>Implemented a ton of spells/abilities from Diablo 3 to WoW including ray of frost, blessed hammer, divine steed, grappling hook and seismic wave just to name a few >However, purged a bunch of original abilities and spells that have existed since Vanilla through Wotlk >Implemented D3's adventure mode via world quests >Implemented D3's greater rifts mode via mythic keystones >Implemented D3's exact xmog system >Implemented D3's glowing loot effect
Yeah guys, this expansion's going to be great. They're putting so much effort into it.
it's pretty sad that the wow devs have no idea why their game was good originally and are just throwing shit from diablo 3 at it in hopes something will work
Aaron Jackson
The current people in charge are old now and the original creators of what made WoW interesting are long gone.
Just look at PvP and every time Derplinka opens his mouth. I'm convinced that he's either a meme, they have no one better working for them or they flat out just don't care about PvP. I'm not big on PvP anymore today but I feel for the competitive scene people.
Henry Lopez
it doesn't help that the drooling fanboys who defend anything the wow devs do no matter how shitty it is are writing the narrative because they're the only ones still autistic enough to post on the official forums
Ayden Martin
Tbh the more WoW plays like D3 the happier I'll be.
I always liked WoW on a conceptual level but hardly ever actually participated. Especially beyond Vanilla and TBC.
1-5 player content is where it's at.
Some things about WoW I'll never stop being sad about, though, like Vanilla climbing and PvP "balance." Vanilla PTR (PvP) servers were patrician.
Carson Lee
WHY ARE THE SERVERS OFFLINE REEEEEEEEEEE
Gavin Stewart
>1-5 player content is where it's at. Out of curiosity, have you done mythic content or heroic content at all?
Through the madness back during 40 man raids of trying to fill the raid, some of the most memorable moments was from those 40 mans.
5 man groups don't even talk to each other. They press a button on their interface to queue up, plow through the dungeon, leave the group and queue again. Even Mythic 0 is a joke. It doesn't require any kind of thought or coordination.
Easton Reyes
that's like saying "i don't like zelda, i'll be glad when it becomes more like mario"
it's cool that you like mario but the people who originally bought into the idea of zelda don't want it to be like mario, we want it to be like zelda
i don't want to play diablo 3, i want to play wow. blizzard already has a game that plays like diablo 3, it's called diablo 3.
Jackson Miller
>make bait post in wowg >no on replies >make thread on Sup Forums
You're trying too hard.
Nathan Sanchez
They implemented abilities from HotS too.
Benjamin Torres
When Jay Wilson was the director for Diablo 3, he tried implementing features from WoW into Diablo 3 including the Auction House and it failed horribly. After that disaster, for whatever reason they moved him to the Warlords of Draenor team and they lost half of their subscribers.
Coincidence.
Jackson Wilson
No Heroic content snice Cata, no Mythic content.
I don't mean 5 man dungeons are good, though, I mean content you can do with anywhere from 1 to 5 people (friends). Like Diablo. I hadn't heard anything about this World Quests = Adventure Mode thing, but that's what I was mostly direting my sentiment at.
Not saying my tastes aren't completely detrimental and a plague on WoW development, but I just can't handle getting people together and having responsibilities in the game any more.
I want to play WoW, and I want it to be lightly accessible. Regardless of how anyone else feels or reacts to perceived degradation, I'm happy.
Joseph Garcia
it's kind of sad when the discussion in your general is worse than the discussion in Sup Forums
Kevin Wright
Sup Forums is more willing to shit on wow
>the discussion is better when I agree with it
Kayden Diaz
You're exactly right and I don't give a shit. If the people who want "true WoW" are unhappy, but but a minority, so be it.
I'm not going to play 20+ man content, or possibly even 10 man content, so if that's all it is I'm out. If it's small content for me and a few friends with other people in the environment, I'm in.
Just making observasions. Don't feel strongly or threateningly either way.
John Williams
the discussion is just better in general
people are actually talking about the topic instead of posting shit that wouldn't be out of place on an rp server in goldshire
Ryder Perry
I've only been to General a few times but every time I go there it's just a circle jerk of the same people who know each other posting selfies of their characters. /vg/ is just a Reddit without the voting system to me.
Michael Walker
And yet all of you are currently resubbed and pre ordered.
The core problem is still you, Sup Forums
Nicholas Lopez
>If the people who want "true WoW" are unhappy, but but a minority, so be it. we're only a minority because the wow dev team is killing the game
nope
i have friends bugging me to preorder and to resub for prepatch and i'm flat-out refusing
i might check it out a few months after it launches once it's discounted if anyone's still actually playing, but i'm guessing the consensus will be it's shit and i'll end up being glad i skipped out
Jose Butler
>pre-ordered Nope >subbed Strike two I use gold to play
Brandon Robinson
>>Implemented D3's exact xmog system What is D3s mog system?
Zachary Walker
Almost all of the original team left ages ago. Pardo, whom "left" not too long ago, was actually part of the BC team. So even he was just adding to the existing game.
Brandon Hughes
its cool and all but I wanted broken shore/demon invasion.
Aaron Moore
Lets say you take your level 100 main through an old raid. Everything that becomes soulbound after the sharing period is up, becomes an account bound transmog.
Luis Stewart
If they can't even handle garrisons and main cities, I doubt they can handle million(s) of people logging in at once to go to the same two areas.
Joseph Phillips
Every piece of gear you collect has its appearance added to your collection forever. You can wear any appearance you've unlocked.
It's pretty amazing and everyone that plays the game loves it. The only reason people are complaining is because D3 also had it, which somehow means it's bad.
Angel Powell
You spend 50% of the time on beta logging back in so I'm sure the Legion release will be "stable."
Jacob Butler
Fuck.
Angel Davis
Is the patch out in europe yet?
Camden Walker
>use gold
Which you use to buy gametime from someone else who paid it forward. Buying tokens is the same thing. Some cuck just encoraged you to stay in the shit trenches.
Kevin Campbell
Official forums were always for autists. Been playing for ten years and have never found usefull information there that wasn't a blue post.
Gabriel Miller
...Are you actually this retarded?
Jordan Ross
The only people who go to the official forums are soccer moms and trolls who are pissed they can't progress past LFR.
The people who post on the official forums remind me of when I walked at WalMart and these butch looking soccer moms would always demand a manager because they had the entitled mindset. That's the standard official poster.
Isaac Carter
>i-i don't understand supply and demand RETARD DURRRR
Someone remove underage
Nolan Moore
Tomorrow, like always.
Colton Thomas
Who Draenor-EU here?
Jeremiah Jackson
So? He didn't actually give Blizz any money directly, he just spent some gold which is easy as shit to obtain.
Jayden Nguyen
Are we prepared for another failure?
Juan Myers
Apparently not. Everyone's hyping this up like it's going to save WoW.
Josiah Reed
I'm tempted to resub tonight to start learning my blood dk rotation again and finish levelling it but is there any point if they're gonna fuck around with my rotation in the patch?
Angel Diaz
>The discussion is worse when I disagree with it
We can do this forever.
Logan Fisher
So my Glorious Armor transmog can be for all my sluts?
fuckyeah
Tyler Long
anyone else's FPS gone to shit after the patch?
Also >mfw affliction tier 1 talents make me choose between haunt and drain soul
Lost like 10 spells as i logged on
Angel Long
Then why did you log on?
Logan Garcia
>yfw expansion after legion will probably be ps4 and xbone compatible
Gabriel Foster
>people are unironically hating on the mythic+ system
It is very interesting to compare the game design mentality of Blizzard ten years ago and now.
Austin Cruz
Unholy is one of the best spec nigga what are you on
Hudson Reed
WHY DID MY FPS GO TO SHIT OVERNIGHT?
I've gone from 100 fps to 20
Carson Cooper
me logging on doesn't affect what blizzard decides to change
Luis Ramirez
But Sylvanas was a major character in Cataclysm, being the center point of Silverpine/Gilneas/Hillsbrad/Alterac/Arathi.
Shame that ride ended in a whimper that was Arathi..
Mason Phillips
It's your addons, ui ones are fucking with the fps hardcore. If you have tinyplates or something similar, might as well remove it. It's basically built into the standard UI now.
>hey've destroyed the last bit I enjoyed with this class/spec.
The fuck you talking about man, Unholy is actually fun now. It's Frost that went to shit.
Levi Wood
Unholy is one of the stronger specs on the beta right now, you high nigga
Evan Ward
But you said you lost 10 spells the moment you logged on so if you were smart you wouldn't have logged on.
Bentley Martin
>anyone else's FPS gone to shit after the patch?
see . It's an addon causing it. I managed to fix this shit by disabling some.
Isaac Lewis
> People complaining about lack of skills when talents allow them to get 3-4 more core rotation skills if they want so instead of half of talents being CC/movement/survivability CDs.
Hudson Murphy
nice meme
Xavier Morales
Incoming angry XIV shills Incoming assblasted Nos players
Noah Baker
I think I actually have more abilities as a Subtlety Rogue in rotation than I did before.
I'm not a fan of how it changed, but I like that Backstab is no longer a "you HAVE to be behind them" ability, and now just does more damage if you are.
Not all, they have to be able to wear that armor class.
Jack Morris
That's disgusting.
Vanilla servers WHEN?
Brody Cruz
Well I thought that since you're playing WoW you would like being memed on.
Ryan Garcia
Why are his wings so tattered? Why are demon's wings always in such a bad shape. Geez dude, take care of them, they're the only ones you've got.
Noah Davis
>learn a rotation you won't have tomorrow for what purpose
Leo Jones
>transfer one of the diablo devs to the WoW team and make him one of the leading devs >dev slowly turns WoW into diablo over the course of MoP, WoD and Legion: random stats, bonus stats, warforged, Garrison/Hall as a fucking lobby to sit in, random drop legos etc >dev promptly quits Blizzard after doing irreperable damage to WoW u mad, bros?
Kevin James
seems like Divine Storm is currently gimped until we can obtain Ashbringer, since the weapon has a bunch of abilities that power it up.
Dylan Long
>being eu
Caleb Adams
>nu-devs hate everything the old devs did
Andrew Martinez
Sure they're magically-manifested wings, but maybe its like an imperfectly transplanted appendage: it decays slowly and there's not much to be done because it was never meant to be there to begin with. Alternatively, rule of cool.
Nice Hitler pic, though. Makes me want to play HoI IV, which I will later. Humanizing and (role) playing as great historical dictators is fun.
Jackson Young
It's not like he is able to fly with them or anything. They just kinda slow his fall.
Cameron Williams
Me? Why?
Dominic Phillips
>check changes for BM hunter
Wow it's fucking nothing
Daniel Thompson
>All these votes for, "It's been changed for the better actually"
Joseph Ward
shhh you think you want them, I think I want them but in fact we clearly dont
Alexander King
Less abilities aside, a lot of people didn't like how rotations currently were for a long time.
Zachary Perry
>log into my rogue >sadness
Well I'll still stay sub.
Kevin Smith
What part of Shadow Priest is Diablo 3?
Jordan Allen
Be glad you're not the "roll the dice" spec
Jose Anderson
@345586028 BEING AMERICAN lol go away fatso
Robert Kelly
>we're now announcing the ability pruning for the new wow expansion that will be coming out in exactly 1.5 years, we'll be sacrificing all content patches to make this deadline so look forward to it! >the new actionbar will look something like this for all classes 1. attack 2. spec ability (dps cooldown/heal/taunt)
>we feel this greatly simplified design will allow all sorts of emergent gameplay mechanics for players to enjoy
Asher Ward
I'm just happy people like the changes, too.
I hadn't played in a while, but I was messing around on the PTR a week ago, and I had more than enough abilities on all the characters I had. I was always able to bind 1-6, Q and E, Tilda, 6 buttons on my mouse, and some shift-keys. Any more would have been too much, it's arguably still too much. I'm not sure what the hub-bub is about.
Cooper Rodriguez
>ability bloat is good You can always go play some of FF14's classes if you want that user.
Kayden Johnson
>the only options are way too many abilities or too few >there is no middle ground
Carter Walker
Doesn't matter how tattered the wings are, you can still fly with them, see frost wyrms which can fly despite having no skin on their wings providing buoancy
James Gutierrez
>Legion >Too few Stop playing Arcane then.
Caleb Howard
>tfw WoW is dying in your lifetime
I'm actually enjoying watching it burn in flames as Blizzcucks try to reason that it's better now
Luke Morgan
The problem is, Blizzard programmers. They'll remove four high damage abilities, then leave one that has the same damage as before. While other classes keep two or more high damage abilities. Was your class nerfed? Sorry to hear that, might want to find a different guild to raid with.
Henry Edwards
>not knowing how to reply to posts
Wew, sure is summer in here.
Logan Young
I would be if I still gave even half a shit about WoW.
Alexander Lopez
mists was good (both in terms of number of abilities and being a generally good expansion) then nearly every class and spec had ability pruning in wod then nearly every class and spec had ability pruning again in legion
Carter Johnson
WoD still has too many buttons. Elemental Shaman had too many totems and damage takes too long to set up.
Jonathan Moore
> duh it's summer no way!
Charles Walker
>Don't worry, we want to make every class viable! >Warlock made unplayable while still giving it the best aesthetics
WHAT DO THEY HAVE AGAINST WARLOCK PLAYERS, I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOD
Is this supposed to be Warlock's """class fantasy"""? To be the most boring class in existence in every spec? None of them are worthwhile in the least.
Really just want to just say fuck it and go play a Mage, it's clearly what the devs want.
Lincoln Howard
>too many buttons
I don't get it, I enjoy having a lot of abilities, even if they are just corner cases.