How come couch multiplayer games for the most part isn't a thing anymore on consoles? For example the ps4 have been out for 2.5 years and there aren't any splitscreen racing games worth talking about.
I really don't get this. Couch multiplayer is the biggest advantage for consoles so it blows my mind that so few games have any of it.
Jose Nguyen
Couch co-op:
>is more trouble to get working because it's more taxing than just rendering a single viewpoint >only one copy sold >no online fee
Online multi:
>less demanding so more grafix >one copy per person >one PSN/XBL membership per person >online connectivity is omnipresent, people don't hang around to play games as much anymore >in the event of console piracy becoming a thing online functionality will not be available, so anyone who wants multi has to pay
Chase Perry
>be me >at friends house >he says "wanna play vidya" >yes.mov >he wips out forza6 >da faq >leave house
John Williams
Online ruined everything.
Also the fact that split screen means either lowering the graphics or the framerate because it needs to render the same stuff twice. Modern consoles can't pull that off without severely downgrading the game.
Isaac Roberts
Perhaps i am alone on this. Perhaps everyone have embraced the autism and never meets up with anyone else. But removing the social aspects of consoles seem to remove one of the biggest advantages consoles have over pc gaming.
Brody Cox
PC gaming had LAN parties though, and even if they were a less common thing, just setting up local area games with your siblings was just as common as playing multiplayer on the couch.
My dad got myself and my 2 brothers a semi decent PC each back in 2004-5 and we just connected them with cables and played LAN games against each other all the time.
Joshua Roberts
There's pretty much no reason to own a console these days. PC has almost all the games and more options regarding control inputs, third party VOIP clients etc. Plus you can invest in a better machine for better performance, enjoy free and much more stable online play, chat with a keyboard etc. etc. etc.
Wyatt Davis
Yeah but LAN parties are always going to be a big project and not just some spontaneous gaming with friends. We had a LAN set up as well in my family when i was younger but sitting in different rooms and playing with each other is not the same as sitting right next to each other. Of course you can move the computers around but it is always going to become a project.
Logan Anderson
Well we had a computer room so we were in the same room. Had 3 desks in a U shape set up around the wall. My PC and my brothers 2 PC's and my dads work PC. Also had a tv with a PS2 plugged in as well. Had so much fun in that room as a kid.
Juan Nguyen
Sounds really nice, wish we had a room like that as well.
Jaxson Young
Im with you, but y I have nintendo consoles as well, which still means a certain degree of couch multiplayer. Also there are fighting games on ps4.
David Mitchell
EA Battlefront just put out a split screen instant action type mode so there's that.
Don't think there's any split screen racing games on ps4 though. Rocket league is at least.
Is there actually any good racing games on ps4?
Dylan Nelson
>Too taxing It's all about money. That's it.
Jacob Diaz
No
Chase Martinez
Sole reason I skipped Halo 5 and the Xbone entirely. Half the games functionality is gone, MP will be unplayable for everyone when servers go down. Can't have friends over to play Halo, so why even buy it?
Maybe this wouldn't be the lowest selling console generation since 1995 if console makers and publishers hadn't systematically stripped out features and content from their platforms and games in pursuit of slightly higher short term profits. There's no reason to own a non-Nintendo console unless you're just willfully ignorant and/or lazy.
Jonathan Robinson
Well i bought some fighting games for the ps4 but they are honestly not games that are as easy to get into as racing games for example. It usually just turns into a button mashing contest. Me and my friends have little to no experience with fighting games so that might have something to do with it.
Jordan Kelly
Christie is by far the most underrated DOA waifu.
>tfw no Sisters of Battle 40k mod or even DLC for Christie with her alternate hime cut hairstyle
Nolan Flores
You weren't missing much anyway. Only solace I got from that shitfest was that I bought it used. First Halo game I've ever done that for.
Gavin Hall
Because money. Developers would rather have 2 people playing on 2 different consoles with 2 different copies of the game.
Jace Roberts
I can deal with the changes to gameplay, but the confirmation that it was missing local play altogether was easily the most disappointing and infuriating game-related news i read in all of 2015. What the fuck were they thinking? Oh, right, that they wanted to sell more Xbones and Live subs and that no one would care about a staple feature being gone.
I bought both previous Xbox consoles just for Halo. So glad the game underperformed and utterly failed to turn the consoles sales around, it didn't deserve to succeed after insulting its core fanbase so thoroughly.
Ethan Carter
It's going to bite them in the ass, people won't stick around like they used to when the games have online only MP and nothing else. They're actively devaluing their own products and killing any longevity the games might have had.
I think a general lack of content and features are a big reason for the recent contraction of the console market, I'll be genuinely surprised if 8th gen manages to match even 5th gen totals, let alone 6th or 7th. People are just getting tired of the same generic safe AAA games, the constant gouging with DLC and other bullshit and the fact that games today have fewer features than they did years ago.
Parker Lee
Because they want the functionality of pc's. It's what they've been aiming for since the xbox released.
Brody Russell
Flatout is love.
David Anderson
but PC's can have split screen multiplayer as well
Alexander Williams
>strategy first refuses to give up the flatout license >it will be stuck with them unless bugbear can get big stacks of gold to buy it
Fuck this world
Ayden Nguyen
Bugbear is dead my man. Wreckfest is a mess atm.
Isaac Torres
is the next car game even good? Seems to have been stuck in early access hell for a while now.
Liam Torres
>tfw no more good arcade racers
Brody King
I don't know why people are complaining so much about Wreckfest lately. It's early access, what do you expect. Just wait for the poor fins to finish it.
Didn't they fail their kickstarter, funding is probably low as fuck. It will be done eventually.
Cooper Campbell
They'd prefer if you both bought a console, game, and online subscription.
Anthony Bell
Maybe because it took them more than 3 years to released a half-baked tech demo with full release nowhere near in sight. I'd be pretty mad too if I backed that. And yes it got fully funded.
Wyatt Ramirez
I backed it too, and I realize complaining is how capitalism works and it's good for the consumer.
Maybe I am wrong and am being too trustworthy of Bugbear, but they are one of the few devs who have never pissed me off. So I want to like them and give them the time they need.
John Cook
If they offered local multiplayer how would they gouge you on XBL or PSN subscriptions?
Ian Robinson
Main reason really is money but the reason given is it being difficult to render additional cameras at a consistent frame rate. I don't know the last local multiplayer game I played that wasn't a fighting game. Maybe Screencheat or something like that but even then that's not a big game.