Was I wrong?

>go with gf to one of her (female) friends house.
>knowing that this girl is into games I try to start a conversation with her about games I know she likes.
>she tells me that she's going to buy the next WoW expansion that's going to come out in a couple of weeks.
>I tell her that I think it's unfair that players have to pay a monthly fee after buying every expansion.
>she tells me that it's ok because it's not too much (despite telling us before how she struggles to make ends meet)
>knowing that she plays LoL, I ask her what champions she uses, what she likes to do, etc.
>I then proceed to tell her the same thing about me, and we exchange the common things that happen in pubs, and how much mad we can become every now and then.
>then I tell her that I left LoL because of the community, balance issues, etc (basically everything we know is wrong with LoL
>She argues that the game is fine how it is, that every champ is viable, the market is ok, the rune/masteries system is fine, etc
>I give my arguments to how that's wrong and that basically even many players in the pro scene are leaving the game because of things that change and that don't change.
>she says that it's better this way and continue saying everything is good as it is.
>I give ideas to make the game better (I was trying to have a debate because I like that kind of thing, instead of circlejerking about how the game is good when it is not).
>she tells me that she won't continue speaking with me about that topic because I'm a stuborn that says no to everything (she sounds a bit mad at this point)
>I tell her that I'm trying to justify my position with my arguments.
>there's an awkward silence (my gf is staring at her phone at this point)
>I ask her about other aspects of the game.
>she says I don't know to everything.

I don't remember what happened next, but we changed topics. There were not more discussions about vydia that night, despite telling me that it's good to have someone to talk to about this.

Take it to /r9k/

you're sexist.

>starting a debate with a girl
That's where you fucked up, they always have to be right and their opinion is truth, moreso in shark week. You probably found a girl to whom everyone gives the agreement nods so they can fuck her at some point.

>arguing with your gf's friend about fucking video games

Expect your gf to see other people soon. Real soon.

Sounds like she didnt want to have a debate and you did, and she didnt have the energy for it even after hinting to you that she didnt want an argument and you kept going

>Trying to have a debate with someone you don't know very well about a topic they're clearly less passionate about than you in a casual setting where they aren't looking to argue, debate, or justify any positions

You sperged the fuck out mate

Why the fuck are you trying to pick a fight with her??

She's your gf's friend dingus. Just smile and nod, damn.

I don't know. She told me that she usually doesnt have people to talk to about vydia. But I think that she meant personally.

I fucking love Melonie Mac!!!

What is she up to these days? What does Sup Forums think of her?

This is her belly, wouldn't you just love to lick it?

This.

You're lack of social skills seems to have prevented you from reading the conversation correctly. You were 100% wrong there mate. Even if you think you are right sometimes you need to understand that the other party won't necessarily give a fuck even with a decent argument. The girl simply wasn't interested in hearing your shit and you failed to notice because you couldn't think about anything besides the words you wanted to hear your own damn self spewing.

My gf is kinda into vydia too. But she doesn't have opinions because she barely plays nowadays.

Fucker has assburgers

Wow. You're such an autistic faggot, OP.

>arguing about about video games outside the internet
LMAO

>I tell her that I'm trying to justify my position with my arguments.

jesus

Yeah, maybe. But she did the same thing before when we were discussing about other topic. According to what I heard, she argues with people a lot.

You were wrong for pressing an issue she didn't want to talk about
Most girls aren't as hardcore as Sup Forums about videogames; she was probably just a casual player and entertaining your "conversation".

Keep things light with strangers.

>talking about video games
Please do not do that

After the monthly fee thing and after the she says LoL is still fine thing especially yes. If someone has established they're a blind idiot its your fault if you continue arguing with them.

Trust me one of my best friends still a good friend for years is like that and i made the mistake of continuously trying to argue with them when they start shit. These people don't care they aren't smart/interested enough in their hobby to care about quality and satisfaction. Why they still engage in said hobbies confuses me. But it is what it is.

I know her about he same time I know my gf (6 years). And she is way more into vydia than me. But I think that she doesn't question anything she consumes. As I said before, she's not even thinking in leaving wow despite how bad it is nowadays.

I almost told her "Now I know why you are still single".

NOT VIDEOGAMES BACK TO FACEBOOK YOU NORMIE SCUUUMM

Damn you really sperged out OP

Then why waste the energy and effort to argue with her in the first place? Debates never end well in the first place. People just get further entrenched in their views and wound up just thinking the other is stupid for being wrong.

Sup Forums is a great example of this.

Tell her to play DotA. It's LoL, but not for retards.
Also, tell her MMOs are dead and to move on

>arguing with girl
it was at that moment that he realised, he fucked up.

Guys can we ignore the bait OP and just discuss Melonie here?

you dont know how to greentext you fucking faggot

You're still clearly in the wrong, she clearly did not want to argue and didn't really give a fuck about your criticisms and you should've taken the hint and stopped if you wanted to salvage an awkward situation

If you did say that last thing you would've cranked the sperg up to 11 or 12 and she wouldn't talk to you anymore and your gf would probably think less of you

She's a grown up person. Me and my friends constantly have discussions like these, and we don't get mad because we have arguments for playing what we play.

>DotA
>Better than LoL

You dotards are still fucking hilarious, keep at it.

>I said what I do in threads related to the games
>things went poorly

That's when you use "Yeah, I guess I see your point" and talk about something else

Seems like you two are perfect for each other. Cuck your girl, user. You and I both know it to be true.

yeah well sometimes you don't feel like arguing too and if you make it obvious you aren't feeling a debate only a faggot will keep going with it

Yeah, maybe you're right. Maybe I should've said something like "is there anything you don't like about LoL/WoW that you want to discuss"?

Next time maybe

>"is there anything you don't like about LoL/WoW that you want to discuss"?

That's an incredibly autistic thing to say in casual conversations

Normal people hanging out with friends don't often like to critically analyze video games

Me and my gf then

We can't argue about vydia here :^)

You're most probably right. But it's not reason to be mad if something tells you something bad about what you like. More if you're an adult.

She's into vydia, DnD, anime, etc

Jesus.... if she likes lol and you dont DO NOT TALK ABOUT LOL

especially when its clear all you want to do is talk about how you don't like it

Both are right.

LoL is not balanced in competitive play, same 30 champs most games, and ocassionaly 40 pocket picks in all the world.

However LoL is balanced in casual play(ranked). I mean even I'm bad and I'm diamond II, and there are teemo, urgot and shaco mains that get to master.

I still think it was your fault for trying too hard to force your opinions, like if she wants to play the game and think it is fine for her expectations then let her keep having fun.

Like I remember a dude's friend who was like that.

>Be figuring out what to eat
>He keeps saying stuff like: "Nah this stuff most likely will come from cans. Nah this other stuff is bad for cholesterol. Nah this other stuff will blah blah"

Like yeah he's right. But he's still annoying and made us slightly mad.

>But it's not reason to be mad if something tells you something bad about what you like

By the sound of it she was less annoyed by that and more annoyed by you continuing to do that for far longer than she wanted to have that discussion and going into the conversation with the apparent goal of sparking a debate when she had no interest in doing so

don't really care about your normie problems, faggot.

Yeah, nobody accepts criticism well. I should've known that.

She would she it :^)

Yes. But who sperged the most?

When someone comes with a good argument about any topic, I say "Well, maybe you're right. I'll think about it"

>Yes. But who sperged the most?

You, no question

I don't think you're getting that reacting well to arguments is all fine and good but if someone doesn't want to even have an argument in the first place and you try to push it anyway you're being an awkward dickhead

...

Nothing wrong with a monthly subscription when most $60 games have less than 100 hours of content.

You tried to use debate as small talk

It doesn't work. When speaking with acquaintances, people want to talk about their interests, not argue about them or defend them. Putting someone on the defensive is the exact opposite of what you are trying to do when engaging in polite conversation: you're trying to get them to let their guard down so they can enjoy themselves.

This goes for any light conversation between acquaintances by the way, anybody trying to make this a gender thing is looking in the wrong direction in my opinion. Most people are non confrontational by nature.

When you start talking about this shit and you're looking for somewhere to take the conversation, easy rule of thumb is talk about other related things you do like, not things you don't like about the current thing. Like if you're eating at a friend's house and he makes you lasagna using his mother's recipe and he talks about how she uses fresh basil
DON'T:
>I really find basil fucking ruins the whole dish, I try to avoid it whenever I make lasagna
DO:
>Wow, how long has this recipe been in your family? In my family, we've always used rosemary instead of basil, I love it, I should make it for you some time!

>But who sperged the most?
You for making a thread about this minorly socially awkward situation and responding to every post in it.

Sounds like you have some serious chemistry with this chick and you obviously can't get her off your mind since you even bother to make a thread about this.

Uh-oh, looks like a certain someone is going to get laid soon.

I was trying to put dota as an example of good balance. She said that she didn't believed me.

She's a teacher. She teaches children. I thought that she was a mature, polite person. Now I know why she's still single.

Post more webms.

No, because I can't practice because Sup Forums doesn't like blogspots

I will have that in mind. I don't want to start a debate here.

No. My gf is way prettier.

You're right and she doesn't care so shut up?

Why didn't you hide your power level? And just be like "haha, yeah, I used to play that...not much anymore because of some of the changes...but enjoy it! it's really fun for a while!"

There's nothing impolite about trying to excuse yourself from an unwanted argument and she is in no way obligated to respond to your unsolicited points and criticisms

Nice blog.
Subscribed :^)

>goes to her house
>shits on the 2 games she plays

wow man
that's really polite of you

Damn I'm going to try being a faggot like this the next time I have to engage my gf's family

I really fucked it up the first time.

You.

Learnt to accept people's opinions. This shit lost me many friends and potential gfs when I was in my early 20s.

Stop trying to "win" a conversation you dumb aspie

>Post more webms.
Why did you make the OP Melonie if you don't even know her you fag?

Saged because this isn't even video games.

She said she enjoys it. You told her she was wrong for enjoying it and sucked any fun out it for her. Are you really wondering why she hates you?

>being retarded and not hiding your powerlevel
Anyone who plays WoW and LoL is just a casual.
You say "Oh that's cool. Yeah I enjoyed X, but I play other stuff mostly" and then move on starting an argument is stupid.

You cost yourself a threesome.

Yeah, nobody likes a know-it-all

I'll try that and I'll let you know.

I got sex with my gf when we got home.

>I got sex with my gf when we got home.
No shit she was damage controlling out of jellyness

>I got sex with my gf when we got home.
She wanted to have you one last time before visiting "her friend" (AKA Tyrone)

>Yes. But who sperged the most?
You did.
You cannot "Correct" people's preferences. Debate is just another form of arguing.

I argue about random shit with my friends sometimes and we fucking love it. Even when we don't need to.
Shit's kinda autistic I know but hey, at least I don't do that around other people because I don't wanna look like an asshole who wants to be right about everything.

I didn't say she hated me, but you're right about the first things.

I didn't know that people was so constantly irritated.

>>He keeps saying stuff like: "Nah this stuff most likely will come from cans. Nah this other stuff is bad for cholesterol. Nah this other stuff will blah blah"
>Like yeah he's right. But he's still annoying and made us slightly mad.
THIS.

It's like if a Vegan is constantly telling you what you are doing is wrong, and you should eat plants only instead.
And if they would not just stop.

OP confirmed for annoying know-it-all insufferable human. OP's GF confirmed for sucking other cocks.

You deserve it OP.

I fucking hate girls like this.

no clue who it is

nice bod tho

>It doesn't work. When speaking with acquaintances, people want to talk about their interests, not argue about them or defend them. Putting someone on the defensive is the exact opposite of what you are trying to do when engaging in polite conversation: you're trying to get them to let their guard down so they can enjoy themselves.
To add to this.
It's as good/if not better to hate the same things.
>I hate COD, Me too!
People love to hate things together.

Nice blogpost, upvoted

edit: thanks for the gold!

>she tells me that she won't continue speaking with me about that topic because I'm a stuborn that says no to everything (she sounds a bit mad at this point)
Literally every woman ever.
You cant have a civil discussion with them.

Most girls are like this user

You're english is terrible,

Imagine if you were talking to her and she asked you what your favorite game is, you told her, then she started going "That game is shit, the community is awful, they ruined it with a patch, the mechanics are too casual, I can't stand playing it anymore", and then after you sperg back and counter all of her points she still goes "Yeah nah you're wrong, that game sucks, let's talk about why it's bad and how to fix all the things you like about it that actually suck", and then you said "Well let's talk about something else" and she goes "No your favorite game sucks, argue with me"

That's basically what you did to her, I hope you can see why it's annoying

She's fugly.

Didn't know that. Then how the hell does one change opinions if there's nobody that gives you another point of view?

Yeah, I do that with my friends all the time. They even critisize things I love, and sometimes I agree and sometimes I don't. They're fucking videogames. Not political i
ideas or something like that.

Maybe she can introduce her to her friend. Maybe that would correct her mood.

> So I went to this chicks house and tried to have an intellectual debate about the merits of a videogame
I bet you get all the pussy, faggot
Did you tip your fedora before being kicked out?

Going into discussion deeply like this with someone you barely know is kind of awkward, especially since you just met for the first time. Probably better to get to know somebody a bit better before you do something like that.

My gf is like that. But I don't get mad because I know she's right. But I get your point.

>playing cards against humanity with my roommate and 2 of our girl friends
>game goes ok, but one of the girls is consistently winning every round
>other 2 are getting frustrated
>not like you can always win since the game is mostly rng on what cards you get
>game is over, roommate starts conversation with my female friend
>"so what do you game on, console or PC?"
>"i pretty much only game on consoles, retro stuff, ps3, etc"
>"wow, you know consoles arent as good as PC because they have more RAM, better video card, etc."
>she gets really mad
>they start screaming at eachother
>i game on both, so I can see where they're coming from
>try to calm everyone down, but they're having none of it
>next morning, money is missing from both me and roommate
>no idea who to blame, could even be roommate staging it since he's kind of a douche
>they permanently hate eachother
Why can't people just agree to disagree? There are advantages to both console and PC gaming; mobile wasn't even touched in the conversation I have a 3ds and it was definitely worth

>didn't know you can't correct preferences
OP confirmed for being autistic, and I don't use that term lightly. The basics of social interaction, the ones that people pick up in grade school, are hard for autistic people because they don't have the inherent guidebook that comes of being able to pick up on subtle interactions and empathize with others. OP not knowing this indicates that he is, indeed, autistic.

Maybe your right about LoL, but whats the point of trying to argue about it? Are you a child? Sometimes people are going to have stupid opinions, let them be, you don't have to prove yourself right to everyone.

I would chew the greasiest burger or steak with my mouth open directly in front of them.

vegan is ok if you dont bring it up all the time. sofritas at chipotle is fuckin tasty

Fucking how dare you talk to her like that? Trying to mansplain everything like you know better. Respect her opinion or go fuck yourself buddy.

>Didn't know that. Then how the hell does one change opinions if there's nobody that gives you another point of view?

You can be presented with another viewpoint without having someone directly oppose your own

Also why are you even trying to change her opinions? That isn't something you should or usually can do, and more often than not if you try to tell someone their opinions are wrong and they should follow yours instead all it's going to do is reinforce their beliefs in their own opinions out of a natural urge, kind of like how when a parent tells a kid not to do something they want to do it more

OP I think you might actually have Asperger's if you're having so much trouble grasping this

You SHOULD NOT argue with an acquaintance in a casual setting, and you SHOULD NOT try to change someone else's preferences, taste, or opinions through debate in pretty much any scenario

>I was trying to have a debate
>basically everything we know is wrong with LoL

congratulations, you've now discovered that nobody things this shit outside of this autistic imageboard. everyone here just pretends to be contrarian to get (you)s, if you were genuinely serious then you're just fucking retarded

Don't remember the last time I had a civilized discussion with a girl.

English is not my first language. Sorry, user.

I would love something like that. That means that she can see things maybe I did not, and that I could learn something by having other persperctives. And I'm aware about the shitty things I like.

I think your mistake was giving a fuck, dont get me wrong, i dropped league for the same reasons, but if you don't even play the damn game, why even complain about it?

So if that argument happened, you would concede and go "Ok you're right, my favorite game is absolute trash and I never should have liked it"? Because that's the only way she'd stop arguing with you in the situation I described

This is very simple.

You enjoy debating. She does not.

You made your enjoyment more important than amiable social interaction and made it all about you even when she made it clear she didn't care for it.

Social interaction is about give and take, and all you did was take. That's why she didn't like you.

Try not acting like such a nerd desperate for conversation next time. Keep it light

You're actually autistic or have some other kind of social dysfunction, user.
I think you should see a therapist if you aren't already.

I've talked to autistic, as in, actually diagnosed with autism, people before, and they well and truly do enjoy debating to a much greater degree than anyone else, and part of it is a complete and utter failure to understand alternative viewpoints and being obsessed with correcting things that are "wrong", be that an opinion or a fact.

Just because you see something a certain way does not mean that she does, thinking, "gee, well I wouldnt mind it, why should she?" Is both ignorant and socially retarded

>trying to have a debate
>with a fucking LoL player
>that is also a gamer girl

No, she hates you. I how you don't like your gf too much, you're fucking done, kiddo.

Autistic people tend to be compulsive, that doesn't serve as justification in any way, learn to argue with people who can function better than you

>>go with gf
Stopped reading right there.
Nice chunk of text, faggot.
You don't need to "name" your thread, by the way, this is not reddit or a forum.

I know her since around the same time I know my gf.

She's into vydia. So what you say applies.

Fucking this. Why does someone have t get mad when someone has a different perspective? I mean, if everyone is polite it's ok...

Yeah, it sounds stupid now...

>go fuck yourself buddy
I did before going to sleep.

Yeah, you're right. I'll try that thing of being more patient with people's opinions. I only hope I don't get a stroke in the process.

I played the game myself and got my own opinions. Then went to the internet and said "oh, so I was right about this"