How do we fix McCree?

How do we fix McCree?

Not only is Blizzard completely incapable of balancing him properly, but quite literally the entire metagame seems to revolve around whether he's good or not.

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Leave him alone for a bit, he's been changed so many times since release

He's in the most balanced state he's been so far

>Not a braindead tank buster now

>Not a useless cowboy now when FTH was nerfed

>Not Widowmaker 2.0 now when left click was buffed

I think the reason why he's used so much is because he works incredibly well with Zenyatta's discord orb AND Soldier 76's bullshit nerf pretty much secured McCree as the mid-range hero

So what should Blizzard do?

>Undo Soldier 76 nerf
>Reduce Zenyatta's Discord Orb from a 50% increase to like 35-40% increase

If Blizzard does changes like this and McCree is still used incredibly often, THEN we can look for changes to McCree

>revolve around

If you're going to nerf Zen's discord orb you might as well buff Mercy's attack boost.

>He's in the most balanced state he's been so far
>Used on 90% of competitive teams
Yeah nah. He was balanced before the last completely out of the blue buff.

>Drunk as fuck.
>Blind firing corners like I'm some kind of Hanzo main.
>Getting 60-100s.
>Sneak up behind the team.
>Zarya ult
>ITS HIGH POTG

He's pretty effortless. He will make you hate roadhogs, but which dps doesn't hate him?

Revert him back to how he was at launch and then add a 4.5 second cooldown to fan.

Literally the only problem was that doublefan could kill tanks, meaning he could kill everyone. Get rid of doublefan and he's no problem while also staying in his intended niche.

It's been like two months, why are you talking like TF2 players talking about balancing?

his hammer fan is so useless. You're better off just left-clicking everything.

They could just change fan the hammer to hold down right-click and allow you to cancel it by releasing it.

He's not really a big deal on console...

>consoles

Why'd you even bother to reply?

Have to say I usually feel outplayed when I get fucked by a Mcree.

Now as for Genji I'm thoroughly just sick of him because of the mixture of Ana ults and everytime one is on my team he somehow has full on downs.

He's fine now

I agree I think it's best to wait.

Yea but top tier Genjis are imposible to fucking kill.

Good fucking luck finding one playing for your team though.

Console Lives Matter

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>try to counter a good genji with roadhog
>literally deflects all of my hooks

Stop letting him use 21122 to tick his command grab.

Shits fucked.

Wait wrong cowboy.

Err....stun + hammerfan upclose is a kill on half the cast, plus you auto reload when rolling so you can do 2x hammerfans on a stunned enemy.

Stay midrange, roll left or right to dodge hook. Flashbang AFTER HOOK. Every shot has to be a headshot before and after flashbang, Roadhog is an easy kill for mccree. A good Roadhog though will only camp certain corners and make it nigh impossible to dodge his hook though so you're just better off waiting for him to grab someone else and you can flashbang to save them.

>stun+ha--
>enemy moves away and all your shots miss
only works on fat targets and why their team would allow you to get that close is another story

this is a good post

Thank you.

On console, the only two heroes that get really annoying are great Lucios and Genjis, but for different reasons.

For Lucio, a good one can fucking flee so fast that it's nearly impossible to get a good amount of damage, especially when he can heal it all back up and wall-ride away.

For Genji, it's the super high skill cap. A good Genji can be all over the fucking place nonstop and our little thumb-sticks aren't precise enough to track his bullshit.

Fuck McCree

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I hate Roadhog no matter what I'm playing.

set the clock to 11:59 and keep it there

Didn't he just get his range pulled back to 25 meters a month ago? What else do you people want?

Wait things to stabilize, we've seen a couple of successful Pharah/Mercy combos in pro matches despite McCree being played. So folks are still learning to play around him. Now 76 needs to fill some other niche though since McCree effectively stole his role.

76 is the most balanced character in the game. He doesn't need buffs or nerfs.

for you

Id rather deal with cowboy man of long range any day over playing against genjis

>roll left or right to dodge hook

lel, if roadie hooks anywhere near you you get hooked

I got hooked on the upper part of nepal koth, above the hill, by a roadhog who was on the opposite side of the point, on the bottom. I literally was dragged along the upper wall by his hook and shot all the way around until I landed right in front of him. I was not lagging in the slightest

they really need to fix his hook, road's my 3rd most played and even I'll admit it's complete bullshit. You just shouldn't be able to hook people around corners and drag them, it's a fucking hook. It should pull in a straight line.

You fucking cunt

>successful Pharah/Mercy combos in pro matches despite McCree being played
Sounds like mccrees who can't aim.

they pointlessly increased the time it takes for his spread to go back to normal. They need to revert the spread increase, there was no reason for it and as long as mcree exists soldier really doesn't have a reason to

sure soldier's got longer range than mcree; what's that matter when your spread becomes a complete joke after shooting for about two seconds, and doesn't go back to normal for another second or two?

I can fairly consistently kill tracers/200HP characters with flash and fan after they increased fan's firing speed.

>stun+ aim for head + punch
you just saved 5 bullets

Every time I see some fucker play genji on defense I die a little more inside. On top of that it's always those shitters that refuse to switch when someone on the enemy team counter picks.

>Widowmaker and Ana
>on capture the objective

>not wanting to Nano Boost your team's Reindhardt/Genji for an instant rapefest into an easy capture

>having a sniper who can't aim and the rest of your team assuming that you don't need another healer

Shiggy diggy user.

IIRC the whole reason they did that was because of people macroing for no recoil

THE IRIS EMBRACES YOU

In pro matches, can you read?

>if they put mlg in front of their name then it means they're super pro