TF2 > Overwatch

TF2 > Overwatch
Also, now that TF2 has matchmaking, TF2 > Quake. Things might change when Quake Champions comes out, but right now since TF2 has a lot of similarities with QuakeWorlds physics, TF2 is the uncontested best FPS out right now.

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Nobody gives a shit.

What does it feel like to not be able to play more than one game at a time?

>Play more than one game at a time
What?

b8

does anybody actually give a shit about tf anymore?

Except TF2 is waaaay past its prime, had they put in matchmaking around 2009-2010 it would've GOAT though.

I think nobodies still care about both tf and overwatch. Fucking casual nobody scum.

unironically agreed but no way will you get new players to come to tf2

TF2 is my favourite game and I have gladly sucked it's dick in the past, but this update was a fucking trainwreck.

>TF2
>casual
Give any example of a game that isn't casual so I can laugh.

Trolls. They love to bait overwatch fans.

I think it's an universal agreement from anyone that TF2 sucks nowadays.

same here brah. This was their last chance to breath some life into the horse corpse I've been beating for 8 years but unfortunately it looks like this is just TF2's time to go.

Try and launch it twice, see what happens.

But why?

What purpose would that get you? Unless you were trading and trying to play Competitive at the same time. Seems a dumb decision to make anyway.

So that I can solo queue into multiple games at a time with a friend increasing the odds we get paired together.

This way you can have all the benefits of being able to communicate with a friend without the many drawbacks of premade
(more chance of being paired with other premades, less elo gain etc)

I can do this in overwatch.

at least tf2 is balanced

You mean Overwatch lets you cheat the system?

Huh, no wonder that game is garbage.

6v6 TF2 is my best love
but i dont get the hate for Overwatch, its a fun game aswell! its a shame they chose a casual mode (Payload) for competitive
in ovewatch but tis easier to learn than 5cp i guess

good things about overwatch:
they might do crazy changes but they at least explain the reasoning and tel lwhy

bad thing about TF2: devs are killing the fucking game, MM update is the biggest flop in the history of TF2, devs barely ever talk, and never explain most of the changes they do

>6v6 TF2

9v9 HL or bust

>playing the joke mode

user-sama

>1v1s in 6 different places across the map is somehow better

m8

I really wanted to try the competitive mm out but

>queue for 10 mins
>still no game

I aint got time for that, gave up giving TF2 a shot again

>Want to install tf2 again
>20GB

nope

Competitive that forces you to play in 70 fov, and also default viewmodel fov.

Boy oh boy

>1v1
only shitters take 1v1s
6v6 is the opposite
9v9 is a spamfest, in 6v6 every player counts
my TF2 is only 14 GB somehow

if it wasn't for 9v9 constantly being promoted as the comp mode for new players for years, 6v6 could probably be much bigger than it is today

>that was six years ago

Nobody gives a fuck nigger.

Both of there games are repetitive dog shit that has little to no replay value.

>do a closed MM beta for 6 months
>its garbage but everyone expects the final release to be as good as CSGO MM
>the final release is exactly the same than the beta
>no placement matches
>everyone starts at rank 1
>"A player has abandoned the server so nobody will get any XP" near the end of most matches
>Forced graphical options in the least optimized FPS game to ever exist

valve
are fucking
retarded

> old or Big Mac computer
I am yet to see any drops from the graphic options on a shitty i5 and a gtx 680.

my CPU scores over 8000 in cpubenchmark.com
in koth_viaduct MM the FPS drops are specially noticeable, i think its due to the effects of snow when characters run on it

>Valve is using Viaduct and not Product

Literally no excuse for being this retarded.

they never liked the pro version of viaduct for some reason
at least they are adding some elements from the pro version of granary to the official version(symmetry fixes, ammo pack on last)

they should implement some kind of basic training for people that want to try comp, but that would probably require them to play the game and understand the 6v6 basics

Is it time for TF3? What would you do differently if you were the head of TF3's development?

>general
random crits are gone, not even programmed into the game
random damage spread gone too (that's been off for a while, but my point stands)
critical hits only do double damage
mini-crits now do 150% damage with falloff
No functionally special weapons

>Scout
Pistol ammunition: 48 -> 60
Bat damage: 35 -> 45

>Soldier
Self-inflicted blast damage is halved
Melee weapon is now the Riding Crop; effectively the Disciplinary Action with a more standard-order name

>Pyro
Flamethrower effective range extended
Airblast range also extended, but cone is narrowed and moved forward
Secondary is now the Flare Gun
Melee is still the Fire Axe, but functionally the Powerjack

>Demoman
Self-inflicted blast damage is halved

>Heavy
Secondary weapon is now Sandvich

>Engineer
Base health is now 150
The teleporter entrance costs 50 metal while the exit costs 150
Secondary is now the Wrangler
Wrangler no longer makes the sentry fire any faster
Wrangled sentries no carry the repair penalty

>Medic
Medi Gun is now the primary weapon; Syringe Gun the secondary
Ubercharges also supply critical hits
Ubercharges take 50% longer to charge
Melee weapon is now the Ubersaw
Ubersaw only supplies 20% of a charge per hit

>Sniper
Sniper Rifle base damage: 50 -> 75
Secondary weapon is now Jarate
Recharge rate on Jarate is halved

>Spy
Speed: 320 -> 330
Disguising supplies varying benefits depending on the class chosen.
Scout: double jump
Soldier, Demoman: Lowered damage taken from explosives
Pyro: afterburn resistant;
Heavy: Extra health (+75, subtracted from the spy's total when he undisguises, undisguising with

cancel the game

These are all terrible

>TF3
>make it 2011 TF2 but in Source 2
fixed it for you

this is easily the worst possible list of changes and i hope you never develop a game ever

I've played TF2 for years semi-regularly, but I have no interest in Overwatch. It seems like Dota: The FPS to me.

Overwatch is fun, but cant compare to TF2 in the competitive aspect
less complexity, stripped down classes, objectively worse movement options and mechanics

but its the new hotness in town so everybody is putting money into it
TF2 has the stigma of being mostly a casual game so the comp community plays for the sake of playing and their love for the game, barely any prize money involved

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>TF2 has a lot of similarities with QuakeWorlds physics
>air control but no accelerated movement

fuck outta here

I love Tf2 but Overwatch is Tf2 with asses and a great competitive mode. Sorry.

You can form a party to search for games.

You what? They have to rework two classes because they suck so much ass. That's why it's Heavy vs Pyro and not two classes that actually have a resemblance of a counter between them.

tf2 hasn't been good since 2007
overwatch is trash
quake champions will be trash
>TF2 has a lot of similarities with QuakeWorlds physics
it really doesn't