Are they right about The Witness being the deepest game since Planescape: Torment?

Are they right about The Witness being the deepest game since Planescape: Torment?

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Witness has a story? I just solved puzzles for half an hour and deleted the game
Also the deepest game after PST would be pathologic or something

These guys claim to have deep insight into the games industry and are former devs, but even a cursory glance into their background shows that they have no real experience. The one guy (not the speaker), has at most, a string of stints that haven't released anything. As someone who actually worked at a AA studio for some time in the 90's, they show a complete lack of understanding on nearly every topic they talk about.

They're snake oil salesmen, and they're making money off your views.

Also this

I've seen a few of those videos.
I hate his voice and I don't think they've ever been correct about something, there's always some stupid shit.

Are they ever right about anything, OP? Also I'm not clicking that.

Looking for things that aren't there: the video

someone tell me what the video said, i'd watch it but then i'd be RUNNING OUT OF INTERNET

>Witness has a story?

It has a point to make.

There's nothing deep or great about The Witness, in fact EVERYONE even forgot the game exist, it was discussed for like two weeks and then no one talked about it anymore, I had to google the game to remind myself whatnit was and realise I played it.

Explain.

WITNESS ME

Came in this thread just to post this but since you already did I guess I will go with ARMA IS JUST LIKE COD.

>Are they right about The Witness being the deepest game since Planescape: Torment?
Was that seriously said?

I always thought James Portnow was a navel gazer in the past, but this plain cements it. Cute animated characters and polished editing will make even a conspiracy theorist seem like an authority.

>Was that seriously said?

Nah. That would imply Planescape: Torment is deep.

Alright I actually sat through the whole video because I hate myself, TL;DW for everyone who has a modicum of self-respect:

>The Witness isn't about "narrative" in the traditional sense, whatever story you find in the game is incidental. It's about getting the player to think like Jonathan Blow, to communicate the idea of puzzles being all around you like he saw when he first thought of the game.

To which I have to say, no fucking shit. Literally every piece of media ever made in the history of humanity is about communicating an idea or point of view. This isn't something unique to games, as he says it is.

Yeah my dad works at Nintendo too

FUCKING STOP POSTING FAGGOTS! WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF FUCKING INTERNET!

fpbp

On another subject, which is worse - Let's Plays or Game Theorists?

While I like their history videos, their gaming videos tend to be so full of shit. That one video about "memorable experiences" that challenged the viewer to remember their last full playsession was bullshit.

Game Theorists for sure. At least Let's Platers don't act like they're providing some deep, meaningful insight when in reality they're just coming to the same obvious, boring conclusions the rest of us did a decade ago.

>Claiming you've done work in the industry is considered impossible

He didn't say he was Hideo Kojima or some shit user.

as someone who thinks their game videos can be terribly cringey, wrong, or just stupid, their history videos are actually pretty nice.

I wish they could get away with just doing that.

>Are they right about The Witness being the deepest game since Planescape: Torment?


No and whether this a real question or B8 please feel free to leave either way.

The Witness is literally the most boring, unrewarding, non-fun, pretentious gaming experience I've ever had.

is this game worth its money on its own? just as game?

>ARMA IS JUST LIKE COD.

did the pitch shifted faggot really say this at one point

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What did he mean by this?

if you like weird sudoku sort of mind game puzzles yeah

>59 minutes of complete bullshit

I'm not watching that. I've watched 3 hour videos of game developing commentary on Bloodborne and I'm not watching that.

>I've watched 3 hour videos of game developing commentary on Bloodborne and I'm not watching that.


Link?

>not even 30 seconds in and he casually drops the fact that aliens made the pyramids
Oh boy

Prove him wrong.

youtube.com/watch?v=mHAke6YfC54

It's nothing special or mindblowing really, but he adds some technical tidbits that I never knew, like how A.I. aggro ranges work. But it's probably because I'm an idiot when it comes to technicalities.

>Skip to around 20 minutes
>SACRED GEOMETRY, TETRAHEDRONS CREATED INTERNALLY WITH THE POWER OF LOVE

boy

They told me they didn't.

Well MGS2 came out in 2001 right?

They're wrong, probably.

Mass consciousness is a cool concept to be used in fiction, though.

>e.g.: STALKER

Aliens talk to you?

Shill thread? Shill thread.
How do you even get such a faggy voice - and why doesn't he try to fix it?

I am legitimently suprised they're still doing things. I mean I've never really heard anyone say they were particularly good and once the left the Escapist I never heard from them again.

I mean, I think I once heard they kept adding some comic artist literally who into their videos but that's it. Why are they still around? They're barely deeper into the industry than the chucklefucks here.

Holy shit how did I not see the face Max is making until now. That's hilarious.

>Not a narrative
>In a traditional sense
>Whatever story you find in the game is incidental

Like, who fucking speaks like that? Who fucking believes that?

Who are you to question user's friends?

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can i see the link to where he says that

sounds like absolute retardation

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how can he do this?

how can he just spout shit from his ass and upload it?

how?

Yea. During Arma 2, I believe their video was about some sort of lack of innovation of FPS and called out Arma for being a COD clone. Don't recall the full context, but yeah, they did say that.

You know, this is as bullshit as the time I heard a guy on the radio talk about how God built the Pyramids using his flying space vehicle and how you can use crystal lasers to activate key chakra points in your body.

I think he just loves listening to himself. And in extension have deluded himself to believe others loves listening to him as well.

narcissism

>can't get views from making good videos
>make controversial videos instead

what a faggot

>Explain.

It was a video about ipv4 and ipv6 basically.

Of course not. That'd be ridiculous. I'm Hideo Kojima

>There's nothing deep or great about The Witness
the puzzledesign is at least really good, if not great imo. and I'm not talking enviropuzzles, just the regular ones on the panels. the people who did this video are fucking idiots, the witness doesn't come around to being about anything worth a damn, and especially not 40$, but I find myself sometimes looking forward to the day that I can go back and play the game over and have the puzzles seem somewhat fresh. that's unusual for me.

If memory serves, he said ARMA (or something similar), BF2 (which came out before COD4) and Frontlines fuel of war all ripped off COD4.

Sometimes he has a point.

>We do not fear censorship, for we have no wish to offend with improprieties or obscenities, but we do demand, as a right, the liberty to show the dark side of wrong, that we may illuminate the bright side of virtue - the same liberty that is conceded to the art of the written word - the art to which we owe Das Capital and the works of Shakespeare.

>Dare we dream of a golden day when the bestial War shall rule no more. But instead - the gentle Prince in the Hall of Brother Love in the City of Peace.

Really makes you think, huh?

Prove that they don't.

This isn't made by the same people from Extra Credits though...

>Dare we dream of a golden day when the bestial War shall rule no more. But instead - the gentle Prince in the Hall of Brother Love in the City of Peace.
he should stop talking completely for two years and just think back on how much of a fag he used to be

Nigger that quote is from Birth of a Nation.