Was the sixth generation the last golden age of gaming we'll ever see?
You could meet someone at a video rental store, see them checking out something like Viewtiful Joe, and immediately know they were cool.
Gaming as a hobby feels really saturated now. EVERYONE immediately finds out what's "cool" because I guess the internet has made the hobby more accessible.
Am I talking nonsense? Does anyone agree with me? Post your thoughts.
Connor Anderson
I like the gamecube too user but ps2 fucking dominates with its library of games. Viewtiful Joe was fun though, but my shit was billy hatcher
Luke Johnson
So your idea of a "golden age" is just one in which you belong to some super special secret club that not everyone is in on? While I definitely hate some modern trends, games that I like are still being made. And all of the games I loved from my childhood and even some that I always wanted to play but could never get are also available. Aside from the loss of lightgun games (which would be solved if I got off my ass and bought an old TV, which would probably be cheap), I think we live in the best of times.
Elijah Lewis
I miss the days when each console actually had a unique library on them and they didn't all have the same games
Sebastian Ortiz
I miss the game quantity above all else. More great games kept being churned out by the 6th gen due to low production costs, made the market shine the gems. Shit like Nocturne and ratchet/sly were fantastic.
Jack Brooks
>xbox introduced paid online >ps2 brought in a shit ton of casuals into the market >the two dedicated video game consoles sold the worst
6th gen was a mistake
Parker Ross
this so much.
Connor Hernandez
yeah I hate that Mario Kart and Smash Bros is also on XBox One and PS4 and that Bloodborne is on PC
oh wait
John Scott
In my head, I pretend Xbox doesn't exist, and I see two consoles with wildly different libraries in the Wii/WiiU and PS3/PS4. Then there's PC with its own exclusives, of course.
Samuel Johnson
>PC with it's own exclusives
Where?
Carson Green
>the two dedicated video game consoles sold the worst >Having the option to watch DVDs is a bad thing
Jacob Thomas
it is, because of 6th gen consoles today are now multi media machines
Brayden Collins
>Was the sixth generation the last golden age of gaming we'll ever see?
In short yes.
Easton Perez
>already bored of smash 4 and mario part 10 sucks balls >stipl play mario party 4-6 as well as melee to this date >own 40+ cube games >3 wii u games
Cube was great
Lincoln Robinson
>Sup Forums unanimously agrees that 7th gen was the end of the golden age >/vr/ unanimously agrees that 6th gen was the end of the golden age
so, which is it?
Connor Mitchell
yes
console warring at its lowest top tier games all around good reasons to own every console available
Ryder Garcia
>Does anyone agree with me? yes, i also hate muh hobby become popular and too mainstream
Alexander Gray
don't be retarded and pretend you can get point-n-clicky games on consoles. Grand Strategy, RTS, 4X, ero-games, plus a lot of other doujin and indie games.
Julian Turner
it ended in 2007
and fuck /vr/, board shouldn't even exist. I'm still pissed moot split Sup Forums even further than it needed.
Daniel Watson
>Gaming as a hobby feels really saturated now. Gamers are dead, yes. Today it's all aboit franchises.
Jack Evans
Whatever you say, you sony fucking piece of shit.
Angel Watson
>it is, because of 6th gen consoles today are now multi media machines Again >Implying more options is a bad thing.
Zachary Taylor
>console warring at its lowest you must be joking
Maybe because you were too young to be on the internet at the time.
Carson Ward
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Kayden Gray
it is, it used to be about buying consoles based on what exclusives it had but now its changed
Jayden Roberts
>ps2 brought in a shit ton of casuals into the market If you're complaining about bringing in casuals, you've got the wrong system.
Josiah Bailey
it really shows the age difference between the two boards
Benjamin Thomas
>Buy Nintendo console for Nintendo exclusives >Buy Sony console for Sony exclusives >Buy a Microsoft computer for XBox exclusives
wow it sure has changed a lot
Ethan Johnson
I really don't remember it being nearly as bad as it had been the gen before, or last gen.
Gabriel Sullivan
>top selling games are GTA and racing games
okay?
Kayden Howard
Fuck off.
Isaiah Smith
>it is, it used to be about buying consoles based on what exclusives it had but now its changed That makes no fucking sense, you still buy console for exclusives, you just also have the option to do other shit with it. There really is no argument against more choice.
Benjamin Howard
you arent looking at it towards a casuals perspective dumbass
Jaxon Bailey
what was wrong with gen 6 exactly? Videogames stopped being good in gen 7, this is a fact. Gen 6 was flooded with 10/10 games
Daniel Cook
No you fuck off faggot. It's a good thing /vr/ exists or those old games wouldn't get the discussion they deserve. All what Sup Forums needs is more relaxed modding and more fun posting. The board split is fine.
Asher Rodriguez
see
Nolan Scott
Sony has the best exclusives and the PS4 is the only console that's sold well, so clearly I am
Andrew Young
Are you honestly implying that casuals don't buy console for games? Nigga they could get a BluRay player if they didn't care about games. Also, still not seeing an argument against more choice.
Brody Richardson
I saw retro games being discussed all the fucking time, now I don't even fucking see Doom threads anymore.
If anything, Sup Forums needs non-lazy mods
Nicholas Hughes
These things come in waves. You can't have a steady flow of awesome without some drawback eventually. Likewise, things never stay shit forever. Things are getting better all the time.
Kevin Miller
What a great counter argument.
Robert Morris
while this is true to an extent (there are lots of games I want this year) the years of 2008-2015 were fucking unbearable, so much disappointment, and honestly I wouldn't be surprised if the games I want this year turn out poor.
Ryan Smith
>games were easier >paid online >on disc dlc >the best games were sequels from previous gens >more games were marketed towards casuals >games was no longer a niche hobby >basically became too popular during that gen
by the way this is /vr/ opinions on it not mine
David Ward
you havent met a casual then
Liam Butler
name 10
Logan Williams
literally everywhere pc has exclusive genre's ffs
Jose Price
That is because the board split. The board split is good overall. A ton of old games get time for discussion while newer games get plenty of threads. I see no issue with the split.
Thomas Perez
>2010 >unbearable
pleb taste
Carson Young
name 20
Owen Collins
>games were easier games have always been easy, never understood this argument >paid online Dreamcast started it and isn't it technically gen 5? Or is it gen 6? I always see people use them interchangeably here. >on disc dlc in gen 6? What games if I may ask. >best games were sequels guess games like Eternal Darkness and such went over their heads? Also of course good games are going to get sequels in the new gen, that's a stupid argument. >more games were marketed towards casuals whether we like it or not, casuals have always infested gaming, there was always hardcore gamers and casuals, I mean for fuck sake my parents played at the height of pac-man fever and they were both in their 30s for the last two see above.
Now I know casuals have absolutely ruined gaming because most shit is dumbed down, but only the truly delusional think gaming was ever niche.
Adam Ward
I hear you. I still haven't gotten a PS4 yet because of those years and the impending announcement of Neo. My list of interest is very low though and I feel like just skipping 4. The industry did this to me starting with the game of the year editions. Why bother with day one ever?
Parker Gray
exactly, it's fucking annoying, it's either buy it all up front at extra cost, or wait a year and get it for half cost.
ok 1 and 2 were better lol lol on vita also on vita ok ok meh tell me about this one
Daniel Reyes
>Dreamcast started it and isn't it technically gen 5?
its gen 6 and samba de amigo had on disc dlc
Gabriel Gutierrez
Sony Exclusives are never going to be on PC, I didn't make a list for it to be judged, you said to name exclusives.
Ethan Hernandez
is this the official stance? Because I always see people saying it was a glorified gen 5 machine, I was never fortunate enough to own one. and did it really? Holy shit SEGA has been jews for a while now.
Oliver Sanders
ok now name 10 good ps4 exclusvies
Benjamin Jenkins
oh I wasn't that guy, I was just judging your choices
Levi Lewis
They are good. Or are you looking for indie garbage like Undertale and shit like that?
Connor Walker
>Dreamcast started it and isn't it technically gen 5?
stopped reading right there
Evan Martinez
I miss putting in the game thr first time and just playing. No fucking install or downloading of patches. Seemed like the last gen that allowed you to do that.
Nolan Lewis
The Internet is the greatest dichotomy to ever come into the world. It has made everything better, and it has also royally fucked everything up.
I don't miss video rental stores, tho. Gamefly is much better it ain't even funny.
Kayden Anderson
>Oh you like veiwiful joe? >I don't know, it looked ok, that why I'm renting it. >Oh cool want to come over and play games sometime? >No
Chase Young
well I always see people saying that it's a glorified gen 5 machine so which fucking is it, I know it was gen 6 for all intents and purposes, so why do people say this shit?
Sebastian Hall
Yup. DMC4 the first time was an absolute shock to me. It became the calling card of that gen.
Gabriel Ramirez
>so why do people say this shit? >what are shitposters
Jordan Turner
Hell yea man. Started my collection off with the mainline first. Had gotcha force for a bit but sold it it for decent money
Logan Baker
undertale is better than any of those games
Kayden Parker
This. It was kind of a rude awakening the first time I ever played a game on my PS3.
>pop game in >here we go dis gon be gud >installing >the fuck >why can't i just play it
Julian Lewis
No I mean people saying it seriously, not even shitposting. It always baffled me because everyone knows that Dreamcast was gen 6, so I want to know if there was some reason why these people would fathom such a stupid thought. holy fuck this fuck modern consoles, fuck blue ray, I have to install and wait for every fucking goddamn game because of this shit, it's maddening.
William Young
Gamecube was an interesting console for me. After PSX, I thought for sure I was going to go all in on Sony and skip the Cube. Then my bestie got Smash and pummeled me into dust. I had to have that game if only to crush him. Then I was blown away by release after release in tandem with the PS2's. What a golden age indeed.
Grayson Phillips
>N64 2 was great. shit bombed yo.
Caleb Bailey
I think what I miss most was that you didn't have to play online to get the best experience out of games
there wasn't much forced multiplayer, the games that did have it were good. there was actual fucking effort involved. It just so tiresome
Easton Harris
>console sold bad so of course it had to be a bad console
Daniel Garcia
so did the Dreamcast, it was still a good console
Dominic Jackson
>no DLC >no microtransactions >couch co-op >decent 3D graphics, clearly flawed but still okay by today's standards >original and unique titles before the FPS flood truly started >motherfucking couch co-op
Nathan Cooper
not him but it was decent, it definitely was the last console where nintendo made a genuine effort to make it good until they went full blown casual with the wii. but then again, when games like f zero gx, eternal darkness, and geist sell like shit i dont really blame them
Jonathan Morris
there was DLC, but it was so few and far between that it didn't matter
Asher Kelly
That's because it was a brave unknown world where devs had the fear of failure breathing down their necks, pushing them to succeed. Now its all about revisiting what worked before not unlike Hollywood.
Jace Peterson
>no DLC
xbox had DLC underage
Lincoln Jackson
Dreamcast and PS2 as well but there was so few of it that it didn't matter
Ryder Anderson
>That's because it was a brave unknown world where devs had the fear of failure breathing down their necks, pushing them to succeed.
Robert Taylor
well it's true, look at now, you can flat out trash talk your fans and still be perfectly fine. Even the shittiest of video games somehow make money. Video games are a huge joke
Jackson Peterson
I think the issue is that the industry aged along with it's audience. The NES-SNES was for young kids.
the PS1 and N64 were still for kids, but slightly older kids.
the PS2 and it's generation were more for pre-teens and teens
and then the Xbox360 became the dudebro console for college fratboys, which sort of defined the core agegroup of the generation. And now, this gen is pretty much entirely for adults. Which is why youve got the Xbone trying to be an all-in-one multimedia device that only an adult can really fully appreciate.
and in all this youve got Nintendo, who with the wii, deviated slightly from their usual strategy and in addition to staying mostly kid oriented, appealed to the casual and nongaming crowd with it's sports games and easy to figure out waggle controls, and sort of tried to stay there with the Wii-U, but really has no audience.
gaming has also become a bloated overexpensive industry, which makes the innovation and unique experiments that previous generations did dangerous and suicidal.
in all this youve got indie devs who pander to the particular nostalgia of their generation, which is ok i suppose, you wouldnt get 8 bit platformers or PS1 styled racing games anymore,
But I think the actual "kid" audience has become something of an afterthought compared to adults and young adults, who are easier to really market, while kids are easy to please, but dont have the same disposable cash
dunno if that makes sense, but i think there's something to it
Kayden Green
it kind of does matter when it lays the groundwork for DLC
Isaiah Nguyen
yeah but it was inevitable, and it didn't take off until gen 7.
Isaac Martinez
if you were 4 when the NES launched than you would be 24 when the 360 launched, thats way too old for a college fratboy
Justin Sanders
Not if you're like me. 21 and a failure who hasn't even signed up for college yet. ;_;
Hold me Sup Forums, I'm getting old. I want to chill on Isle Delfino and not worry about real life.
Jackson Young
Ps4 sold alot, must mean it has tons of fun games and not shovelware
Luis Lopez
it does
Elijah Scott
but it does?
Carter Sullivan
Love me some fifa, cod and madden on my ps4!
David Lopez
Well he did say 6th gen, not GC. I never owned a GC, had a PS2 and Xbox
Jonathan Ross
>6th gen thread >OP posts a pic of the fucking gamecube of all consoles sasuga Sup Forums
Liam Lewis
>love me some good games on my ps4!
ok? what are you even trying to prove right now?
Matthew Bennett
let's be real though, game systems have been CD players since the early 90s.
Charles Long
biggest problem is nowhere to discuss 2000-2007 games
Carson Myers
I liked the 5th better.
The sixth was like this for me:
>Sega died painfully and I was a fan of em >By the time I liked less action packed or realistic shit >Worst gen for Final Fantasy, I'm not saying X is bad, just I didn't like it myself >Handheld games (GBA) were getting more relevant >Sony was practically a monopoly: the last years of that generation I couldn't even trade my gamecube or xbox games, because "we only accept ps2 stuff" and of course there were 3 shelves for PS2, one for both gamecube and xbox >Introduction of online multiplayer I couldn't even enjoy >PC was pretty fucking irrelevant, I remember the only thing I liked about it was being able to emulate games and Ragnarok Online
Honestly I did not like that gen that much. I liked the gamecube, granted. I was still impressed at how it handled graphics a little bit better than the PS2 yet it was small and it felt more like a fucking console to me. But nothing will beat the day that my dad bought the N64 with SM64 and OOT
Logan Baker
I think it was actually the opposite. They weren't under pressure to make every game a huge blockbuster that makes hundreds of millions of dollars, so they could make a variety of games for everyone and have modest but respectable success instead of just making whatever was calculated to be the most profitable for the least effort.