How did sony get away with selling an underpowered dvd player?

how did sony get away with selling an underpowered dvd player?

Other urls found in this thread:

goliath.com/gaming/10-reasons-why-the-ps2-beat-the-xbox-and-gamecube/
youtube.com/watch?v=u2HtHQc2NPg
youtube.com/watch?v=xqRqIWMFPi8
twitter.com/AnonBabble

it was the cheapest dvd player on the market, plus it played Burnout.

...

The DVD player was the killer app.
>$299 DVD drive
they were practically giving it away

That's a pretty sexy launch m8

>all those games could have been so much bigger and better graphically on the xbox or pc

That was a year after launch.

Oh, this image again.
All of those games are mediocre at best. I don't understand why Sony faggots flaunt it every time.

>2001
>games actually being better graphically on PC

Nigger were you even alive when these games were launched?

>or xbox

actually had games
cheaper than the $1000 dvd players at the time

return to castle wolfenstein looks better than any of those games

Your opinions on the don't matter. I'm not a sony fan but I can understand how important those titles were for the time period. Having Gran Turismo, a next gen final fantasy, gta, and mgs2 was a big fucking deal.

PS2 was actually one of the very first dvd players available and it was by far the cheapest at the time it came out.

Not to mention there's no such thing as "underpowered" when it comes to dvd players. It can either play dvds or it can't.

pretty sure he was referring to the fact that the ps2 itself had shitty hardware

...

It had good games.

It had games.

Shit nigga it's got something for everyone.

>Want the new Final Fantasy
Here it is on PS2 nigga
>Want the next GT?
GT3 on PS2 niggaaaaa
>Want to play the next Grand Theft Auto in 3 fucking D?
We got you motherfucker
>Liked MGS and are excited for the single?
Guess what's on PS2.

> pretty sure he was referring to the fact that the ps2 itself had shitty hardware

Well he specifically bitched about "underpowered" dvd player instead of shitty gaming hardware. Maybe he should specifically bitch about gaming hardware next time instead of going around and bitching about something else.

i just love how people pretend some of these games never went mulitplat

He was calling it an under powered system that was a glorified DVD player.

It was pretty obvious.

So which of those games were available on other platforms at release?

i think you're bitching for no reason

The importance of the DVD player is greatly overstated. The PSX created a new demographic of gamers, the dudebros, and the PS2 merely recaptured that with successful marketing.

The PS2 launched at $300 and the cheapest DVD players were half that, and they at least included a fucking remote control. No one bought a PS2 just to play DVDs. If they did, they were an idiot.

PS2 had good gaems

>at release

who cares when it went mulitplat

> He was calling it an under powered system that was a glorified DVD player.

His exact words were
> underpowered dvd player

Learn to read.

The fuck are you smoking? At the time of release none of those were multiplat. We're talking about their release lineup not "Holy shit best games are only ever on a Playstation system" you fucking moron.

>it was the cheapest dvd player on the market

It cost twice what the cheapest DVD player did, you are on drugs.

> i think you're bitching for no reason

Nah, I'm bitching to defend my own words. You're the one bitching for no reason.

Learn to understand context you fresh of the boat retard.

someone needs to relax

So we can all agree Nintentoddlers and PCucks are the most obnoxious users on Sup Forums right.

People who didn't want to wait 15 years to play a game on PC?

Someone needs to stop being a moron.

Well, in the context of "How did they get away with selling this hardware back in 200x?" it matters since those games didn't go multiplat for possibly many years.
So at the time they were exclusives.
So that was a selling point, the exclusive software.

That's how Sony sold so many PS2s, by having the games that the other consoles did not have.

It's simple my man.

My parents got me a ps2 when I asked for a gamecube purely because of DVD player, wasn't mad at all because ps2 turned out to be great and I got a second hand gamecube later for cheap price.

most of these games got ported like a year later silent hill 2 got ported 3 months later.you dont know what the fuck your talking about.

> most of these games got ported like a year later silent hill 2 got ported 3 months later.you dont know what the fuck your talking about.

Silent Hill 2 is the only one that got ported quickly. The rest either did not get ported or you'd have to wait until the ps3 comes out for a HD port. Which was years.

it being a dvd player helped it a lot in japan. i remember watching the dreamcast episode from icons and they were talking about how the dreamcast died right when the PS2 launched in japan. mainly because of the fact that dvd technology never caught on until the ps2 came. all the sega employees they interviewed said if they could go back they would add dvd support to the dreamcast and it would most likely succeeded.

fuck that episode was depressing

>it matters since those games didn't go multiplat for possibly many years
>Which was years.

gta 3 was ported a year later
baldurs gate was ported a year later
mgs2 was ported a year later

both of you have no fucking idea what your talking about, get fucked

>DMC not multiplat until the 360 and PS3 HD rerelease came out 11 years later
>FFX not multiplat until the HD remaster came to PC in 2016
>MGS2 got ported 1 year later with Subsistence
>ICO only ported to PS3 10 years later
>Jak and Daxter ported to PS3 10 years later
>GT3 never ported
>GTA 3 on PC 1 year later, another console 2 years later

God you're so full of shit. Most of these games ported quickly, my ass.

> Learn to understand context you fresh of the boat retard.

Learn that a "underpowered dvd player" is not the same as "shitty gaming hardware" you dumb fuck. You cannot substitute one thing for another and claim you really meant something else. It's like you're moving a goalpost.

Learn to understand context dipshit. It's an underpowered, dvd player.

If you can't work this the fuck out by now literally end yourself.

Listen anons, you thought this was a real thread when the cocksucker OP made it right?
Well it's not. It was a bait thread, and we took the bait.

Stop replying.

If you reply, sage.

You're calling it a "underpowered dvd player" when you mean "shitty gaming hardware" in your mind. All while you assume people can read your mind.

What the flying fuck is this bullshit? Go fuck off you retard. You're just covering for yourself for getting BTFO when you called it a underpowered dvd player.

I'm not the OP you braindead dipshit. OP just forgot a comma. The PS2 is underpowered and it's also a DVD player. Don't throw a tantrum because you've realised you completely failed to read the context and feel like you can't back out now.

people who use names like
PCucks
Nintentoddlers
sonyggers

not ironically are cancer

Dark alliance was on gc as well.

By selling replacements.

They took the NES strategy. This is why the 360 was successful also.

It was the World's Cheapest DVD player that just happened to play games at a time

>It cost twice what the cheapest DVD player did, you are on drugs.

Why are you rewriting history?

fuck i remember that episode, the dreamcast was one of a kind

the PS2 (and PS1) was fucking crazy for me because I had it modded and I could literally play any game I want on it.

If everyone can claim their arguments were in context, there would never be any arguments. You're basically moving goalpost to claim OP didn't mean what he said. And that is some bullshit right there. If you're not OP, why are you speaking for OP. Can you mindread OP to know he meant it in context?

i always thought the dreamcast failed because its library was too focused on arcade-type games, not enough timesink games and only a handful of RPG games to really hook in people.

Honestly I can't even remember if there were even shovelware on the dreamcast, it always seemed like the library of the dreamcast was so pitiful compared to the PS2.

Yes because the PS2 is known widely as the weakest system of the fucking generation. Therefore compared to the competition it was underpowered. The PS2 must have been before your time if you seriously don't know this. Why do you think the Wii was constantly compared to the PS2? Both won their generations console war as the technologically inferior system.

Fuck, Sup Forums is infested with underage retards.

everyone's an obnoxious cunt

There was hardly shovelware

Hell, there was hardly any support or games outside of SEGA and a few devs.

Nobody fucking trusted SEGA after the Sega Saturn.

>ace combat 4
>mediocre at best

Opinion so bad I needed a biowaste container to discard it.

Had the best library by far
Had a year head start on GC and Xbox
Was BC to PS1, which was a huge thing at the time

>it always seemed like the library of the dreamcast was so pitiful compared to the PS2.

well i mean it did only last like two years and all of the games that were in development got released on other consoles

>Yes because the PS2 is known widely as the weakest system of the fucking generation. Therefore compared to the competition it was underpowered. The PS2 must have been before your time if you seriously don't know this.

Maybe next time OP should bitch about game hardware instead of SPECIFICALLY saying "UNDERPOWERED DVD PLAYER". I'm not a fucking mind reader. I know you're butthurt as fuck for getting btfo but you don't get to change goalposts by claiming context bullshit and suddenly calling everyone underage. I owned a ps2 and swap disc magic back in the days, still own some games for it too.

Internet wasn't mainstream much those days

marketing went a REALLY long way

these days you will have digital foundry shitting on the weaker system which is what's gonna happen with the neo vs scorpio

>Hell, there was hardly any support or games outside of SEGA and a few devs.

surprisingly a lot of support from capcom though, gunbird 2 and power stone were the shit

Silent Hill 2's PC's port is absolute fucking garbage, eat shit.

but the xbox version was fine?

>it played DVDs
>it played PS1 games
>the launch titles were amazing
>it was affordable

It was literally the best system that's ever been released.

>Yes because the PS2 is known widely as the weakest system of the fucking generation.
i've never really put much thought of this because of how the games grew to utilize the PS2 better throughout its lifetime. I was always under the impression that it was Xbox > PS2 > GCN, not including the dead one that doesn't really matter.

>the launch titles were amazing

the ps2 launch was disappointing as fuck

He called it an underpowered, dvd player because it's underpowered and a fucking DVD player. How the fuck else do you think he should have phrased that so idiots like you could understand? Literally no one besides you misread the sentence into this fucking abortion of a concept you have in your mind while multiple people have called you out on your stupidity,

The ps2 wasn't THAT underpowered compared to other consoles during it's time. It was still fair decent enough to consider good. Unlike Zeebo if anyone remembers that shit...

Zeebo was underpowered shit for it's time. I remember them demoing RE4 on it and it was shit compared to ps2 and gamecube version.
Wii was underpowered for it's time compared to ps3 and 360.

>not including the dead one that doesn't really matter.

triggered.

>Not liking ICO or Jak and Daxter

My head hurts, I thought you had to enjoy video games to post here

>goliath.com/gaming/10-reasons-why-the-ps2-beat-the-xbox-and-gamecube/
>ear in mind that this was a console that was technologically inferior to its competitors, as the Xbox and GameCube both had more powerful hardware than the PS2

5 seconds on google.

not him but i didnt like ico at all, i loved jak and daxter though

It was the only console of its gen with a functioning controller.

>older brother gives me Ace Combat 04 as a birthday gift when I was in 5-th or 6th grade or so
>not really interested in military planes but happy I got a gift and decide to try out
>expect a shitty game
>end up replaying the game multiple times and constantly trying to beat my score
>even replayed the mission for the songs

Shame what Ace Combat turned into now though.

Kinda want to get into flight sims again, but I want to enjoy it with a flight stick and lever.

It had the best games available at launch plus it had a bunch of exclusives. It could also play DVD's. That's really all there is to it.

I'm a pc gamer now (lel mustardrice XD) but back then PS2 was the best single system to own.

It really didn't. It wasn't cheaper than all other DVD players, but it was around the same price as I recall.

oh, fair


I generally completely forget about the existence of the games on the XBOX that aren't Conker or Blinx

>He called it an underpowered, dvd player because it's underpowered and a fucking DVD player.

He called it
> "underpowered dvd player"

If OP doesn't use a comma, i'll just take exactly what he said. I'm not a mind reader, nor do I know he forgot a comma. You claim you are not OP, so how did you know he forgot a comma or not? Can you mind read OP? Why are you moving the goalpost for OP?

All I'm seeing here is a faggot calling everyone stupid or underage and getting mad that we can't read OP's mind. Sorry we're not all psychic. Wished we were all had mindhax like Delta but we don't.

Yep, it took a few years for cheap DVD's to start coming out.

>I expect perfect grammar on a japanese image board and yet I'm so shit at english I can't construe what someone is saying based off context when the other alternative is completely fucking retarded.

You're fucking retarded and the only one being called underage is you because absolutely no one else is having difficulty understanding OP.

It launched earlier than the gamecube and xbox, and late enough relative to the dreamcast that it was worth buying. It was sold as home-theater accessory because it could play DVD's and had Dolby 5.1 (something no other console could support). It had games people wanted, both sequels and new IPs, plus people could play their Playstation games on it. It was the successor to the winner of the previous generation and it was heavily marketed by Sony. Plus it had the best controller.

GTA3 was never released on anything other than the ps2, what are you talking about? and mgs2 according to the wiki was ported 2 years later.

>2001 PS2 RPG
youtube.com/watch?v=u2HtHQc2NPg

>2002 PC RPG
youtube.com/watch?v=xqRqIWMFPi8

b8

>its a angry GameCube owner thread
It's okay man the GameCube had some pretty great games like Resident Evil 4

> fuck up on grammar
> blame someone else for reading exactly what is being posted

kek, so it's the reader's fault now for someone else's mistakes. Wow... you have some backwards ass mental gymnastics. You could give sjw a run for their money. Maybe OP should go back to school and learn proper grammar and how to use a comma.

>comparing two completely different games
>implying neverwinter nights wasnt 1000x bigger than a linear rpg

wow are you retarded

>neverwinter nights
>not a small linear rpg
Are you retarded?

you are a retard it was like 1k for a dvd player and the ps2 was $800

>If a question doesn't have a question mark on the end I literally do not know what's being said
>If someone types "dont" instead of "don't" I don't know what's being said
>If someone calls a PS2 an underpowered dvd player I can't tell that he's referring to the PS2 as an underpowered, dvd player despite the fact that a dvd player being underpowered makes no fucking sense

Maybe you should develop your english skills.

it was still a dvd player that was the same price as an actual dvd player or cheaper

>you're not allowed to compare different games because it triggers me

Were you? PS2 was a gutless machine even at the time

It's Xbox which had extremely powerful hardware in it

read the thread before you make a retarded comment

>$800
What the shit. I got mine for like 200NZD a couple weeks after launch.

I got my PS1 for like 50pounds on release. Is shit just super expensive in America?