What was something that just didn't make sense in the Metal Gear Solid series?

What was something that just didn't make sense in the Metal Gear Solid series?

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>multiple Big Bosses
>doesn't make sense

>TPP

How sequels kept getting made despite them being shit

This. Can't believe nu-Sup Forums suddenly likes Metal gear

nothing

kojima handling budget of mgsv

>dat foreshadowing
HOLY SHIT

BRAVO KOJIMBO

Why are there two of that guy?

Making money doesn't make sense to you?

Making consistently shit games and having them sell doesn't make sense to me.

>be guard
>get knocked out
>strapped to a balloon
>end up in a completely unknown base
Oh my god I love this guy now!

entire fucking plot
why is almost everything from MGS2 forgotten?
why no one mentions there was more than one big boss?
why does shooting everyone from magic no kill gun count as stealth?
stretched to MGR even
why sunny stopped being retarded?
how did Armstrong expect to get elected by organising a terrorist attack?

then you obviously don't know shit about marketing.

The writing.

Solidus Snake being the former president of the US and no one questioning him albeit obviously looking literally exactly like Big Boss, probably the most well known man in the world - especially in the US.

The fact people who have never played the games talk about them as if they had because they watched some reviews for them and read the wiki.

>why is almost everything from MGS2 forgotten?
What do you mean? MGS4s Plot is pretty much the sequel to mgs2. Raiden, GW, Liquid Ocelot, Olgas Daughter, everything is there.

>why no one mentions there was more than one big boss?

because it was kept as a huge secret to the world. and actually, there is some foreshadowing to it if you actually look for it, like the famous dialogue between BB and Solid on the graveyard.

>why does shooting everyone from magic no kill gun count as stealth?

because that way no one noticed you?

peacewalker was fun, coop missions, coop weapons
MGSV isn't fun and doesn't have coop

Whatever happened to that Pliskin guy?

Everything about the writing? Despite MGS2 being a weird fever dream, the writing is still somewhat kind of so-so through MGS3.

Once MG4 came around, though, everything just went out the fucking window.

This is how ISIS recruit.

>how did Armstrong expect to get elected by organising a terrorist attack?
Ask the same thing of Hillary.

>that sexy af sneaking suit

It's like people have different opinions, woah....

There is a brig section of motherbase where they do whatever they have to to ensure allegiance.

That we are just supposed to live with the phantom pain that V caused us, and there never will be an actual chapter 3.

Sunny was an autistic savant since mgs4, she comes off as retarded but is actually a prodigy.

>Can't believe nu-Sup Forums suddenly likes Metal gear
Sup Forums has always liked it ever since the days of spamming MGS3 memes on Sup Forums.

Wtf I love Big Boss now.

>how did Armstrong expect to get elected by organising a terrorist attack?

Because nobody would've known it was him, the president was in the middle of Pakistan.
Not that the president needed to die anyways, Raiden killing the soldiers was enough to start an outrage and a call for war.

>BB
?

kys underage retard

Bed & Breakfast

Big Boss.

Fuck, after all this time I always think of him as Naked Snake.

Mark II stuff is too grindy

I dropped the game right at that part

How in MG1 and MG2 Big Boss is cold hearted asshole that wanks at the thought of being at war and then from MGS on he's treated like Jesus Christ who died for our sins.

Naked Snake was a codename he literally used once, for one single mission. I don't know why people still call him that.

Do you call Raiden "Snake" too? because that was his former codename as well.

>why is almost everything from MGS2 forgotten
like what?
>why no one mentions there was more than one big boss
because no one knows
>why does shooting everyone from magic no kill gun count as stealth?
you can't/it's much less effective on higher difficulties
>why sunny stopped being retarded
she was never retarded lol
>how did Armstrong expect to get elected by organising a terrorist attack
Probably being using a bunch of warhawk rhetoric then being "proven right" when Pakistan assassinates the President.

>get knocked out
>probably fucking die if you don't join up
>if you're cool they could just make you cook all day for all the doritos and mountain dew you could ever develop

Next thing you're going to try telling me is that Sup Forums likes moralfags

MGSV repeated missions on chapter 2

blame MGS2. it started the whole 3deep5u story that series was then forced to follow. MG-MGS1 was just a basic, no non sense action movie with goofy characters and villains. like Die Hard but with ninjas and mechs.

Why they kept Venom asleep for 9 years.

Or did Venom and John actually emerge from their comas at around the same time? That would be a pretty big coincidence

Because it feels nice to call them all by their snake names.
Would be weird to say
Solid Snake
Liquid Snake
Big Boss
Solidus Snake
Venom Snake

Ya feel?

phantom pain revealed that mg1/2 big boss is actually venom snake rather than big boss. and the reason he is bad is because he's angry at big boss for using him as a decoy and wants to ruin his reputation pretending to be him

Big Boss got out of him coma earlier, he was just waiting for Venom to wake up too.

So, what "Snake" is Raiden?

No that's wrong.
Venom Snake is only in MG1 and remains loyal to the real Big Boss.

metal gear 2's bb is the real one

>there is some foreshadowing to it if you actually look for it, like the famous dialogue between BB and Solid on the graveyard.

Spoiler me this

The last 30 percent of MGS2. I wonder if it would have made more sense without 9/11.

Fucking terrorists.

Quirks of gameplay get a free pass.

When it comes to plot points, Liquid Snake "possessing" Ocelot through a hand transplant is a stretch compared even to the marvel super villains featured in every game.

Trouser Snake?

Almost... everything...?

turret-steady aiming

Raiden Snake duh

>there's a boss before big boss
>the main reason why Big Boss turn against the world was because they made him kill his sorrugate mommy and never let go
>that's the origin of the biggest terrorist threat of the 90's in the metal gear universe

didn't kojima revoke that 'hypnosis possession' thing from mgs2 in mgs4 by stating it was the nanomachines in ocelot that made him believe that?

A Hind D?
what would a russian chopper do in Alaska?

He must be crazy to fly a Hind in this kind of weather!

what would a German car do in the States?

Raiden's Snake codename lasted like 2 minutes, so people don't really call him by it for that reason.

He's also shares less similarities with the Snakes.

>unironically using nu-Sup Forums
>pretending to be an oldfag

Hey there kid, there are much better sites for you like Reddit and Facebook, perhaps you should go there instead of an 18+ site like Sup Forums.

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HOW DOES A MAN MAKE A TOMMY GUN OUT OF BEES?

>and the reason he is bad is because he's angry at big boss for using him as a decoy and wants to ruin his reputation pretending to be him
literally fan speculation

And hypnosis. He hypnotised himself.

Not the guy you're talking to but, I still think there's an element of possession. He is the Sorrow's son after all. You can say it was hypnosis, but it doesn't make it true.

it was fairly unclear, some speculate that the Liquid side of him stopped taking over, so he used hypnotherapy to maintain the illusion.

>he doesn't know that creating bees inside of you is essentially the same as having an inbuilt 3D printer but the material is always bees

What would they question him for?
They know he is a clone of big boss

That's what I thought. Like I said it's pretty fortunate that after a decade they both happened to wake up a few weeks apart.

They should have written it so that Venom was never in a coma. He keeps the legend alive for 9 years while the real Big Boss is in a coma. The game still takes place in 1984 but the fact that Venom has been living a lie for a decade gives the reveal a bigger impact. It also gives him a reason to exist in the story, in TPP it was like Venom replaces Big Boss while Big Boss fucks off to do whatever

what was something that made sense in MGS?

Why didn't Otacon give BOTH Stealth camo and Octo camo to Snake to make his job much easier?

How is it that guns can be ID locked, but nobody else in the entire world is smart enough to just make guns from scratch?

Stealth camo was outdated tech in mgs4, the robo cows could see through it

But isn't Big Boss known as the most dangerous terrorist in the world? i mean, the whole world wants him dead.

could you imagine a clone of Bin Laden becoming the President of the US?

In Snake's defense, he probably didn't have TV while exiling himself in Alaska.

Maybe if he shaved his beard no one would recognise him.

Like I said, BOTH. Snake could just switch to Octo camo. Ever play mgs4 with both? You're like a ghost.

No, why do you think that?

No one considered him a terrorist. It was just zero and the patriots yapping on about big boss ditching them.He was still known as the best soldier that ever lived and had heaps of praise from everyone even in MGS1

So his clone son being president isn't a strict

he actually did. he drunk himself to sleep while watching National Geographic bascially. thats whats stated in the official canon.

well, maybe because thats LITERALLY what is being said during MGSV? plus the whole nuclear deterrence thing.

Does the public actually know that Big Boss was behind Outer Heaven and Zanzibar Land? Do people even know that those incidents happened?

It's hard to know since MGS doesn't expand much upon its universe and we only ever see things from the perspective of operatives

Wouldn't snake get too warm with both? Also how's he going to carry both

Yes I know snake can somehow carry a good 50 weapons up his ass but canonically he arrives in the middle east wearing octocamo with just an AK he ditches and a couple of handguns

Yeah only by zero and skullface. No one else cared he has his own private offshore rig.
Nuclear inspections never happened as it was a ruse by skullface.

Can't believe nu/v/ thinks we ever didn't like MGS

I'm sure you could cook up some technobabble reason like stealth camo doesn't jive with octocamo fibers or whatever

stealth camo is just this device here so...

He shoves it up his ass.

>there is some foreshadowing to it if you actually look for it, like the famous dialogue between BB and Solid on the graveyard
lol
youtube.com/watch?v=zZ6OF6gaFi0

If the Patriots were an A.I. then how did Raiden get captured and experimented on? And how did infant Ocelot get kidnapped from The Boss?

Boss woke up years before Venom Snake.

its really like you didnt play the games

I don't get people bitching about chapter 3, when chapter 2 barely existed on its own. You'd think people would demand for a proper chapter 2 first.

It's like your moms a whore

It doesn't make sense that they had Hayter play Snake when they could have used Kiefer all along. He was quite amazing in MGSV, albeit underutilized.

i dont get the joke. The Venom ruse happened due to hypnotherapy, not nano machines.

Even though the Patriots are an AI they still have a lot of power and money.
Not only do they have soldiers working for them (and arguably the US military army) but they also have control of several PMC groups.

Akagi pls
pls

>No one considered him a terrorist.
Kind of hard to believe that when the intro for MG2 states clearly that Zanzibar Land was invading countries, stealing their nuclear weapon facilities and pretty much becoming the biggest nuclear powerhouse in the world
Oh and they kidnapped a scientist who invented a bacteria that produces UNLIMITED OIL.
Big Boss is the top asshole of the world.

The point is that it's very very clear the venom twist was not planned until MGSV started development