This is what ruined Sonic

This is what ruined Sonic.

>eggman and sonic forever and ever
i bet you choose mario in mario kart as well you boring fuck

wrong image

Heroes can join the fun on this too

Furfags?

if that's the case

OP should be pointing his fingers at 3D sonic games instead.

This

Sonic only went really downhill when he went 3D, as much as I like the Adventure games. People complain about "Sonic's annoying furry pals" because they began to introduce too many while at the same time under utilizing them.

Big had no reason to exist in Adventure, Shadow and Rouge were literally clone characters, Heroes is based around playing the same three characters with different skins and characters like the Babylon Rogues, Blaze and Silver were created to only exist in one game/sub-series of games and do jack shit else. None of it was necessary, so they freaked out and for a while made a bunch of games which you only play as Sonic. That's fine to a point, but that wasn't the problem. The problem was that the characters had no gameplay reason to exist or only served as a cheap gimmick.

Tails and Knuckles in the old games provided variations of Sonic with different abilities to do different things while still having roughly the same gameplay, and they can enhance the replayability of a standard Sonic game by letting you take different paths and use different tactics in the same level. That guy who did the ports of Sonic 1/2/CD and is currently making Mania understood this, and that's why he made the simple addition of letting you play as Tails and/or Knuckles in Sonic 1/2/CD where you previously couldn't. They change gameplay enough to be interesting, but not so much that you need to redesign whole gimmick levels for them.

Sonic doesn't need a side kick to follow him around.

Pretty sure she's the one that takes it in the ass and gets destroyed

Heroes wasn't as influential as SA2/B.
That being said, they took basically no pointers from the failures of SA2 and went ahead to set the standard for future Sonic games to an all-time low by releasing 2006, which is one of the worst AAA games ever to see the light of day.

No, Tails kept things interesting, instead of Mario boring.

Thank THIS IDIOT wanting to make Sonic into Final Fantasy for the state the series is in. Same dude that wanted to add all these idiot friends.

I DON'T NEED NO SIDE KICK RIDIN' MY SHIT. FOLLOWIN' EVERYWHERE I GO, RIDING MY BIG BLUE DICK.

If you had the old Sonic and Knuckles game cartridge and plugged Sonic 2 into the top instead of Sonic 3 it let you play through 2 as Knuckles, so much fun back in the day

True, and that was awesome. What Christian Whitehead did (that was his name) was add Tails into Sonic CD and both Tails and Knuckles into Sonic 1. On an official Sega licensed port of those games, so it was pretty cool to see. He also added a complete Hidden Palace Zone into Sonic 2, so it's cool to see it in an official game.

Don't worry,mate. The dark days are over.

Amy Rose
Big the cat
Tikal
E-102
Chaos
Shadow
Rouge
Omega
Espio
Charmy
Vector
Cream
Blaze
Marine
Sticks
Jet
Wave
Storm
Silver
Gemerl
Eggman Nega
Shade

will never appear in a non spin off title of Sonic ever again. Seriously, over 20 new characters over 25 years and not a single one of them is worth shit. That's horrible and lets not even remember

Mighty
Ray
Heavy
Bomb
Honey
Bark
Bean
Fang/Nack
Perche

Sonic,Tails,Knuckles,Eggman and Metal Sonic is all the franchise needs and it's good Sega is finally realizing that. Now if they'd dump Amy for good instead of trying to use her to appeal to SJWs and Feminists. Orobot and Cubot can stay so Eggman can talk to somebody.

Chip,Shara,Merlin,Caliburn and Erazor can go fuck themselves.

Tails is the best character tbqhwu fampai

I would say that the thing that ruined sonic was a misunderstanding of what made the original and such so great.
Too much focus on straight up speed and making sonic go fast, when in the original sonic he wasn't exactly fast, he could build up a lot of momentum, but otherwise he was floaty and controlling him felt like running through a muddy bog.
That along with the awful tech and stuff and sonic 06 and other games being broken to hell is probably what nearly killed the franchise.

Oh and shadow is an edgy fuck.

At least they seem to have learned their lesson with the GOTTA GO FAST thing.

Sonic as character is boring fuck.
>Be MC
>Games are named after you
>You're the worst character

Modern Amy Rose is great. Not Boom, Modern. Her Sonic addiction just needs to chill a lot.

And Cubot and Orbot need to be replaced by either Scratch and Grounder, or two new but equally interesting characters, because Cubot and Orbot are boring fucks.

I don't know why but I always hated this faggot.

The original CD Amy wasn't so bad. She outright annoyed Sonic and he doesn't seem all that interested in rescuing her.

I like sonic heroes

>Modern Amy Rose is great. Not Boom, Modern. Her Sonic addiction just needs to chill a lot.

The first sentence out of modern Amy's mouth is always Sonic, in Boom she's an annoying nag and in the games she's fucking worthless and adds nothing to any cutscene she's in. She and Knuckles didn't need to be in Lost World.

You really want to waste time away from fighting Eggman for the two idiots from a loony tune like show? Are you daft,user? They've had their time and they need to stay in their rightful place. If you want to see them again go read the comics, they actually showed up some months ago working under another Sonic cartoon character. That breezy bitch.

>Amy Rose
>Shadow
>Rouge
>Omega
>Espio
>Charmy
>Vector
>Cream
>Blaze
>will never appear in a non spin off title of Sonic ever again.
>Classicfags are THIS delusional
Literally all of them appeared in Sonic Generations. Why the hell would you think that they wouldn't appear in Project Sonic 2017?

Because people hated them showing up in Generations and Project Sonic 2017 is all about listening to the fans, we have a 2D game with the playable characters we've been demanding since the DS days and if you remember the stream a week ago, not a single person there asked about any of those fucking characters besides the memelords asking for Big and a few bad Amy cosplayers.

Honestly, they should just get on with the times and make Tails trans. It would be a logical step to take.

>Because people hated them showing up in Generations
>things that never happnened

>Because people hated them showing up in Generations
Spak for yourself, chuppo

This is what ruined Sonic. Any other answer is factually and objectively wrong.

Trap tails best tails

>Shadman

Only contrarian fags dislike shadman

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>>MTD
get out

don't even post excito

Does that fox thing have 2 tails?

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>mfw I thought Tails was a girl as a kid and I thought ''she'' was cute
Is this how homosexuality feels like?

>not liking kitsunes
get the fuck off of my board

That's not the boost.

>Tails is actually over a hundred years old and he's pretending to be a kid
>which explains his high intelligence

DEEPEST

Sonic went to shit when it went multiplat (Heroes) and Sonic X became popular.

>Cubot and Orbot can stay
It seems at this point for eggheads humor to work it's absolutely vital for him to have someone to rag on
Not a single TV or comic adaption has attempted to adapt Robotnik with out one, most having TWO
Even Satam and both the US and UK comics secured this while managing to keep a threatening Robotnik although that seems to only work with one some what smart minion striving for his own goals rather than the regular 2 bumbling minions

Look, Amy brings a lot of much needed traits that the other characters are missing in a succinct, aesthetically pleasant package. Her whole entire Sonic Adventure 1 story checkmarks all the boxes of why she's worthwhile - female, what it's like to have dedicated but reasonable empathy and forgiveness, represents civilization, has the hammer for a fun playstyle, etc. She's fine, in the same way Knuckles is fine.

I did say "or something similar." Their games are dated, now.
Besides, yes, if you're going to take time away from the already near-perfect Robotnik, then the replacement should AT LEAST be entertaining and point out the reason for Robotnik's unlikely failure to the younger minds - no one else likes his evil designs, so he has to use robots, and even robots/computers/machines have flaws.

>he thinks getting burning rangers instead was a bad thing

Anti boost fags pls

Sonic Heroes was fine. The story wasn't as cringey as this, the voice acting wasn't as bad as this, and the gameplay was better than this.

I honestly don't see why Heroes gets shit on, it's really not that bad of a game.

>"I like pushing one button to beat an entire stage."
Thanks for sharing that.

>implying Sonic 2 & 3 are worst than Sonic 1

You can only be so wrong.

I agree with you that Heroes wasn't that bad. It actually did a lot of things right.

Visually, the game was much more in line with the classic games, with much more creative stage themes (when I say themes, I mean in the visual design way, not necessarily in terms of music, though the music is very good). The story is mostly refreshingly barebones compared to SA1-SA2's drama bullshit. Also, the level design is more consistent, has more substance to it, and at least makes an attempt to be more complex than the Adventure games were.

The real problems were that it controlled like a wet bar of soap, the characters never shut up, and it made you play through the game 4 times just to fight the real final boss.

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