the number of viewers on Twitch went down after Melee ended.

One person isn't going to cause the removal of a game.

My problem with Melee is the community. It's horribly whiny and utterly pathetic, and I lost all hype when it was Armada and Hungrybox yet again with Armada being sad crybaby when autismo supreme HB won

I'm fine with the furry community getting their party game on stage but if they get to call it competitive I get to call Mario Kart competitive.

>Game's life is based on viewers rather than number of people playing

Esports was a mistake

Armada is way more of an autist than Hbox.

Hbox is a redditor normie supreme, has a hot gf, close friends, a good job, and generally people outside of the melee community like him. Ironically he is disliked much more within the Melee-sphere itself.

I was disappointed in Nash Mirrors out the wazoo too, but god damn they were fucking good.
L.I. Joe put on the best fights of the entire weekend out of all the games. Infiltration was stick, and Fuudo was super exciting to watch as Mika. I watched nearly the entirety of EVO and was most hyped during SF5 top 8 with Joe.
Besides, Infiltration is taking up Juri soon anyway I think so one less Nash.

>furry community
I dont get it, MK has been on EVO for years now.

I like playing smash, but damn is its community fucking stupid. HBox is better off.
I also agree that Smash should just make its own event, but the smash community seems to be so desperate for attention they wouldn't be satisfied with their own major smash event without it being at Evo.

>tfw work full time
>tfw I will never be good at fighting games

it's a strange and suffering feeling.

The Netherrealm scene has got to step their fucking game up. I'd be fucking embarrassed the best player in my scene is a unabashed open furry like Sonicfox. Same with Pokken

>not getting 5min hand warmies from mummi every set

pfft, are you even a smash god?


Really tho no other fucking game in the entire event gets away having its 15 year old version on main stage

>thread is OP crying and whining about Melee
>"Melee is always the same", even though top 8 had 8 characters, Hbox won his first Evo, last two majors were won by Mango and Leffen
>Sleep fighter had 2 characters in top 8 and Infiltration won it like always
Well memed.

Smash already has its own majors which are even better handled than EVO.
Its still at EVO because lol money mr.wizard loves that money

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I'm astonished that Melee is more focused on barging into other events when having their own big-event with just Melee would both be faster and honestly more hype. They pull enough entrants now that it's easily possible

Not true at all, plus Meleefags generally understand that EVO is it's own spectacle and are just grateful to be part of it.

If Melee left EVO, yes it would be bad from a publicity standpoint, but the vast majority of players wouldn't mind as there are plenty of grassroots majors (and supermajors, e.g. Big House, Genesis, etc).

SFV was pretty meh, the best tjing this year was T7, KoFXIV, GG, and Melee

Pokken's EVO 2016 grand champ was damn good though.

>implying I said melee was always the same
>implying I have to like HungryBox just because he won his first Evo
>implying the consensus was SF stopped its hype after LI Joe got eliminated

Thanks bud

As much as I love fightan games, I'm nowhere near a high-level player in any of them. Smash was the reason I went to EVO this year, playing SF was just an added bonus.

They can't do shit. SonicFox will continue winning in Injustass 2.

Yet smash has been at EVO for in some capacity for over 8 years or so on and off.
Really you whiny faggots on Sup Forums need to shut the fuck up unless you're at the event, which I'm sure if you were you'd probably enjoy anything going on.

>Melee is more focused on barging into other events

No offense, but this is just a retarded thing to say. Mr. Wizard is the one that hosts the biggest fighting game tourney in the world. He invited Smash, he made the donation drive originally. How the fuck do you not take the opportunity to get into the biggest fighting game even there is?

Like holy shit, you can rag on their behavior sometimes, but if Wizard takes their money than you only have one person to be sour at.

Netherrealm has reached a point where they can't foster their communities consistently anymore. MKX has been out for what? Two years? Now it won't be there next year in favor of Injustice 2, plus Mortal Kombat is no longer the juggernaut it was in the late 90's.

Some games like Marvel have died down a fair amount over the years, where as MK has just been dead for a while

Maybe it has something to do with it consistently getting 2nd place in terms of views since 2013.

If SSF2T got over 200k every year it was featured, you'd best believe it'd be on the main stage too.

He's also a sperglord who openly admits on Twitter he wanted to promote Braixen so she can get more hentai.


Shit like this is why people think gamers are total fucking creeps

Do you know where you are?

Has sales increased because of the normalfag ESPN sports broadcast?

sales will increase when the game becomes as good as USF4 (it's still good, but not quite there yet).

>tfw Nintendo had their chance to be absolutely based by blocking Melee back in 2013

Melee was there once in 2007, then wasn't there again until 2013 and it's been there since. I wouldn't call that "8 years on and off" unless by some capacity you mean the BYOC area where there are a ton of games

Defend this.

Hard to tell, since it's not even been a full day since EVO. SFV does appear on the top sellers list on steam right now (6th place).

>This past EVO made one thing clear
How so?

Yeah the "Nash out the ass" syndrome was really bad, but that's because of the limited roster. Hopefully by next EVO it'll be a lot more diverse since I expect season 2 to be partly released by then too. I only caught bits and pieces of the preliminaries but I enjoyed seeing a few Ibukis in there instead of constant Chuns and Cammys..

Did they fix 8 frames yet?

Western fighting games are almost as bad as Smash

Reminder that SF5 got on TV because it got over 5k entrants, and because Sony and Capcom actively pushed and paid for it.

If Nintendo were to to do something like then you can bet your ass they would go with Sm4sh instead of Melee

Ever smash Tourney I've ever seen has been a clusterfuck. I doubt its ran better than Evo, not that I'm claiming Evo did a good job with smash, considering how large the event was overall, I'd say it went pretty well.

>tfw Meleefags raised so much hell that Nintendo changed their mind and let it happen anyways

This is the difference between being an alpha and being a cuck.

Grassroots for life.

>and because Sony and Capcom actively pushed and paid for it.
evo did

So what you're saying is that Nintendo is run by cucks

When Nintendo gets the hype surrounding Melee then they'd be stupid not to go to ESPN

He tried.

Genesis was ran fantastically, and that had 2000 people. Also Big House is always run great - Juggle Rob is a godly TO. There have definitley been bad Smash tourneys tho, from Apex, to HTC Throwdown, to anything hosted by MVG, etc.

I can't.

That filthy muzzie playing Kotal Kahn should have sacked up and whooped his ass.

>Nintendo
>supporting Melee

Pick one. Seriously, Nintendo is always going to push Sm4sh over Melee because its a game that's currently on store shelves on a console still available at retail.

Ask any Melee player and they'll tell you Nintendo has never been super supportive.

Seriously fuck this guy. He's such a disgrace. I hope in 20 years when he's an old man he looks back and realizes how big a faggot he looked.

I'm saying that meleefags were alpha enough to tell Nintendo to go fuck themselves after being ignored for most of the decade.

Name one other community that was able to pull off something like that.

>Melee
Melee s fucking dead and dust. I'm happy for HBox but fucking kill this game already and move on.

>the salty tears from butthurt nerds online when they see self-actualized adults criticizing the presence of video games (a toy for CHILDREN) on ESPN2

Soooo much nerd persecution complex desu senpai

Tekken Master at least made Sonic sweat a lot, to the point his furry shit got in the way of him playing the damn game.

The only reason Melee is still alive in any form is because of esports.