>Have the technology for infinite ammo in weapons >Decide to go back to clip based weapons in the sequel >Somehow, within two years the entire galaxy, from all the military forces in the galaxy down to the smallest street punk, downgraded back to clip based weapons
Its simply they don't care if autists flip out over "lore" or "canon" shit. They know it will sell regardless
Elijah Miller
Thermal clips prevent overheating, and are a better alternative, although i'd prefer if you could fire your gun ME1-style when you run out of clips.
William Roberts
They are not a better alternative at all. When you max your abilities and have the best stuff in the galaxy you barely ever overheat, whereas you can run out of thermal clips pretty easily. Being able to shoot forever vs having to reload, I don't know you you can think reloading is superior. Also, sabotage tech skill lets you overheat ennemy weapons so clips don't prevent shit.
Isaiah Bell
even if this was true, do you honestly think its even remotely feasible to replace ALL the guns in the entire GALAXY to thermal clip based within the span of only 2 years?
Daniel Anderson
Sheperd even knows about clips when he wakes up even though clips weren't around before he dies (first thing he asks Miranda is where to find clips for the gun)
Jaxson Jackson
EA is just a problem on the management and financial side of Bioware.
The plot, characters and all that is the fault of Bioware's own incompetent writers.
Evan Hall
Have you ever licked your own anus?
Wyatt Ward
But are they clips or magazines?
Jacob Anderson
So? how does it change the fact that everybody swapped from non-clip to clip based within the two year gap between the end of ME1 and his death at the start of ME2.
Henry Wright
this is the kinda thing that only bothers you if you're autistic as fuck
Robert Lee
why yes, I do play Dwarf Fortress religiously.
Lucas Davis
Pretty much this, OP.
Isaac Turner
except gameplya wise it isn't the base gun in ME1 had enough heating room to shoot 7 times, the sniper 1 time
all weapons were tuned to have the same virtual mag size.
they just changed it because they wanted to attract the shooter audience, get rid of the code behind this just for a regular check of the ammo before any action, they were just lazy
Parker Richardson
i wish they would fix kingdom of amalur >top up 10 quid more on ps account for yakuza 5 >check out sale >kingdom of amalur >okay >get to third village >can't sell items >can't drop items >can't destroy items >can't pick up items >can't trade items >look it up, i was fucked
i raged, mass effect went retard but it worked
Cameron Lewis
>Jacob's dad has been stranded on a desolate planet ruling as King Rape for ten years with absolutely no outside contact >Thermal clips still everywhere
Jack Gonzalez
It doesn't, I was pointing out that it was retarded too.
Luis Allen
That game isn't made by bioware.
Ayden Morales
>clip I believe it is you who is retarded
Grayson Collins
>Just ran out of thermal clips >Can't fire the weapon one more time even though it should still be able to. >Can't just choose to wait for the heat to vent out after as an option
David Murphy
>Clips are universal! >Run out of clips on your favorite gun >Can't swap it from your secondary
FUCKING BIOWARE.
William Miller
>throwing away thermal clips after you overheat them
fucking stupid
The best of both worlds would be to have 2-3 reusable clips that you cycle between to minimize firing downtime.
Dylan James
Did the technology really change?
When Shepard woke up after being coma-dead for two years, they immediately recognize their gun has no thermal clip. So how does Shepard know about the technology change?
Ethan Brown
>Clips
Mason Rivera
>Thermal clips? We might as well be going back to limited ammunition >they're not ammunition conrad
>doesn't deny its limited
Levi Hall
that shit pissed me off to OP.
I think its the dumbest decision ive ever seen in a videogame.
Christian Watson
Even if it didnt. you're ignoring the simple logistical nightmare that is to change all weapons into thermal clips.
Why would any gun owner decided to change to a clip based gun and therefore be forced to buy ammunition when his gun doesn't have this upkeep cost?
They could have changed it in the months between ME1 and ME2's intro.
Xavier Lopez
It's simple. Gun vendors decided that they could make more money if they came up with the idea of 'thermal clips' (not limited ammunition!) so they could essentially sell ammo too. Even in the year 2200, the Jews stake their claim.
Brayden Lewis
Yes, they cant handle legitimate criticism so they result to mocking us instead.
Isaiah Diaz
>It's not ammunition, Conrad Technically, it's not. Practically, it's the same since you can't fire without them. Are you gonna claim victory over a technicality?
Lucas Watson
That's even less plausible
Gabriel Butler
You take any victory you can take.
Luke Peterson
So did everyone's guns stop working in the span of 2 years?
Caleb Sullivan
Thermal clips are basically them putting game design over lore. Cause ME1s overheating weapons lead to shit combat. At the endof the game you'd be upgraded to tbe point of just holding down the fire button until everything died. I beatvinsanity by just using Marksmen and holding fire. Never even switched off my pistol. All they had to do was have them overheat fast without thermal clips and take a long ass time to cool down, then the only thing they'd be retconning was how easily broken ME1 was.
Jonathan Perry
Maybe not for the whole galaxy, but the galactic elite could have gotten new weapons that quick
Brody Nelson
Oh look a rare tint of truth
Cameron Rodriguez
>Even in the year 2200, the Jews stake their claim You mean the Volus, who are clearly just Alien Jews.
Eli Evans
There's plenty of ways you can explain it away. Given how much power corporations have nowadays, they could well sell their guns on a subscription - pay annually or your gun won't shoot. Then, all they have to do is offer a discount on the 'fresh new model' and retards will flock to it. See: subscription based software models like Office 365. Everything will be subscription based in the future, because that's how corporations can squeeze the most money from you.
Cameron Collins
So how did it trickle down to criminal elements so fast? we see street gang with this technology.
Chase Thompson
They could have made overheating work, that was more of an issue with Marksman and Frictionless Materials being OP as shit.
(Seriously though, did they even test Pistol DPS compared to Assault Rifle DPS in ME1, because that was just sad)
Jayden Collins
>Humans were sneaky enough to get themselves onto the Council within a handful of years >Volus diplomats still picking up coins from the gutter in the streets to get their fill of jewery
Mass Effect series is essentially one big HFY pasta, it makes sense that our jews are more powerful than alien jews.
Elijah Robinson
This is exactly it. There can be no other reason to make such a stupid change.
Jaxon Hill
Beep boop why is she so perfect Sup Forums?
Elijah Wright
She's literally a walking reminder that Bioware is fucked.
Ryder Ortiz
I've finished the whole game 100% and this has never happened to me. You can pick up, destroy and sell items just fine. There is no trading though. Personally, I used cheat engine to give myself infinite bag space and never worried about it afterwards. There are some quest items you won't be able to get rid of due to a bug after that quest is completed but those don't take up space. The game is remarkably non buggy for an open world game.
Luis Taylor
Funny thing is that it actually is called ammunition by the game itself.
Robert James
>can't present any valid in-game arguments since they just switched to clips to appeal to fps dudebros >put valid complaints in the mouth of the most ridiculed character in the setting >the passive aggressive "I'm sure you know better than the in-game organizations!" doesn't actually provide any points and the retard still makes more sense Honestly it's been years and videogame writing still can't beat how pathetic this exchange was.
Grayson Robinson
>clip >CLIP
Anthony Thompson
There's a stranded ship in ME2 and they're full of people who have been stranded for more than two years yet they still use the reload shit
Aiden Baker
>all weapons were tuned to have the same virtual mag size. The point of the clips was to shorten reload speed so people wouldn't have to sit and do nothing while their weapons cooled down.
Jonathan Cook
THIS IS THE BULLSHIT YOU GET MAD AT??!?! NOT THE FACT THAT THEY BASICALLY SCRAPPED WEAPONS AND ARMOR CUSTOMIZATION?
Luke Foster
And they also refer to bullets
Xavier Wood
Reminder that Tyrone's father who was trapped on an island for 10 years had a clip based pistol.
Charles Howard
Also when you visit Jacob's dad on planet rape, everyone there is using thermal clips as well. This is despite the fact that those people were stranded on that planet 8 years before thermal clips were invented and distributed.
Juan Ward
is there anyone who didn't just slap every +damage addon onto his sniper and said "fuck overheating"
Mason Foster
The clips use endothermic chemical reactions to absorb heat.
Ryan Ross
well the Volus had a major disadvantage in that their planet had a fairly irregular form of biochemistry which in turn severely limited their colonization options and growth potential
one of the reasons the humans could force themselves a council spot was their almost aggressive expansion across the galaxy in addition to having a respectable military allowing them to actually take full advantage of an opportunity as it presented itself at the end of ME1
Benjamin Green
That's so much better than the absolutely frictionless components that were used previously that allowed for cooling so efficient that you literally could not overheat the gun no matter how often you fired.
Landon Anderson
They obviously stopped caring about lore and continuity starting with mass effect 2.
Kevin Watson
i did that in me1
my sniper rifle was designed to turn the target into a melted puddle. it was more fun that way
close quarters combat was literally just biotics cast Wormhole/Lift and shoot the fish in the barrel, anyway
Cooper Ward
>getting explosive ammunition upgrade for your sniper such a fantastic feeling there's no kill like overkill
Samuel Carter
>Make one of the best original sci-fi rpg games >Fuck it all up with each sequel
The worst part is everything is set in stone.
Robert Stewart
What really bugs me about Bioware is the recent SJW nonsense. I mean, did they have to remove desire demons?
Alexander Martinez
>M-MUH SJW BOOGIE MAN
Lincoln Foster
I am still mad that we didn't get the original Mass Effect 2 concept.
The Geth were meant to find the wreck of Normandy and bring back Shepard.
Cerberus was never meant to be this fucking huge organization which could have more manpower and funding than the Systems Alliance.
Luis Turner
The weapons in me2 were far more varied than the ones in me1 in spite of the lack of customisation.
Customisation in me1 was trash.
Ryder Roberts
>Putting all damage mods on it since it's going to overheat in 1 shot anyway
Carter Wright
I think it would have been better if ME2 just got a new MC who wasn't Shepard. The disconnect would make it easier to deal with continuity and such.
Sebastian King
haha wrong file.
Tyler Hill
>clips
Ayden Reed
It's alright, but you could have done better. Generic, medium sized chest, nothing really special about her.
Parker Kelly
that pic is probably in my downloads folder somewhere but it could have also been one of those weird cross-post glitches that happens occasionally on this site.
still, dog women are gorgeous.
Tyler Mitchell
They originally intended it as a hybrid system where your weapon would still cool over time but you could use a clip to cool it instantly. Would have been nice.
Adrian Ross
At least when drawn well. I wouldn't say they're the best out there, but they're high up if you're in a breeder sort of mood.
Levi Adams
>retarded
It was same in history I forgot which countries, Austria vs whatever or something, one side got got rekt because despite having guns with more accuracy and range they simply couldn't reload as fast as the worse guns who had reloading from behind instead from front of the barrel.
Same in Mass Effect, you don't really have unlimited ammo but metal block that slowly gets shaved into thousands of metal flakes (read up lore) accelerated by mass effect fields which overheats your weapons with consecutive shots, and while you nigger wait 5 seconds for it to cool down the opposition just switch up heatsink and shoots you, it's more wasteful, but more effective, who gets to shot more shots in shorter time usually wins.
Daniel Long
Pretty sure that's what they're called in-game faggot
Thomas Gonzalez
They wanted the GoW audience and having infinite ammo ain't GoW-like enough. >EA is just a problem on the management and financial side of Bioware. >"Just make it more like GoW, my nephew loves it."
Daniel Parker
Not OP, I think the system would have worked better if it allowed us to switch clips OR wait out the overheating.
Julian Powell
>defending bioware being wrong
the in game anal sex must have been a powerful moment for you
Dylan Perez
Yeah, universal pool with each weapon using different amount of units per shot would make more sense, but it's bioware, it's like complaining about why shits smells, it just do.
Ayden Long
It's not an ammo magazine. They're thermal clips. Meaning it's just coolant to prevent heating. Seriously that's bioware's reasoning.
Juan Turner
Nah. In ME1 you could stack equipment and shit and get to the point where a fast firing and hard hitting assault rifle would just never generate any heat.
HOW DID THE REST OF THE GALAXY NOT SEE THE BENEFIT OF THIS
Nathaniel Nguyen
I agree with you, but I'm just shitosting a time-tested /k/ meme because I'm bored and don't want to run errands today.
I did like the overheat mechanic better though, because it was more future-y
Caleb Phillips
Yes waiting for your weapon to cool down is so much worse than actively needing to reload.
William Turner
They also didn't see the benefit of Immunity for some godforsaken reason.
Benjamin Flores
Do you call that mockery? He's basically putting Shepard in her place and she's just being a stubborn cunt.
Parker Sanders
uhh i am so tired of companies just ass fucking everything the first game did right. Instead of refining and improving they just RIP IT OUT WITH NO INGAME EXPLAINATION AND KILL THE LORE ALONG WITH IT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Bentley Scott
Can't you still implement that by editing an .ini file in ME2? I'm planning to replay the rapelogy once I get through some games in my backlog.
Michael Martin
This
The reason all the casuals love 2 so much.
Levi Butler
Marauder Shields
William Garcia
It's called streamlining. Everything must be made easier and easier so your grandmother can uninroically play the game just as well as you can, because your grandmother has $60 in her bank account too.
Ayden Diaz
Super rare materials?
Jonathan Howard
> wait for weapon to cool while shooting > not have 2-3 guns at all times Come on now...
Adrian Flores
you never need to wait more than 2 seconds for a weapon to fully cool down it's the exact same time than changing a mag.
but they knew their target was going to be retards who full trigger all the time, in case you let your weapon overheat it's longer, and 3 seconds is too much for the average normie
Isaiah Lopez
"I'll be sure to let ever military organization in the galaxy know"
Sounds like they're trying to mock Connrad and by extension us.
Brayden Morales
It is worse when everyone has shields and shields gradually recover whenever you're not shooting on them.